Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-26 Thread Ole Streicher
Roberto writes: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 01:47:51PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: >> Your other argument (with article 7) has nothing do do with copyright: >> even when this article applies to a database, it is still not >> (necessarily) copyright protected. Article 7 just

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-26 Thread Ole Streicher
Ole Streicher writes: > 2. "Sui Generis Right": By accounting the investment to create the > database. One thing to add here is article 11: | Beneficiaries of protection under the sui generis right | | 1. The right provided for in Article 7 shall apply to database whose |

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
> could you please clarify if the license below can be considered > DFSG-compatible ? > > Section 2 doesn't sound very good That’s extremely interesting. Could you elaborate, please? I did not wdiff(1) it, but it definitely sounds like a word-for-word copy of second GNU Lesser GPL to me. :-)

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 02/26/2018 06:03 PM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> could you please clarify if the license below can be considered >> DFSG-compatible ? >> >> Section 2 doesn't sound very good > > That’s extremely interesting. Could you elaborate, please? > > I did not wdiff(1) it, but it definitely sounds

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Walter Landry
Alex Mestiashvili writes: > Hi, > > could you please clarify if the license below can be considered > DFSG-compatible ? > > Section 2 doesn't sound very good, but section 3 says that GPL-2+ may be > applied. > Will it be fine to simply state that it is licensed under

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:51:44 +0100 Mihai Moldovan wrote: > * On 02/26/2018 10:28 PM, Ole Streicher wrote: > > The LGPL-2.1 starts with > > > > | Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies > > | of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. > >

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:53:12 +0100 Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > On 02/26/2018 03:50 PM, Walter Landry wrote: [...] > > It looks a like the LGPL-2. In any event, this license is fine as is. > > If anyone wants to make modifications that are not allowed by the > > existing text, then they can modify

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Ben Finney
Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> writes: > I did not wdiff(1) it, but it definitely sounds like a word-for-word > copy of second GNU Lesser GPL to me. :-) To the extent that text is derived from the GNU LGPL, it is a copyright violation: Copyright (C) 1991, 1999 Free Software

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Ole Streicher
Mihai Moldovan writes: > * On 02/26/2018 10:28 PM, Ole Streicher wrote: >> The LGPL-2.1 starts with >> >> | Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies >> | of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. >>

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > To the extent that text is derived from the GNU LGPL, it is a copyright > violation: I didn't explain well enough why I was including some of the text. This is from the GNU LGPL v2.1: > Copyright (C) 1991, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. […] >

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 02/26/2018 10:28 PM, Ole Streicher wrote: > The LGPL-2.1 starts with > > | Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies > | of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. > ^^ > > I am therefore wondering

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Ole Streicher
Francesco Poli writes: > This "IUPAC/InChI-Trust InChI Licence No. 1.0" appears to have been > created starting from the GNU LGPL v2.1, by the following steps: The LGPL-2.1 starts with | Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies | of this license

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-26 Thread Roberto
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:03:56AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > The directive is about database protection, not (only) about > copyright. It mainly shows *two* independent possibilities how database > are protectable: > > 1. Copyright protection: By accounting the creativity to produce the >

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 02/26/2018 03:50 PM, Walter Landry wrote: > Alex Mestiashvili writes: >> Hi, >> >> could you please clarify if the license below can be considered >> DFSG-compatible ? >> >> Section 2 doesn't sound very good, but section 3 says that GPL-2+ may be >> applied. >> Will

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-26 Thread Roberto
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:16:49AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > As far as I know, there is no extension agreement with the US. So, JPL as > the database maker cannot protect the database by article 7. > > Also, the protection in article 7 expires after 15 years (article > 10). The databases

IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-26 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
Hi, could you please clarify if the license below can be considered DFSG-compatible ? Section 2 doesn't sound very good, but section 3 says that GPL-2+ may be applied. Will it be fine to simply state that it is licensed under GPL-2+ and also include the original license in d/copyright ? Thank