Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:43:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even slight removal

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-11 Thread Philipp Kern
Chow, am Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800 hast du folgendes geschrieben: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even slight removal commands), which allow him to do the most of packaging

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-11 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Chow, am Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800 hast du folgendes geschrieben: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org (11/06/2013): On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: I said random, not deterministic. Giving back until a certain test succeeds, for instance. Because some bad code triggers a segfault on almost every try except that it sometimes

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-11 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:10:53AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org (11/06/2013): On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:29:33AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: I said random, not deterministic. Giving back until a certain test succeeds, for instance. Because some bad code

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-11 Thread Wookey
+++ Matthias Klumpp [2013-06-07 23:50 +0200]: 2013/6/7 Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no: ]] Nicolas Dandrimont The accepted by DSA part is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even packaged, and, when it came up, I

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-10 Thread Anton Gladky
Thanks all for opinions! From my point of view, this tool will not be used (hopefully) too often, but sometimes it is really necessary to try it out before uploading a new source version. On 06/09/2013 08:44 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I have very mixed feelings about this. I do in general think

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-10 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi, On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even slight removal commands), which allow him to do the most of packaging work without worrying other teams/developers. And, of course, those tools should

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-10 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:43:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and even slight removal commands), which allow him to do the most of packaging work without

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: Dear all, I have a proposal to give a permission to all DDs to restart builds on failing archs e.g. execute gb-command. I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the built failed accidentally and needs to

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13234 March 1977, Philipp Kern wrote: Which begs the question if build management should be merged into dak to provide insight about which package is new. Obviously this could also be a defined interface but if we're going to start to reuse dak's interfaces for that... maybe not. Only in

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-06-06 21:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Well, I don't think adding more kruft to dak is a great idea (I mean, if it has to happen, it has to happen), but this really shows that we need a unified way of passing machine-readable messages between services. Let's see how the GSoC project

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-07 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
* Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org [2013-06-07 12:26:37 +0200]: On 2013-06-06 21:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Well, I don't think adding more kruft to dak is a great idea (I mean, if it has to happen, it has to happen), but this really shows that we need a unified way of passing machine-readable

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Nicolas Dandrimont The accepted by DSA part is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even packaged, and, when it came up, I felt that the reception of the idea of using fedmsg was a bit lukewarm. I think we should be

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-07 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2013/6/7 Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no: ]] Nicolas Dandrimont The accepted by DSA part is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even packaged, and, when it came up, I felt that the reception of the idea of using fedmsg

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the built failed accidentally and needs to be restarted, or it requires some fixing and uploading new version. It will save time for both DDs and wb-team. Generally

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 06.06.2013, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Philipp Kern: On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the built failed accidentally and needs to be restarted, or it requires some fixing and

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-06 Thread Anton Gladky
2013/6/6 Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org: [..] Can this be done using dcut files, just as with other DPA management commands? That would be fine. Anton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-06-06 12:40, Joachim Breitner wrote: if the DPAs get wanna-build support (which I hope) you certainly don’t want to handle nmu and gb requests for every developer’s pet repositories, so there will be a need for a general interface. Can this be done using dcut files, just as with other

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:31:12PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2013-06-06 12:40, Joachim Breitner wrote: Which begs the question if build management should be merged into dak to provide insight about which package is new. Obviously this could also be a defined interface but if we're going to

Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-05 Thread Anton Gladky
Dear all, I have a proposal to give a permission to all DDs to restart builds on failing archs e.g. execute gb-command. I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the built failed accidentally and needs to be restarted, or it requires some fixing and uploading new version.

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute gb-command

2013-06-05 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 05.06.2013, 21:10 +0200 schrieb Anton Gladky: Dear all, I have a proposal to give a permission to all DDs to restart builds on failing archs e.g. execute gb-command. I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the built failed accidentally and needs