Re: net-tools maintenance status
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: There are a few bugs open, marked as help needed it would be nice if anybody would help with those, instead of ranting. Of course that would be nice, but it's not an answer to my question. Also, more than two years ago I did write code to solve the IPv4/IPv6 truncation issue. However, you (kinda) rejected it with a vague comment and refused to tell me in what way it should be improved. I'd rather not work on other bugs if there's a chance the work gets ignored again. Finally, last month, the IPv4 part of the bug got fixed. I had multiple persons offering to take over the project and nobody contributed any work before. And? I actually have two new people supporting my in the project (upstream) and i am quite responsive to them. Because they help. That's nice to hear. Besides that, my plan is to have an 1.65 upstream release which is basically the Debian version (since that version is quite ok, must of the open bugs Isn't that the same plan as two years ago? are kernel/technology related. As you can read in the archives the last few attempts to help me with those ended with the inresponsiveness of net developers (those consider net-tools obsolted by iproute). Please CC me, I'm not in the list. Greetings, Olaf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Aug 2, 2005 6:45 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: A lot older than a year, 17 with patch a lot even without a single response. Hi list, I'm sorry to ask again, but: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Is there any chance Lenny will ship with for example working IPv6 support in netstat? I emailed MIA about this, but MIA went MIA itself, no response anymore. :( The bug count is up to 112. Only two NMU translation uploads have been done in the past two years. No other uploads at all. Please CC me, I'm not subscribed. Greetings, Olaf http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=net-tools http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:24:58PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: I'm sorry to ask again, but: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Is there any chance Lenny will ship with for example working IPv6 support in netstat? I emailed MIA about this, but MIA went MIA itself, no response anymore. :( The bug count is up to 112. Only two NMU translation uploads have been done in the past two years. No other uploads at all. Hm, looks bad indeed. I'll try to see if Bernd Eckenfels is still alive but if I can't reach him in a week I'll adopt the package. -- Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards, Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: net-tools maintenance status
Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sorry to ask again, but: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Looking at the changelog in unstable, pretty much the same as last time you wrote, aside from the two minor NMUs you mentioned. Is there any chance Lenny will ship with for example working IPv6 support in netstat? I emailed MIA about this, but MIA went MIA itself, no response anymore. :( The bug count is up to 112. Only two NMU translation uploads have been done in the past two years. No other uploads at all. Maybe time for a hijack of the package, or at least an NMU to get the bugs fixed. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpyzgmnwpnV5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bug count is up to 112. Only two NMU translation uploads have been done in the past two years. No other uploads at all. Maybe time for a hijack of the package, or at least an NMU to get the bugs fixed. I'm not a DD, so I can't really do that myself. I'm willing to help on the C coding though. Olaf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Dec 1, 2007 5:53 PM, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:52:41PM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: Hm, looks bad indeed. I'll try to see if Bernd Eckenfels is still alive but if I can't reach him in a week I'll adopt the package. Sure I am alive. That's very nice to hear. May I ask what your plans with the net-tools package are? Olaf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:52:41PM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: Hm, looks bad indeed. I'll try to see if Bernd Eckenfels is still alive but if I can't reach him in a week I'll adopt the package. Sure I am alive. Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:52:41PM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: Hm, looks bad indeed. I'll try to see if Bernd Eckenfels is still alive but if I can't reach him in a week I'll adopt the package. Sure I am alive. And... active? Would you care to share your plans for net-tools for the next month, for Lenny, and beyond? Would you be willing to let guus and Olaf co-maintain the package, or take it over completely? There are quite a lot of issues with net-tools, and this is not the first time Olaf has asked you what is happening. Please could you show the simple courtesy of actually addressing his concerns, rather than ignoring them, which is pretty rude. You have not made an upload in nearly two years. People clearly have problems with it, and it would be great to know what you are intending to do to rectify them. IMO guus and Olaf would be completely justified in hijacking it and co-maintaining it themselves (and for the record, I would be willing to review and sponsor uploads if needed). Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgp6vvDeEIFKO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 08:55:46PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: Would you be willing to let guus and Olaf co-maintain the package, or take it over completely? There are a few bugs open, marked as help needed it would be nice if anybody would help with those, instead of ranting. I had multiple persons offering to take over the project and nobody contributed any work before. I actually have two new people supporting my in the project (upstream) and i am quite responsive to them. Because they help. Besides that, my plan is to have an 1.65 upstream release which is basically the Debian version (since that version is quite ok, must of the open bugs are kernel/technology related. As you can read in the archives the last few attempts to help me with those ended with the inresponsiveness of net developers (those consider net-tools obsolted by iproute). Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. )[EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://www.eckes.org/ o--o 1024D/E383CD7E [EMAIL PROTECTED] v:+497211603874 f:+49721151516129 (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
