Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Ben Finney wrote: This does, to my mind, permit using the mark to say ???this product supports that other product and/or service???, and doesn't need the trademark holder's permission. Whether other jurisdictions have a similar allowance, I don't know. To my knowledge this is a fairly

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:08:14PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Eion Robb e...@robbmob.com writes: There's no “fair use” in trademark law AFAIK. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trademark+law+fair+usel=1 (Leads to URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_(U.S._trademark_law)) Okay, so it seems

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one: Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox logo is not, whatever the trademark status is) The initial mail in this

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:52:22PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one: Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox logo is not,

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: The pidgin-facebookchat icons seem free (GPLv3) though. Well, that's what they claim, but what is the real status ? A wild guess is that most icons that are present in packages have been picked from the web sites (or

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
(Please don't send individual copies, we read them via the list) Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: For example, I have serious doubts about the freeness of the search engine icons in iceweasel (the ones on the top right of the UI). Those are (as far as I understand) published by the

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search provider as “an image that can be used in association with this search content”

Search provider icons in web browsers (was: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages)

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search provider as “an image that can be used in association with this

Re: Search provider icons in web browsers (was: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages)

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search

Re: Search provider icons in web browsers

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: [web browser search provider icons made available by provider]

Re: Skype/Facebook trademark logos in Debian packages

2009-11-24 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Paul Wise wrote: According to the comments in one of the URLs in the initial mail in this thread, the author of the facebook icon specifically created it for pidgin-facebookchat, so I imagine they specifically licensed it under the GPLv3 for pidgin-facebookchat folks.

Re: Search provider icons in web browsers

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:23:09AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: [web browser search