a Free Platform License?

2011-11-24 Thread Clark C. Evans
I'm looking for a software license, which Debian would support, that actively encourages use of free platforms; and consequently restricts proprietary platforms. While GNU/Linux is the dominant server operating system, it lags on the desktop. Many of my colleagues who were just a few years ago

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-11-25 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:59 AM, Hugo Roy h...@fsfe.org wrote: Le vendredi 25 novembre 2011 à 12:04 -0500, Clark C. Evans a écrit : I understand that it's traditional for Free Software to impose restrictions primarily as a condition of distribution; Exactly, they're conditions

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-11-25 Thread Clark C. Evans
I'm looking for a license that discriminates against proprietary platforms. I'm open to any specific effects that may do this, subject, of course, to what is consistent with Debian's values. I'm pretty sure that the above stated intention is not compatible with software freedom. By

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-11-28 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:35 AM, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: This definition of Major Component may include non-free binary blob in non-free kernel modules. For example, ethernel device driver, HDD RAID driver, 3D Video driver, ... If the work requires a particular non-free

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-11-29 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:25 AM, Hugo Roy h...@fsfe.org wrote: I am talking of the freedom to distribute copies of the program. If you restrict that freedom to specific people that is clearly not free software, and that is totally consistent with RMS' l, definition as well. The GPL

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-11-29 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:25 PM, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:11:29 + Simon McVittie wrote: The tl:dr version: just use the GPL, or the AGPL if you must. My summary is somewhat similar: please just use the GNU GPL, and nothing more restrictive than that (I don't think the

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-12-04 Thread Clark C. Evans
- Original message - From: Clark C. Evans c...@clarkevans.com To: license-disc...@opensource.org Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 13:38:20 -0500 Subject: a Free Island Public License? Please find for your amusement and hopeful commentary a different take on what it means to be Free Software. FREE

Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

2011-12-04 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:55ser PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote: Perhaps they should be moved to 'contrib' category, because they interface non-free web-services. Debian's 'main' repository seems not the right place for any such web APIs. ... How far down this line until it

Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

2011-12-05 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Monday, December 05, 2011 10:51 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 05 dec 11, 21:55:28, Alexey Eromenko wrote: The contrib archive area contains supplemental packages intended to work with the Debian distribution, but which require software outside of the

Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

2011-12-12 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: What happens if my application gets smart, it looks first for the proprietary dynamic link library; and if it isn't there, it uses a web service wrapper for that library? Would this move an application from contrib to free?

Re: Thoughts on GPL's Appropriate Legal Notices? or the CPAL?

2011-12-14 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 01:37 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: An interactive user interface displays Appropriate Legal Notices to the extent that it includes a convenient and prominently visible feature that (1) displays an appropriate copyright notice, and (2) tells the user that

Re: Thoughts on GPL's Appropriate Legal Notices? or the CPAL?

2011-12-15 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 09:36 AM, Ben Finney wrote: I'll mention, again, that this forum is not appropriate for general discussion about licenses in the absence of an actual existing work that is proposed for (or already in) Debian. Hi Ben. I'm working to open source a medical informatics

Re: Thoughts on GPL's Appropriate Legal Notices? or the CPAL?

2011-12-15 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 02:28 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: The critical aspect here is whether author attributions are required to be preserved in the material, or also in the ALNs. Retaining them in the material is clearly reasonable, but I don't believe that forcing them to be present in the

Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-12-17 Thread Clark C. Evans
Jeff, Thank you for thoughts on this. Pursuant to Ben's request, the discussion of this hypothetical license (well, a 2nd pass) has been moved to license-disc...@opensource.org http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg07871.html Best, Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Local community license issue

2012-01-08 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 06:10 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: if you and the other contributors are not worried that your works will be used in proprietary derivatives, it may be most simple to take extremely liberal licenses, like the Unlicense, or to explore the way the Translation Project

Re: GPLv3/Apache argument brought up some concerns over the current state of the GPL

2012-01-09 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 07:41 PM, Felyza Wishbringer wrote: My biggest concern is that since it allows for small modifications, what would protect us, as the original authors, from someone taking our source, modifying a single line, then re-releasing under a modified GPLv3 that says that

Re: ITP fsmark - bug 655224: License restriction for lib_timing.c DFSG compliant?