Hi, On 4/6/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, On 4/5/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I will be able to apply for co-maint, but I started working a little on triaging. Hope it helps. I've spent a lot of hours working on net-tools bugs, 17 of them if I don't miss anything. I usertagged them, so if any other is working on it can see what I've done so far: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]tag=working-on-it Are your updates available from somewhere? Although Bernd claims to be maintaining the package, his last upload was in 2005.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 4/6/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm copying Olaf, since he asked for it in the OP, and Bernd, since he's the maintainer. Thanks. On 4/3/07, Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 02:09:00PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Are you applying for co-maintenance? If so, you should rather talk the Not really, although I wouldn't mind working on some of the bugs, especially the one for showing IPv6 addresses. the package maintainer, I think. Alternatively, you could do some bug Well, that's part of the problem, he's basically MIA and doesn't (want to) talk about bugs. triaging and/or trying to reproduce the older bugs, if you haven't done so already. I don't want to do that before there's someone to at least discuss solutions / patches with.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
Hi again, On 4/5/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I will be able to apply for co-maint, but I started working a little on triaging. Hope it helps. I've spent a lot of hours working on net-tools bugs, 17 of them if I don't miss anything. I usertagged them, so if any other is working on it can see what I've done so far: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]tag=working-on-it -- Martín Ferrari
Re: net-tools maintenance status
Good Work. Especially to risolve and delete very older bugs. There are more than one bug opened 4 year ago, for example. If want to have some help, especially for testing and/or coding, I'm available. Happy Easter to anybody all! Cheers Cesare On 4/6/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, On 4/5/07, Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I will be able to apply for co-maint, but I started working a little on triaging. Hope it helps. I've spent a lot of hours working on net-tools bugs, 17 of them if I don't miss anything. I usertagged them, so if any other is working on it can see what I've done so far: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]tag=working-on-it -- Martín Ferrari
Re: net-tools maintenance status
please make sure to work with the latest cvs version from berlios. Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:32:27AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Well, that's part of the problem, he's basically MIA and doesn't (want to) talk about bugs. thats not true, i will discuss about all bugs, especially those which are tagged help needed. I just dont talk with ppl who dont help me. Gruss Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. )[EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://www.eckes.org/ o--o 1024D/E383CD7E [EMAIL PROTECTED] v:+497211603874 f:+49721151516129 (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 4/6/07, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:32:27AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Well, that's part of the problem, he's basically MIA and doesn't (want to) talk about bugs. thats not true, You're not basically MIA? How do you explain the lack of uploads and new upstream versions then? i will discuss about all bugs, especially those which are tagged help needed. I just dont talk with ppl who dont help me. I wrote an entire patch... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
I'm copying Olaf, since he asked for it in the OP, and Bernd, since he's the maintainer. On 4/3/07, Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 02:09:00PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Are you applying for co-maintenance? If so, you should rather talk the the package maintainer, I think. Alternatively, you could do some bug triaging and/or trying to reproduce the older bugs, if you haven't done so already. I don't know if I will be able to apply for co-maint, but I started working a little on triaging. Hope it helps. -- Martín Ferrari
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) Minor bugs - outstanding (9 bugs) Wishlist items - outstanding (32 bugs) A lot older than a year, 17 with patch a lot even without a single response. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=net-tools http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Hi again, I'm sorry to bump this so soon, as it's only less than two years since I send the original mail. There are now 107 bugs, a lot older than three years, 18 with a patch and a lot without any response. Also, there hasn't been a single upload in 2006 and 2007. Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 02:09:00PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? Are you applying for co-maintenance? If so, you should rather talk the the package maintainer, I think. Alternatively, you could do some bug triaging and/or trying to reproduce the older bugs, if you haven't done so already. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 3/9/06, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/6/06, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all to NMU's. yes, but please not for wishlist bugs. Again: there are bugs open for net-tools where help is requested, I would love to have patches for those. Generally I am not aware of time critical bugs. The wishlist bugs will get fixed in the next upstream version, however that needs some sorting out of the upstream cvs which is not in sync with redhat, suse and debian. Hi Bernd, What's the status of the next upstream version? Do you think it'll be ready before Etch? Hi again, Bernd, Could you answer the question, please? I'd like netstat to have proper IPv4 support. Greetings, Olaf
