Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Jes Sorensen
Matthew == Matthew Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:51:30AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: Then let's see some acts. We (lkml) are not the ones with the percieved problem, or the ones discussing it. Matthew Actually, there are some legitimate problems with some of

Bug#278887: marked as done (does not include megaraid2 module on initrd, which makes booting fail after debian install on several Dell machines)

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#284230: marked as done (megaraid2 issue)

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#299055: marked as done (megaraid2/megaraid initrd problem on Dell PowerEdge 1850)

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread David Schmitt
On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:25, Jes Sorensen wrote: [snip] I got it from Alteon under a written agreement stating I could distribute the image under the GPL. Since the firmware is simply data to Linux, hence keeping it under the GPL should be just fine. Then I would like to exercise my right

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 10:04 +0200, David Schmitt a crit : Then I would like to exercise my right under the GPL to aquire the source code for the firmware (and the required compilers, starting with genfw.c which is mentioned in acenic_firmware.h) since - as far as I know - firmware is

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people said that _they_ weren't going to do it, but if you want to then go

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 à 10:04 +0200, David Schmitt a écrit : Then I would like to exercise my right under the GPL to aquire the source code for the firmware (and the required compilers, starting with genfw.c which is

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 10:32 +0200, Olivier Galibert a crit : On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 10:04 +0200, David Schmitt a crit : Then I would like to exercise my right under the GPL to aquire the source code for the firmware

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Jeff Garzik
Eric W. Biederman wrote: Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people said that _they_ weren't going to do it, but if you

Bug#291386: creates initrd that cannot use lvm2 volumes if both lvm2 and lvm10 are installed

2005-04-07 Thread Eric Deplagne
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:28:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: tags 291386 unreproducible moreinfo thanks Hi Eric, I've tried to pin down this bug, but I find that the current version of initrd-tools builds correct (matching) initrds whether or not the lvm10 package is installed. Is it

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:34:56AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is not the common case. Or to support advanced features which can be disabled. TSO firmware is commonly used these days.

Is there a serious NPTL problem with sarge?

2005-04-07 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, a colleague observed crashes in some heavily multi-threaded Python applications. He is running Debian sarge with stock kernel 2.6.8-2-686. Using LD_ASSUME_KERNEL fixes the crash, so it seems to be an NPTL issue. (Maybe stupid) questions: - Is it relevant, whether Python is compiled on a

Bug#303547: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp: MEGARAID_NEWGEN wanted

2005-04-07 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
Package: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp Severity: wishlist Why it is not included? I compiled kernel 2.6.9 and 2.6.10 with this dirtier: CONFIG_MEGARAID_NEWGEN=y CONFIG_MEGARAID_MM=y CONFIG_MEGARAID_MAILBOX=y for LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID 520 SCSI 320-1 Controller It is working on

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people

Bug#303550: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686: irq11 makes eth0 problems

2005-04-07 Thread Philippe BOURCIER
Package: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 Version: 2.6.11-2 Severity: normal hi all, my network is not operational ; i did'nt had such problem with 2.6.10 I go back to 2.4 because i have also burning timeout problems with 2.6.10. here is the corresponding /var/log/kern.log: Apr 6 19:54:47 ile

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
David Schmitt wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:25, Jes Sorensen wrote: [snip] I got it from Alteon under a written agreement stating I could distribute the image under the GPL. Since the firmware is simply data to Linux, hence keeping it under the GPL should be just fine. Then I would

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Humberto Massa wrote: David Schmitt wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:25, Jes Sorensen wrote: [snip] I got it from Alteon under a written agreement stating I could distribute the image under the GPL. Since the firmware is simply data to Linux, hence keeping it under the GPL

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread John Stoffel
Richard == Richard B Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Last time I checked, GPL was about SOFTware, not FIRMware, Richard and not MICROcode. Oh be real, there's no real difference between them and you know it. It's all about where the bits are stored and what they tend to do in a

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Måns Rullgård
Richard B. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I checked, GPL was about SOFTware, not FIRMware, and not MICROcode. If somebody has decided to rename FIRMware to SOFTware, Debian has undertaken to change the meaning of a whole lot of words, including software and free. This whole