2012-01-10 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: 11 * additional restriction that results may published only if 12 * (1) the benchmark is unmodified, and 13 * (2) the version in the sccsid below is included in the report. I think with professional legal assistance the intent

Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
I have approval to release HTSQL (http://htsql) under the AGPLv3 license so long as it contains an attribution requirement as permitted by section 7 of the GPL. We also plan to release some other components of our RexDB work under a more liberal permissive license with a similar attribution

Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
I apologize, the repository is https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 04:31 PM, Clark C. Evans wrote: I have approval to release HTSQL (http://htsql) under the AGPLv3 license so long as it contains an attribution requirement as permitted by section 7 of the GPL. We also

Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Francesco Poli wrote: https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn/blob/master/GPL-FMN-TERM describes itself as an additional permissive term, but seems to actually be an additional requirement. Quite right. I was reading section 7 incorrectly and had mentally

Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-25 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Francesco Poli wrote: I am not sure your addition non-permissive term really follows what is allowed by clause 7b... ... Please note the word preservation. You are correct. I apologize for the distraction. So that I'm tracking an actual submission for

Re: custom license (package: bwctl)

2012-02-03 Thread Clark C. Evans
Raoul, This looks like a non-symmetric copyleft-like attempt: then you thereby grant Internet2, its contributors, and its members for that reason, I don't think it's free Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: custom license (package: bwctl)

2012-02-03 Thread Clark C. Evans
I am not so sure. It is not required to give them back the changes. Although you are not required to provide them your enhancements, you are required to provide Internet2 licensing rights that are not granted to others should you wish to make the source code for your derivative work generally

Re: custom license (package: bwctl)

2012-02-04 Thread Clark C. Evans
Charles, I'm not a lawyer, but this looks like a one-sided consortium assignment agreement disquised as a BSD license. It's not even remotely free software. Let's read the license. | You are under no obligation whatsoever to provide any | enhancements to Internet2 or its contributors.

Re: custom license (package: bwctl)

2012-02-07 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012, at 05:27 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 09:20:19AM -0500, Clark C. Evans a écrit : | without contemporaneously requiring end users to enter into | a separate written license agreement for such enhancements Ok. So, this language iss the one

Re: Using freetranslation.mobi to translate .po files

2012-03-24 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 02:09 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Now Petter had the idea to feed this into google translations, using http://freetranslation.mobi and committed the result back into the debian-edu-doc svn repository. I don't think you can do this. #1 Translations are

Re: Using freetranslation.mobi to translate .po files

2012-03-26 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012, at 01:36 PM, Ben Finney wrote: I think this is a false assumption, the service itself required creativity to implement, and the specific choice of word associations in specific contexts is not algorithmic nor factual, but individual calls by translation submitters who

Re: Using freetranslation.mobi to translate .po files

2012-03-26 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 09:53 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: Not in the least. Releasing something under GPLv2+ means the recipient gets to *choose* which version of the GPL they're complying with, including when they create derivative works. I've not studied GPLv2 at all, I was using GPLv3

Re: foremost package - Licence of debian/* files

2012-04-14 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: I would rather suggest a license more in line with public domain works, such as Creative Commons zero license, the SQLite public domain dedication, or the GNU all-permissive license. For software works, I don't think this group should

Re: Bug#669356: electricsheep unsuitable for Debian main?

2012-04-21 Thread Clark C. Evans
Linus, So, it's my opinion that there are two core requirements for free software: the license needs to be free and the whole work must be included. What follows is my personal opinion, and I'm not a lawyer, a representative of Debian Legal, or providing any sort of legal advice. Whole Work

Re: National Land Survey open data licence - version 1.0 - 1 May 2012

2012-05-10 Thread Clark C. Evans
Timo, I'm not sure why a open source license wouldn't work? In any case, here are some comments. 2.2. Duties and responsibilities of the Licensee Through reasonable means suitable to the distribution medium or method which is used in conjunction with a product containing data or a

Re: Public Domain again

2013-02-05 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, at 07:56 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: In addition, I'd like to note that's what CC0 is for, really. It has some neat fall-back clauses that trigger in the event a jurisdiction doesn't allow for public domain works as such, and also releases database rights[1] which some

Re: data and software licence incompatabilities?

2013-09-03 Thread Clark C. Evans
Francesco Poli has been a longtime subscriber to the debian-legal mailing list. He has quite extensive knowledge about licensing, and is often the first person to answer inquiries about new licenses sent to the list. Not only that, but he reaches out to help you personally and does an