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 1/6/06, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all to NMU's. yes, but please not for wishlist bugs. Again: there are bugs open for net-tools where help is requested, I would love to have patches for those. Generally I am not aware of time critical bugs. The wishlist bugs will get fixed in the next upstream version, however that needs some sorting out of the upstream cvs which is not in sync with redhat, suse and debian. Hi Bernd, What's the status of the next upstream version? Do you think it'll be ready before Etch?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 12/30/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/22/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:03:47PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Bernd? I dont like the prposed solution, i am looking for a more generic one. The Thanks for the response. In what way would you like it to be more generic? pressing problem is to display IPV6 netstat on 80char widt correctly without truncation (#254243). That's not possible without dropping entire columns. I guess this will require some changes to the output formatter, anyway. I think i will add a non-formatting/non-truncating scritable output instead of the wide switch, and make netstat on tty observ cols. The question is, what size to use on non-tty output. Bernd? Bernd? Hi Bernd, Could you please respond to this issue? Thanks Olaf
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 1/6/06, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 05:03:39PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 12/30/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/22/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:03:47PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Bernd? I dont like the prposed solution, i am looking for a more generic one. The Thanks for the response. In what way would you like it to be more generic? pressing problem is to display IPV6 netstat on 80char widt correctly without truncation (#254243). That's not possible without dropping entire columns. I guess this will require some changes to the output formatter, anyway. I think i will add a non-formatting/non-truncating scritable output instead of the wide switch, and make netstat on tty observ cols. The question is, what size to use on non-tty output. Bernd? Bernd? Hi Bernd, Could you please respond to this issue? the last question in this thread was from me. Really? Thanks for the response. In what way would you like it to be more generic? That's not possible without dropping entire columns.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 05:03:39PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 12/30/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/22/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:03:47PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Bernd? I dont like the prposed solution, i am looking for a more generic one. The Thanks for the response. In what way would you like it to be more generic? pressing problem is to display IPV6 netstat on 80char widt correctly without truncation (#254243). That's not possible without dropping entire columns. I guess this will require some changes to the output formatter, anyway. I think i will add a non-formatting/non-truncating scritable output instead of the wide switch, and make netstat on tty observ cols. The question is, what size to use on non-tty output. Bernd? Bernd? Hi Bernd, Could you please respond to this issue? the last question in this thread was from me. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Fri, January 6, 2006 17:03, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi Bernd, Could you please respond to this issue? Hello Olaf, Could you please stop this? You've been asking about this for many times now and appearently with no result, so it should occur to you that this stragegy does not work. If you look at Bernd's packages overview (http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ecki) you can see that many of his packages are NMU'ed very regularly. So appearently he doesn't mind that. You could prepare an NMU for the bugs you deem important and upload it to the delayed queue. bye, Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 1/6/06, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, January 6, 2006 17:03, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi Bernd, Could you please respond to this issue? Hello Olaf, Could you please stop this? You've been asking about this for many times I'd prefer to, but that doesn't look like a solution. now and appearently with no result, so it should occur to you that this stragegy does not work. It does appear to result in some response, but with weeks/months separation between each one it's a bit 'slow'. If you look at Bernd's packages overview (http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ecki) you can see that many of Which column shows that? his packages are NMU'ed very regularly. So appearently he doesn't mind that. You could prepare an NMU for the bugs you deem important and upload it to the delayed queue. It's a significant change and I'd prefer the maintainer to support the change. I also have no idea how to do an NMU and I think NMUs are not the right solution to this problem.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Fri, January 6, 2006 18:25, Olaf van der Spek wrote: If you look at Bernd's packages overview (http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ecki) you can see that many of Which column shows that? It isn't one specific column, but from the overview and with some clicking around I can make the following observations about Bernd's packages. adns - from 2002 until last December no MU's and a couple of NMU's cadaver - current version in testing is NMU from last July ircii - no NMU's libnetwork-ipv4addr-perl - no mu's since the nmu from 2003, no MU's since 2000 memstat - no NMU's (no uploads at all since 2002) mkrboot - sarge contains NMU from 2003 mmv - no MU since 2001, 2 unacked NMU's in August net-acct - no NMU's (no uploads at all since 2004) net-tools - had an occasional NMU symlinks - last MU in 2000, NMU's in 2003 and 2005 unacked transproxy - no NMU's (no uploads at all since 2003) So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all to NMU's. Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all to NMU's. yes, but please not for wishlist bugs. Again: there are bugs open for net-tools where help is requested, I would love to have patches for those. Generally I am not aware of time critical bugs. The wishlist bugs will get fixed in the next upstream version, however that needs some sorting out of the upstream cvs which is not in sync with redhat, suse and debian. