Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:09:52AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > All of this could work. However, notwithstanding that I have quite a > bit of catchup triage to do as frontdesk this week, I'd still be minded to > wait until we can confirm this is a recurring problem. I thought it was one already :) This week clearly isn't the first and don't expect it to be the last. Life happens. Always. > Otherwise, we risk adding administration (affecting both ongoing and > new contributors) for little, if any, benefit. sure, we can also wait for the next iteration and then come back to this discussion then. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C ⠈⠳⣄ There are no jobs on a dead planet. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Holger Levsen wrote: > > If we should have someone on standby we also need some procedure to detect > > that this person should step in. > > In principle we have a lot of people on standby already. I guess many in > > the team could step in most weeks already. > > both of this could be solved by [..] All of this could work. However, notwithstanding that I have quite a bit of catchup triage to do as frontdesk this week, I'd still be minded to wait until we can confirm this is a recurring problem. Otherwise, we risk adding administration (affecting both ongoing and new contributors) for little, if any, benefit. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org chris-lamb.co.uk `-
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:29:44PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > If we should have someone on standby we also need some procedure to detect > that this person should step in. > In principle we have a lot of people on standby already. I guess many in > the team could step in most weeks already. both of this could be solved by having a default 2nd person in charge aka standby. > I myself could have stepped in, but since we have no obvious procedure in > stepping in, and I did not want to step on anyone toes, I did not. no reaction for 24/36h => standby person is autmatically asked to step in. (we'd just need to define whether its 24 or 36 or whatever.) > So the question is, should we have some method of detecting an absent > front-desk? If we do, we should probably have it automated... no reply within 24/36: => absent front-desk. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Hi Holger If we should have someone on standby we also need some procedure to detect that this person should step in. In principle we have a lot of people on standby already. I guess many in the team could step in most weeks already. I myself could have stepped in, but since we have no obvious procedure in stepping in, and I did not want to step on anyone toes, I did not. So the question is, should we have some method of detecting an absent front-desk? If we do, we should probably have it automated... // Ola On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 15:14, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 03:01:40PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > Should one take over the front-desk in this case? > > another idea: have someone on stand-by for each and every week, by > default. > > > -- > cheers, > Holger > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C > ⠈⠳⣄ > -- --- Inguza Technology AB --- MSc in Information Technology | o...@inguza.como...@debian.org| | http://inguza.com/Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 | ---
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 03:01:40PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Should one take over the front-desk in this case? another idea: have someone on stand-by for each and every week, by default. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C ⠈⠳⣄ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 03:01:40PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Yes it looks like a calendar oversight, or computer breakdown (or similar). > There are quite a few packages in the triage list. > Nothing major as it looks like. > > Should one take over the front-desk in this case? I think so, yes. Maybe only temporarily, and maybe only after 36h, but maybe 24h is fine. Whatever is chosen though, it should be documented. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C ⠈⠳⣄ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Hi Chris, all Yes it looks like a calendar oversight, or computer breakdown (or similar). There are quite a few packages in the triage list. Nothing major as it looks like. Should one take over the front-desk in this case? // Ola On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 11:27, Chris Lamb wrote: > Holger Levsen wrote: > > > > The whole idea of pinging the FD is that they know that you're taking > care > > > of this and the work doesn't get duplicated for some reasons. > > > > If that's the case we shouldn't call it "pinging FD" but rather > > "informing FD" (and Chris then should go ahead with the update > > immediately). > > I've just gone ahead and added (and then claimed) python-django, and > will shortly prepare the releases for both LTS and ELTS. > > (On a related note, I wonder if Emilio has had a calendar oversight nd > does not realise they are on FD this week.) > > > Regards, > > -- > ,''`. > : :' : Chris Lamb > `. `'` la...@debian.org chris-lamb.co.uk >`- > > -- --- Inguza Technology AB --- MSc in Information Technology | o...@inguza.como...@debian.org| | http://inguza.com/Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 | ---
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Holger Levsen wrote: > > The whole idea of pinging the FD is that they know that you're taking care > > of this and the work doesn't get duplicated for some reasons. > > If that's the case we shouldn't call it "pinging FD" but rather > "informing FD" (and Chris then should go ahead with the update > immediately). I've just gone ahead and added (and then claimed) python-django, and will shortly prepare the releases for both LTS and ELTS. (On a related note, I wonder if Emilio has had a calendar oversight nd does not realise they are on FD this week.) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org chris-lamb.co.uk `-
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:47:34PM +0530, Utkarsh Gupta wrote: > The whole idea of pinging the FD is that they know that you're taking care > of this and the work doesn't get duplicated for some reasons. If that's the case we shouldn't call it "pinging FD" but rather "informing FD" (and Chris then should go ahead with the update immediatly). -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Life is short but a sea of morons is forever. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Hi Chris, On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:21 PM Chris Lamb wrote: > > Glancing at lts-frontdesk.2021.txt, it seems like you are on LTS duty > > this week. Would you object if I added and claimed python-django to > > address CVE-2021-28658? I am the maintainer in unstable. (The same > > goes for ela-needed.txt too.) > > Gentle ping on the above? Whilst I am not on FD, but I guess you can go ahead with the python-django update because it's clear that you work on these (as always) and you're more experienced to take a call when to release an update and when not to. The whole idea of pinging the FD is that they know that you're taking care of this and the work doesn't get duplicated for some reasons. And it's mostly clear that it won't be duplicated and the pings are enough for FD to be aware. Hope that makes sense and unblocks you. - u
Re: Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Hi Emilio, > Glancing at lts-frontdesk.2021.txt, it seems like you are on LTS duty > this week. Would you object if I added and claimed python-django to > address CVE-2021-28658? I am the maintainer in unstable. (The same > goes for ela-needed.txt too.) Gentle ping on the above? Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org chris-lamb.co.uk `-
Adding python-django to dla-needed.txt
Hi Emilio, Glancing at lts-frontdesk.2021.txt, it seems like you are on LTS duty this week. Would you object if I added and claimed python-django to address CVE-2021-28658? I am the maintainer in unstable. (The same goes for ela-needed.txt too.) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org chris-lamb.co.uk `-