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
Richard B. Johnson wrote: Well it doesn't make any difference. If GPL has degenerated to where one can't upload microcode to a device as part of its initialization, without having the source that generated that microcode, we are in a lot of hurt. Intel isn't going to give their designs away. I

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 à 09:03 -0400, Richard B. Johnson a écrit : Well it doesn't make any difference. If GPL has degenerated to where one can't upload microcode to a device as part of its initialization, without having the source that generated that microcode, we are in a lot of hurt. Intel

Bug#294349: marked as done (kernel-image-2.6.10-1-686: Unable to mount USB2.0 drives with default .config)

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:36:52 +0200 (CEST) with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Solved in 2.6.11 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your

Bug#303569: please include CONFIG_SOUND_AWE32_SYNTH in kernel config

2005-04-07 Thread David Madore
Package: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 Version: 2.6.8-13 The configuration of the stock Debian kernels does not include CONFIG_SOUND_AWE32_SYNTH. It should. Not all SB AWE32 sound cards work with ALSA (cf. a post which I recently made to the alsa-user mailing-list, which will be available as soon as

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
Oliver Neukum wrote: As this has been discussed numerous times and consensus never achieved and is unlikely to be achieved, I suggest that you keep this discussion internal to Debian until at least you have patches which can be evaluated and discussed. Until then Debian may do to its kernel

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 16:30 schrieb Humberto Massa: I don't recall anyone asking Intel to give theirs designs away. This thread is about: 1. (mainly) some firmware hexdumps present in the kernel source tree are either expicitly marked as being GPL'd or unmarked, in which case one

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 17:01 schrieb Humberto Massa: Oliver Neukum wrote: As this has been discussed numerous times and consensus never achieved and is unlikely to be achieved, I suggest that you keep this discussion internal to Debian until at least you have patches which

Re: Bug#282793: Closing PowerEdge 1850/megaraid2 initrd-tools bugs

2005-04-07 Thread Timo Veith
Am Donnerstag 07 April 2005 09:37 schrieb Loïc Minier: Hi, Yesterday, I successfully installed a PowerEdge 1850 server with megaraid2 (the same type of machine I described in #299055) with Debian Installer RC 3. This was to be expected as I couldn't reproduce the initrd problems

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is not the common case. Or to support advanced features which can be

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:46:27AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is

Bug#303640: kernel-image-2.6.8-10-amd64-k8: Xfree86 fails to find a VESA chipset

2005-04-07 Thread David Robin
Subject: kernel-image-2.6.8-10-amd64-k8: Xfree86 fails to find a VESA chipset Package: kernel-image-2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 Version: 2.6.8-11 Severity: important *** Please type your report below this line *** Hi, I just installed Debian testing on a new Athlon64/nForce4 machine. This machine boots

Re: Is there a serious NPTL problem with sarge?

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[W. Borgert] - Is it relevant, whether Python is compiled on a system with 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? If so, how can I find out on which kernel the Debian package has been built? Might or might not be relevant - depends on whether the python build scripts attempt to detect the kernel

Bug#296963: Also applies to 2.6.8-2-k7, 2.6.11-1-k7

2005-04-07 Thread Luca Corti
Package: kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7 Version: 2.6.10-6 Followup-For: Bug #296963 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 clone 296963 -1 -2 reassign -1 kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 reassign -2 kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7 merge 296963 -1 -2 thanks I've tested this on k-i-2.6.8-2-k7 and

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 04:05:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 04 avril 2005 à 21:32 +0200, Adrian Bunk a écrit : On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:05:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 04, Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if we don't want to do so? I know I personally

Bug#270376: PCMCIA Nic stops working after upgrading to 2.6.6/7/8

2005-04-07 Thread Daniel Ritz
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 08:56, Jefferson Cowart wrote: Sorry for the delay in sending this. I ended up getting back later than expected. In any case the hexdumps are below. Please let me know if you need anything else. also sorry for the delay :) Under 2.6.5-bk1 ===