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 1/6/06, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all to NMU's. yes, but please not for wishlist bugs. Again: there are bugs open for net-tools where help is requested, I would love to have patches for those. Generally I am not aware of time critical bugs. The wishlist bugs will get fixed in the next upstream version, however that Some? All? And when can that next upstream version be expected (as far as I know the last one is more than four years old). needs some sorting out of the upstream cvs which is not in sync with redhat, suse and debian.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 12/22/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/16/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:03:47PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Bernd? I dont like the prposed solution, i am looking for a more generic one. The Thanks for the response. In what way would you like it to be more generic? pressing problem is to display IPV6 netstat on 80char widt correctly without truncation (#254243). That's not possible without dropping entire columns. I guess this will require some changes to the output formatter, anyway. I think i will add a non-formatting/non-truncating scritable output instead of the wide switch, and make netstat on tty observ cols. The question is, what size to use on non-tty output. Bernd? Bernd?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 11/29/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch and a lot even without a single response. This is not true. What part isn't? Stop bothering me. Why? Most of the patches are not valid. Shouldn't the patch tag be removed and an explanation given then? Please work on the bugs which are tagged as help needed. Why would I do that while I'm waiting for the status of the patch I already wrote? Bernd?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:03:47PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Bernd? I dont like the prposed solution, i am looking for a more generic one. The pressing problem is to display IPV6 netstat on 80char widt correctly without truncation (#254243). I guess this will require some changes to the output formatter, anyway. I think i will add a non-formatting/non-truncating scritable output instead of the wide switch, and make netstat on tty observ cols. The question is, what size to use on non-tty output. Gruss Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. )[EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://www.eckes.org/ o--o 1024D/E383CD7E [EMAIL PROTECTED] v:+497211603874 f:+49721151516129 (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) Minor bugs - outstanding (9 bugs) Wishlist items - outstanding (32 bugs) A lot older than a year, 17 with patch a lot even without a single response. I emailed a patch to Bernd two months ago but I'm still waiting for a response. And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch and a lot even without a single response. I still don't have any idea what Bernd, the maintainer, thinks (himself) about my patch. Olaf
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 11/29/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch and a lot even without a single response. This is not true. What part isn't? Stop bothering me. Why? Most of the patches are not valid. Shouldn't the patch tag be removed and an explanation given then? Please work on the bugs which are tagged as help needed. Why would I do that while I'm waiting for the status of the patch I already wrote? Olaf
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch and a lot even without a single response. This is not true. Stop bothering me. Most of the patches are not valid. Please work on the bugs which are tagged as help needed. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 10/29/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:21:04PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later). What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular? There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324 there was no consensus on the patch yet, if i see that correctly. Ian Jackson did not respond to my last message, but I think you're the one that has to decide as you're the (upstream) maintainer. Bernd? Bernd?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 01:48:27PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 10/29/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:21:04PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later).What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular?There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324 there was no consensus on the patch yet, if i see that correctly. Ian Jackson did not respond to my last message, but I think you're the one that has to decide as you're the (upstream) maintainer. Bernd? Bernd? any chance you could get quoting right? this message is totally unreadable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11/10/05, Christoph Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any chance you could get quoting right? this message is totally unreadable. Maybe it's caused by lack of support for UTF-8?
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* Christoph Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-10 13:51:57 +0100]: any chance you could get quoting right? this message is totally unreadable. Came through just fine on my end. -- mithrandi, i Ainil en-Balandor, a faer Ambar signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 10/25/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:21:04PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later). What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular? There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324 there was no consensus on the patch yet, if i see that correctly. Ian Jackson did not respond to my last message, but I think you're the one that has to decide as you're the (upstream) maintainer. Bernd?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 10/24/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:21:04PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later). What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular? There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324 there was no consensus on the patch yet, if i see that correctly. Ian Jackson did not respond to my last message, but I think you're the one that has to decide as you're the (upstream) maintainer.
