Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Francesco Poli escribe: As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is that licenses which are ok for documentation or software works are not ok

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:41:12 +0100 Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Francesco Poli escribe: As I previously stated (in this same thread), my personal opinion on CC-v3.0 licenses is that they fail to meet the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. Maybe a big part of the problem is

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:35:57 -0500 Evan Prodromou wrote: [...] That includes the amended revocation and attribution clauses that Francesco is concerned with; we thought they were sufficiently softened that they were not an effective prevention of licensors exercising their freedom. A

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:21:34 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] [...] I also believe that a large number of debian-legal participants have said that the DRM clause, as it stands, is free enough to allow distribution under DRM if such DRM is not effective

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 08:34:30 +0100, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. CC-* before 3.0 are non-free, CC-by 3.0 is probably ok, IIRC. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Julien Cristau escribe: CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? pgpQT25CqkVgT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 9, 2007 at 13:41:35 +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Julien Cristau escribe: CC-* before 3.0 are non-free Why exactly!? See http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary (this is about 2.0, but I think the same problems apply to 2.5). Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? Please make a short and clear answer. :)

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] My opinion is based on the contribution of debian-legal participants, of the workgroup participants, and of my own review of the licenses. I don't doubt that. However, that's still your opinion rather than the Workgroup's. I don't mean anything bad by that.

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Mathieu Stumpf escribe: Well, all that is great, but what should I understand with all that, is there no license under which I can find songs that debian would accept in the main repository? AFAIK CC-by would allow it. Please make a short and clear answer. :) Hopefully mine is. :)

Re: Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-08 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Great, there are 996 songs under CC-by (2.0+2.5) if I just look at dogmazic.net. Thank you, that's a clear answer. Now I can go ahead! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or archive maintainer, if you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the Workgroup

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2007-06-03 at 10:06 +, MJ Ray wrote: In his role as DPL, that same ftp-master (or archive maintainer, if you prefer) has endorsed [2] the Debian Creative Commons Workgroup which opined [3] that the CCPL 3.0 is suitable for Debian main. [...] I think [3]'s the opinion of the

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:32:44 + Andrew Saunders wrote: On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
(that is to say, before it's too late...). So I red some threads but I didn't find any final answer, are CC 3.0[2] (and which one?) and free art license okay with the DFSG[3]? Regards etc. [1] http://www.stepmania.com/ [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/02/msg00059.html [3] http

Re: Free art license, CC and DFSG

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 3/5/07, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as CC-v3.0 are concerned, my personal opinion should be clear from the message[2] that you yourself cite: I don't think that any CC-v3.0 license meets the DFSG. Other people disagree with me, though. You didn't find any final answer

the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steven Barker
Hi debian-legal, I'm participating in a project that is opening the source of a classic game (Star Control 2) and porting it to modern operating systems. The code for the game has already been relicensed under the GPL, but the game's original authors (who hold copyright) have not yet picked a

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:51:59 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven Barker) wrote: I'd like the advice of this list as to whether data under that license would be DFSG free. I think the license is a pretty straightforward copyleft, though at least the translated version has some unclear language.

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 02:29, David B Harris wrote: I don't believe part 7 is saying anything additional to what copyright law already says; the original author still holds the copyright, even if you got the data from friend who got the data from a sister who got the data from an aunt who got

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread David B Harris
On 14 Dec 2002 03:08:03 -0500 Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part 8, I'm sure, will cause problems - it has in the past, but I can't remember in what context; it may just be that some zealots made some hubub a while back that. I don't really recall. I can't manage to google

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 03:08:03AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Part of 2.2: - specify to the recipient where he will be able to access the originals (initial and subsequent). The author of the original may, if he wishes, give you the right to broadcast / distribute the

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 01:51:59AM -0500, Steven Barker wrote: I'm participating in a project that is opening the source of a classic game (Star Control 2) and porting it to modern operating systems. The code for the game has already been relicensed under the GPL, but the game's original

Re: the Free Art License and the DFSG

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:29:49AM -0500, David B Harris wrote: However, Part 2.1 is a serious concern. You have the right to copy this work of art of your personal use, for your friends or any other person, by employing whatever technique you choose. Reading the original French, this is an