Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2022-02-13 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> > Please do have a look at a sample header attached. If you find any fields > > that may give any hints about the calibration or post processing that the > > vendor software applies, please do highlight. > > E.g. this (undocumented aka Private) tag's value seems to be varying > across images: >

Re: Aw: Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-07 Thread Sebastian Hilbert
Am Samstag, 2. Januar 2021, 19:02:59 CET schrieb Sebastian Hilbert: > The company being acquired is correct. The license stuff is a different > story. The license check might entirely happen in their commercial > software. In other words talking to the device might be possible without > any

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-05 Thread Karsten Hilbert
draw four lines touching the circle, each pair at 90° draw a line splitting each 90° in half (at 45° that is) going through the circle the intersection of those two midlines should be the centre of the circle :-) better: fit a square around the circle ... Karsten > Gesendet: Dienstag, 05.

Re: Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-05 Thread Sonali Warunjikar
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 09:42:08AM +0100, Sebastian Hilbert wrote: > There is some info on the licensing stuff in this document > http://hsc.myvnc.com/last/good/upload/faq/pdf/CS3000_Dental_Imaging_IG.pdf[2] This version of procedure is much newer than the one I bought in 2015. Both node locked

Re: �Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-03 Thread Sonali Warunjikar
On Sun, Jan 03, 2021 at 02:48:58PM +0100, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > > https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/advice-on-sizing-a-server-for-25-users-dental-office.2171855/ Feel for them. Just to contrast it, the whole activity I did started with a desire to use a Raspbery Pi 4 (now that it

Re: �Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-03 Thread Karsten Hilbert
Am Sun, Jan 03, 2021 at 10:42:23AM +0530 schrieb Sonali Warunjikar: > > Test his code with another RGV5200 sensor. I would try to find > > dental office IT user groups and ask if anyone owns that sensor > > and would be willing to test ... > > The problem is: it limits the universe to those whom

Re:  Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Sonali Warunjikar
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 07:11:16PM +0100, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Mayuresh (Ganesha? ;-) Good grasp and patience to search! > Test his code with another RGV5200 sensor. I would try to find > dental office IT user groups and ask if anyone owns that sensor > and would be willing to test ... Yes.

Re:  Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Sonali Warunjikar
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 07:02:59PM +0100, Sebastian Hilbert wrote: >This theory would have to be checked with a 3rd party software that >officially supports the device - if such a thing exists. We saw at least one third party software on this thread which insists that the carestream

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
As for the "best" post-processing settings for the raw image could the following scenario help ? - setup a passthrough, logging, usb monitor - capture an x-ray image with the Windows software - simultaneously capture the raw image within the monitor Then, manually with, say, GIMP, adjust

Aw:  Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> If someone else had a sensor and could make the current code work as is, this > would exclude a license in unique to the sensor That's exactly what was proposed. Next step would be to identify another user of said sensor who'd be willing to have the code run. Karsten

Aw:  Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> The company being acquired is correct. The license stuff is a different > story. The license check might entirely happen in their > commercial software. In other words talking to the device might be possible > without any license check. If one knows how to talk to the device. > > This theory

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> Given this (page 5) > > > https://www.atlasresell.com/sites/default/files/KodakTrophyWindowsGuide.pdf and this http://www.unident.ru/en/news/Carestream-120-years-in-the-service-of-dentistry-13633.phtml :-o Karsten

Aw: Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Sebastian Hilbert
If someone else had a sensor and could make the current code work as is, this would exclude a license in unique to the sensor--Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.Am 02.01.21, 18:55 schrieb Karsten Hilbert : Given this (page 5)

Aw: Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Sebastian Hilbert
The company being acquired is correct. The license stuff is a different story. The license check might entirely happen in their commercial software. In other words talking to the device might be possible without any license check. If one knows how to talk to the device.This theory would have

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
Given this (page 5) https://www.atlasresell.com/sites/default/files/KodakTrophyWindowsGuide.pdf I've got a theory on the two devices: Once upon a time an x-ray sensor was developed and certified by Trophy. Later, Trophy was acquired by Kodak. Eventually, Kodak started marketing its

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> The latter is coming closer to the reality, but not sure it's accurate > enough as yet. May be there was a gap between the finger and the sensor > when trial x ray was taken as our attention was on usb interface rather > than lengths (getting computed length smaller than the actual one of the >

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> [1] confirms the pixel size to be 19 micro. pypng does have a way to > supply it. Now it's reporting sensible distances, but have to check and > see if there are calibration issues. > > BTW any idea, what "True (measured) resolution = 16lp/mm" means in [1]? It > seems it's called line pairs per

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> It is showing the length of index finger distal phalanx close to 1ft! (I > assure that's not the reality!) :-) > Can anyone suggest which field it is? (Another point in favor of DICOM, > but let me sort out the issue with a generic image first.) Sure, I would first get one image format

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-01 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> > Install a freshly downloaded version (say, a trial version) of your > > imaging software (or of another software documented to support your > > sensor). Plug in the sensor and monitor the USB flow. > > Or, since the sensor offers a TWAIN driver, you might try to install that > and access the

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-01 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> Another idea: get an entirely fresh machine (laptop/VM) that never knew > anything of your clinic/sensor before. A Windows machine, that is. > > Install a freshly downloaded version (say, a trial version) of your > imaging software (or of another software documented to support your > sensor).

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2021-01-01 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> I'll refine the code a bit and open it up. But the unfortunate nature of > such exercise is where I have a driver but I do not 'know' the protocol. I > am merely playing back the traces and those traces could be tied to my > license key. Another idea: get an entirely fresh machine (laptop/VM)

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2020-12-31 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> I'll refine the code a bit and open it up. But the unfortunate nature of > such exercise is where I have a driver but I do not 'know' the protocol. I > am merely playing back the traces and those traces could be tied to my > license key. You don't, by any chance, happen to be able to access

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2020-12-31 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> would give much more credit to ... your own persistence. Very true. Pulling this off is quite a feat unless one is a fairly experienced hard/soft tinkerer. Karsten

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2020-12-31 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> Yes, it's now closer to a real X ray. The Dr still sees some problems, but > I think it will need some experiments with exposure, brightness and > contrast. Typically, there's presets for those but as a doctor one always plays with them such settings during the diagnostics process. So, I

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2020-12-31 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 02:15:33PM +0530, Sonali Warunjikar wrote: > > Now the USB layer is as such over. The challenge now shifts to the format > > of the data gathered. I would also try the following: - create a small loopback filesystem - mount it - fill it with a nulls-only file (cp from

Aw: Re: Acquiring Dental RVG on Linux

2020-12-11 Thread Sebastian Hilbert
How is the machine connected ? USB ? Network ?   What are the resulting files you get on disk with the Windows software or is it stored in a database ?   I might be worth looking into how the software actually finds out the hardware has changed. They might check the MAC address of the network