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) Minor bugs - outstanding (9 bugs) Wishlist items - outstanding (32 bugs) A lot older than a year, 17 with patch a lot even without a single response. I emailed a patch to Bernd two months ago but I'm still waiting for a response. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=net-tools http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later). What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular? There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 02:21:04PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: I'm afraid I have to ask the same question again (three months later). What's the status of this package in general and my patch in particular? There was some discussion about it, but nothing really happened. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324 there was no consensus on the patch yet, if i see that correctly. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/11/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/11/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Just one more question: what happened to my original emails? I read them. Most likely I saved the wrong one for further processing. Thats why it is a good idea to copy the bug report. Sorry for your double work. Thanks, I'll keep them in mind. When can the patch be expected in unstable? Eh, bump, please?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Eh, bump, please? http://net-tools.berlios.de Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 9/9/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Eh, bump, please? http://net-tools.berlios.de Planned: new release 1.65 which contains all the debian patches. Use of some netdev features. Great, but when?
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Bump. On 8/6/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Didn't I (also) send you a much later version? Hmm.. I cant find that, but yes I thin u did. Can you dig that up? Sure: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324msg=19 Just one more question: what happened to my original emails?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Just one more question: what happened to my original emails? I read them. Most likely I saved the wrong one for further processing. Thats why it is a good idea to copy the bug report. Sorry for your double work. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/11/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:23:12AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Just one more question: what happened to my original emails? I read them. Most likely I saved the wrong one for further processing. Thats why it is a good idea to copy the bug report. Sorry for your double work. Thanks, I'll keep them in mind. When can the patch be expected in unstable?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 8/6/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Didn't I (also) send you a much later version? Hmm.. I cant find that, but yes I thin u did. Can you dig that up? Sure: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222324msg=19 Just one more question: what happened to my original emails?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On 8/2/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? The one for --wide Did you find it already?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Friday, August 05, 2005 3:42 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? The one for --wide Did you find it already? Any particular reason you didn't mail it to #222324? (I'm assuming that's the bug you're referring to; it's the only open bug against net-tools that mentions --wide, and neither of the bugs you've reported contain a patch) Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/5/05, Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, August 05, 2005 3:42 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? The one for --wide Did you find it already? Any particular reason you didn't mail it to #222324? (I'm assuming that's No (or can't remember). Maybe because it's quite a big change and I didn't have the final version ready the first time I mailed it (and I didn't want to 'flood' that bug. the bug you're referring to; it's the only open bug against net-tools that mentions --wide, and neither of the bugs you've reported contain a patch) Yes, it's about that bug.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Yes, it's about that bug. I have attached it to the bug. Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/5/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Yes, it's about that bug. I have attached it to the bug. Thanks. But: It's not ready yet, but what do you think of it?
Re: net-tools maintenance status
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have attached it to the bug. Thanks. But: It's not ready yet, but what do you think of it? It is not ready yet :) No seriously I think the idea with having the column width in *_width is fine. I would add a calculation of it based on COLUMS if and only if COLUMNS is 80 and --wide is given. I am not sure how to react if output is not a tty. One option is to always asume a very wide line, the other is to stick with columns. For beeing compatible with parsing scripts I think the output without wide option should not change (however I think everybody who is arsing netstat output is insane) Bernd PS: please use unified diffs -u, better readable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/5/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have attached it to the bug. Thanks. But: It's not ready yet, but what do you think of it? It is not ready yet :) Didn't I (also) send you a much later version? No seriously I think the idea with having the column width in *_width is fine. I would add a calculation of it based on COLUMS if and only if COLUMNS is 80 and --wide is given. I am not sure how to react if output is not a tty. One option is to always asume a very wide line, the other is to stick with columns. For beeing compatible with parsing scripts I think the output without wide option should not change (however I think everybody who is arsing netstat output is insane) The later version auto-sets the wide option if there's a tty and detects the width of the tty.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Didn't I (also) send you a much later version? Hmm.. I cant find that, but yes I thin u did. Can you dig that up? Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
net-tools maintenance status
Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) Minor bugs - outstanding (9 bugs) Wishlist items - outstanding (32 bugs) A lot older than a year, 17 with patch a lot even without a single response. I emailed a patch to Bernd two months ago but I'm still waiting for a response. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=net-tools http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html
Re: net-tools maintenance status
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. )[EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://www.eckes.org/ o--o 1024D/E383CD7E [EMAIL PROTECTED] v:+497211603874 f:+49721151516129 (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/2/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? The one for --wide
