On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:59:37PM +0200, Tobias Toedter wrote:
I couldn't find the source on the website.
Neither could I. As is it's got no place in Debian any more
than any other proprietary application.
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Should we fill RFP with alle the software so maybe someone
pick up a package?
I think RFP or ITP make sense for those packages we consider valuable
for the project. But we should not do this blindly. For the list at
http://auric.debian.org/~tille/debian-med/
I just used the index at
Should we check the OIO Project Library, too ?
OIO is just on my local harddisk. I just want to sort out the
way how to package it until I send an ITP. I do not like long
standing ITPs in the BTS because the packaging work lasts longer
than expected.
Nah, I was talking about content. You
Hi,
I am very excited about this whole project. I read the page about how
everyone is in need of a public domain drug database. I have a book
entitled American Drug Index:2000 which has many drugs in it but
they are not in the public domain unfortunatly. Does anyone have any
ideas on how
Sounds reasonable, especially since data files would have to
be updated in a timely manner anyways.
This could be done in two different ways:
- The maintainer has to care about updates of the installer package.
This would be quite hard, because users will normally run the
stable
Hi,
I've been toying with the idea of writing a medication rating system
that is an online web application in which users are able to give
comments about medications that they have used. One of it's features
is to allow people to enter in new medications if it is not currently
available.
For transcribing one doesn't need all of the information - just the
spelling and possibly use (to see if the medication fits to context).
This, however, is insufficient for a medical doctor.
For generating prescriptions I need
- name
- acting compounds
- strength
- packaging details
-
resmed-doc (Analysis document of Resmedicinae)
Did you package German, English, txt or sgml ?
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for such things.
Regards,
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is Woody+1. So I think you should not talk about Potato installation
for PPC on this list. It is completely irrelevant here.
Although I agree that it is not very relevant here I
acknowledge that he does seem to have a point: Debian-ppc is
at present not recommendable for use on PPCs in health
Put it in, I guess.
It most likely fits into patient-tools, though.
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So you are telling me that it doesn't matter whether I
write for (real world, not ivory tower), say, an airport
logistics system, a doctor's office or a Multi User Dungeon ?
All I need to do is plug in the appropriate domain
representation ?!? Nah. On paper that sounds awfully correct
but I
2. med-dent *suggest* OdontoLinux! *or* LinuxDent
would be fair to both, perhaps could give some recomendations in
the docs, but would not prevent from installing both which is bad
(see 1.)
I like this.
On second thought (see below) this is my favourite.
3.
Please - no flamewars about OO or not OO.
Agreed.
(This was my official opinion. My very personal opinion about
Tcl/Tk: Does the world really need YASL = Yet Another Scripting
Language???
Uhm, Tcl/Tk is _older_ than either Python, Ruby or Perl so in a
sense it has more of a right to be there
2. I would not have a browser based interface to start with.
Ah, good :-) Makes for a warm fuzzy feeling. I invite
anyone who argues in favour of web frontends to come sit in
with me on a busy round of seeing patients using my current
commercial system. Afterwards they'll think afresh
Besides these screenshots, there's also some documentation that might
be useable for Analysis and could, for example, be integrated into the
ResMedicinae AnalysisDocument, step by step:
http://resmedicinae.sourceforge.net/model/analysis/index.html
I have read their documentation and it is
As I said above: Try woody. Somebody who managed FreeBSD would have
enough knowledge to work around the really view flaws in this stage
called testing. We are near stable and need some testers for upgrades.
Just upgrade to testing and try
apt-get install zope-psycopgda
To
Hi Andrew,
Not very useful, indeed (and not very original, either).
However, it is premature to write off such an architecture as useless
Note how I said not very useful instead of useless. The
one thing a minimalist table structure like this tells you is
that anything contained in this
being turned into structured
computer-legible text skipping the transcriber (I may be wrong
there).
This would be the holy grail of speech recognition.
This _is_ hard (nowadays, anyways).
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Is anyone working on a program that will parse the data from a dictation,
ie a plain text file, and place it, appropriately, into a database?
Maybe I _was_ wrong in my assumption of speech - text.
