Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Francesco Poli escribe: As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is that licenses which are ok for documentation or software works are not ok

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:41:12 +0100 Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Francesco Poli escribe: As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:35:57 -0500 Evan Prodromou wrote: [...] That includes the amended revocation and attribution clauses that Francesco is concerned with; we thought they were sufficiently softened that they were not an effective prevention of licensors exercising their freedom. A

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:21:34 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] [...] I also believe that a large number of debian-legal participants have said that the DRM clause, as it stands, is free enough to allow distribution under DRM if such DRM is not effective

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 08:34:30 +0100, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. CC-* before 3.0 are non-free, CC-by 3.0 is probably ok, IIRC. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Julien Cristau escribe: CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? pgpQT25CqkVgT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Julien Cristau escribe: CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I think the same problems apply to 2.5). Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? Please make a short and clear answer. :)

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] My opinion is based on the contribution of debian-legal participants, of the workgroup participants, and of my own review of the licenses. I don't doubt that. However, that's still your opinion rather than the Workgroup's. I don't mean anything bad by that.

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Mathieu Stumpf escribe: Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? AFAIK CC-by would allow it. Please make a short and clear answer. :) Hopefully mine is. :)

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. Thank you, that's a clear answer. Now I can go ahead! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or archive maintainer, if you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the Workgroup

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2007-06-03 at 10:06 +, MJ Ray wrote: In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or archive maintainer, if you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:32:44 + Andrew Saunders wrote: On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:42:49 +0100 Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Okay, I'm planning to make some maps for stepmanie[1], but I would like to map songs that will have no legal problem to be include in Debian. I really appreciate that you thought about this aspect *before* doing all the work (that is to

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. You didn't find any final answer