Bug#270376: PCMCIA Nic stops working after upgrading to 2.6.6/7/8

2005-04-07 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005, Daniel Ritz wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 08:56, Jefferson Cowart wrote: Sorry for the delay in sending this. I ended up getting back later than expected. In any case the hexdumps are below. Please let me know if you need anything else. also sorry for the delay :)

Bug#295422: e2fsprogs for Sarge

2005-04-07 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:33:53PM +0900, Horms wrote: Normally this would just be a matter of waiting for the new versions to filter down to testing, but as part of the attempts to get sarge released, testing was fozen a little while ago, so changes aren't propogating, while unstable marches

Bug#270376: PCMCIA Nic stops working after upgrading to 2.6.6/7/8

2005-04-07 Thread Jefferson Cowart
Thanks for the response. maximilian attems - Let me know when the kernel is built and I'll go ahead and try that. Thanks Jefferson Cowart [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: maximilian attems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 16:26

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:05:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:56:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... If your statement was true that Debian must take more care regarding legal risks than commercial distributions, can you explain why Debian exposes the legal risks

Bug#295422: e2fsprogs for Sarge

2005-04-07 Thread Horms
Hi Ted, thanks for your detailed reply. If you could get the bk patches and send them to this thread I will look into getting them reviewed and the package built. I will also be at LCA, so I look forward to seeing you there. Best wishes -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like you are now looking at the question of are the huge string of hex characters the preferred form for making modifications to firmware. Personally I would be surprised but those hunks are small enough it could have been written in

help: i can't reboot linux

2005-04-07 Thread cmd.exe
hello: i configure a very small kernel, compile it and install, when i reboot, it stop after print Rebooting system... i don't know what was missing from the kernel, can any body help me? linux kernel: 2.6.9 machine: IBM T23 laptop lspci: :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82830 830

Processed: tagging 291386

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.8.14 tags 291386 - unreproducible moreinfo Bug#291386: creates initrd that cannot use lvm 2 volumes if both lvm2 and lvm10 are installed Tags were: moreinfo unreproducible Tags removed:

Bug#291386: creates initrd that cannot use lvm2 volumes if both lvm2 and lvm10 are installed

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:05:31PM +0200, Eric Deplagne wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:28:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I've tried to pin down this bug, but I find that the current version of initrd-tools builds correct (matching) initrds whether or not the lvm10 package is installed. Is

Re: Bug#282793: Closing PowerEdge 1850/megaraid2 initrd-tools bugs

2005-04-07 Thread Horms
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:31:01PM +0200, Timo Veith wrote: Am Donnerstag 07 April 2005 09:37 schrieb Loïc Minier: Hi, Yesterday, I successfully installed a PowerEdge 1850 server with megaraid2 (the same type of machine I described in #299055) with Debian Installer RC 3.

Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.

2005-04-07 Thread Horms
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: [snip] Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running a build and watching bugs,

Processed: Re: Bug#296963: Also applies to 2.6.8-2-k7, 2.6.11-1-k7

2005-04-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 296963 kernel-source-2.6.8 Bug#296963: USB mouse continuously disconnecting Bug reassigned from package `kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7' to `kernel-source-2.6.8'. reassign 303652 kernel-source-2.6.8 Bug#303652: USB mouse continuously disconnecting

Bug#296963: Also applies to 2.6.8-2-k7, 2.6.11-1-k7

2005-04-07 Thread Horms
reassign 296963 kernel-source-2.6.8 reassign 303652 kernel-source-2.6.8 reassign 303653 kernel-source-2.6.8 merge 296963 303652 303653 thanks The bug almost certainly lies in the source code, which is contained in kernel-source-2.6.8, lets track it there rather than fragmenting the bug report.

Bug#295422: e2fsprogs for Sarge

2005-04-07 Thread Horms
Hi Ted, It seems that I missunderstood the preferences expressed by Steve Langasek in my discussions with him. As it turns out he feels that it would be best to get 0.37-2 ready, as 0.37-1 is currently in sarge and has been beaten upon by users quite a bit. This should mittigate most of the need