Re: Second thoughts (was Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?)

1998-12-04 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Dec 3, 1998 11:24 pm -0500 "Raul Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then again: the restriction where Troll must be able to use modified > versions of Qt in a proprietary fashion conflicts with the GPL. > > Oh well... Only if the modified version is released under the QPL. Which is

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
J.H.M. Dassen Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apperantly you seem to think otherwise. Why, in your opinion, would > having a kde-src package (similar to the qmail-src and pine-src we > already have) make Debian liable for contributory infringement? Because the licenses are different. qmail-src

Re: Second thoughts (was Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?)

1998-12-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 11:24:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Then again: the restriction where Troll must be able to use modified > versions of Qt in a proprietary fashion conflicts with the GPL. > > Oh well... It's not a requirement. -- Show me the code or get out of my way. pgpyvTd2yklIs.

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 11:20:50PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Hmm... I just noticed that 0.91 of the QPL is available, and it > looks like it might actually be compatible with the GPL. Way to > go Joseph! > > 0.91 would indeed make most of this discussion moot (I think). You must not have read

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 13:52:14 -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > You're asserting your conclusion as your argument. This gets nowhere. Raul, I'm not trying to win an argument here. I'm genuinely trying to understand your position. To the best of my knowledge, > > The conflict between KDE's and Qt's l

Second thoughts (was Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?)

1998-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Then again: the restriction where Troll must be able to use modified versions of Qt in a proprietary fashion conflicts with the GPL. Oh well... -- Raul

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Hmm... I just noticed that 0.91 of the QPL is available, and it looks like it might actually be compatible with the GPL. Way to go Joseph! 0.91 would indeed make most of this discussion moot (I think). -- Raul

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I -REALLY- want Troll Tech to make the current Qt fit under the QPL, > REALLY. Then this thread could die finally! Well, only in the sense that the current QPL draft from Troll is equivalent to the BSD license. For this thread to die Qt and KDE must have

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-04 Thread Joseph Carter
I -REALLY- want Troll Tech to make the current Qt fit under the QPL, REALLY. Then this thread could die finally! -- Show me the code or get out of my way. pgpsuGVPmNB0p.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread Raul Miller
J.H.M. Dassen Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it a problem in the case of KDE source? ... > The conflict between KDE's and Qt's license only affects the > /distribution/ of /binaries/. I can't see what would be wrong in > making it easier for our users to build KDE binaries themselves. Yo

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 12:24:06 -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I'm surprised by this paragraph -- either it's very obviously wrong or > I'm completely missing your point. I'll try responding based on what > I understand you to be saying: > > Of course we're encouraging people to use the stuff we pu

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread Raul Miller
J.H.M. Dassen Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (We're getting into the really hypothetical here, as Troll and KDE are > working to make this discussion moot, but...) In principle, yes. However, > If I understand you correctly, you're saying something like "Putting > KDE sources on a Debian FTP

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 08:15:11 -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > There's a reason for us not to distribute debian sources: contributory > infringement. (We're getting into the really hypothetical here, as Troll and KDE are working to make this discussion moot, but...) If I understand you correctly, y

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 07:04:48 -0500, Navindra Umanee wrote: > > Would it have been okay for Debian to make kde-source packages without > > fear of being sued by the debian-fear-inspiring kde or qt > > folks? J.H.M. Dassen Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, yes. See

Re: is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 07:04:48 -0500, Navindra Umanee wrote: > Would it have been okay for Debian to make kde-source packages without > fear of being sued by the debian-fear-inspiring kde or qt > folks? To the best of my knowledge, yes. See http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 for why KDE is

is kde and kde app source debian-legally distributable?

1998-12-03 Thread Navindra Umanee
Montreal Thu Dec 3 06:59:44 1998 Would it have been okay for Debian to make kde-source packages without fear of being sued by the debian-fear-inspiring kde or qt folks? Seeing that KDE source is not derived from Qt... -N.