There has been mention on the openhealth list of some software
or other that extracts clinically
2 Copyright
Your remarks ImageJ is open-source ... are not valid as long
as you don't put at least your copyright there, for example:
Copyright (c) 2001-2002. Wayne Rasband. All rights reserved.
Not true, at least for Germany.
You, the author, implicitely acquire the copyright by creating
the
be very
indebted if you could enlighten me.
Thanks !
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But, even when the data itself is ready, the next question is how are
they to use it? Link to BerekelyDB and open up file
/usr/share/medications/whatever. Sure, but ideally this will be a
product that end-users can simply install on their system. Other
applications hook-in to it so that it
prescriber less will be needed. For a simple prescriber - and even a
university hospital department - a long and bloated list containing
thousands of items will be counterproductive and lead to frustration and
non-use: hand-written prescriptions may be simpler and quicker. So there
A short
detail.
There's plenty of information that's never going to be
obsolete and won't change too much over time. That's what the
Medical HowTo should provide.
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input like this. I will create an extra page for HIS but I wonder
where to place the Mumps entry ...
Either infrastructure or HIS since that's what it is
mostly used for (in the medical domain).
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Many doctors have problems colecting data for their clinical research in
medicine. This is especially a problem when they want to collect data
betwen different hospitals. This is usually a lot of paperwork.
It would be nice if someone would make a web aplication, that would
allow
Ok, Im at loose ends,
but has anyone got gnumedn running on debian?
Ian does, I suspect.
If so, are you using stable packages, or did you build
your own?
I do not know about any Debian packages of GnuMed. I assure you that I
watch GnuMed closely
Thanks, Andreas, this is important to us.
Nice to hear that my impression was not wrong and I was just sitting
around while GnuMed is rock stable in production. ;-)
Feel free to announce any preliminary stuff which is worth packaging.
A short installation procedure description is very helpful in this
case.
Gerardo is your man here.
Do you think that Gnutrition (http://gnutrition.sourceforge.net/)
is a target for Debian-Med?
Yes.
If yes, in what category would you put it (or should there be a new
category)?
Patient information/education/assistance.
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The WHO is still working on a reference formulary of 300 odd
drugs including side effects and contraindications. Some more
information can be found here:
http://www.who.int/medicines/
If we could get this into GnuMed we'd have a reasonable base
drug database.
Anybody wants to contact them ?
The main problem I see here is that we don't make a clear
enough distinction. OdontoLinux (or GnuMed-Client for that
matter) does not depend on a database being _installed_ but by
it being _accessible_ IOW it depends on the availability of a
certain _service_.
The current dependancy system simply
The problem with that is, that you could have the service not beeing
available at the time of the installation. Maybe you are doing the
installation at nighttime, and a service is only available during
working hours. There must be a difference between installation and the
use of a package.
Hi Jubal,
my brother has been working on exactly this and got a copy of
Knoppix with the older GnuMed *.debs running. Andreas is in
the process (AFAIK) of preparing new *.debs from a more
recent snapshot. I am his technical contact at GnuMed proper.
I have forwared your post to my brother (who
o Secondly, I need to trim about 100-200MBs of the current
knoppix CD to make room for the medical software. I'm
planning to remove games, and other small things like nmap,
aalib etc, does anyone see any thing big and obvious that
can be
Not a solution but maybe useful:
I am happily running GnuMed on Python 2.1.1 without any
problems so far.
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I really can't imagine that there exist no set of default values for
any program to get at least demo functionality.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
I can't see a reason why this should not go into /usr/{lib,share}/{gtm,vista}
and these environment variables to /etc/{gtm,vista}.conf
Have
I hopefully found a Debian developer who will step in and is
living in this area! So nothing will be lost and may be
we could save the money for future use.
Just got back from travelling and it having been incredibly
cheap would have been prepared to sponsor another 50 Euro or
so.
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Elizabeth,
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=77925
Any chance you can provide a tar.gz with your diff applied for
those poor souls not running Debian ?
Basically the 0.4-1.deb in tar.gz format without the
deb-specific goodies such as depencancy information.
IOW, a
patch
(Ian: FYI)
Liz,
I just found this when looking for drugs.
I think you are doing one great job in true Open Source fashion
quietly and persistently digging for data sharing what you
found and eventually massaging the data into some better
usable format. Do you have any plans on collaborating with
Salute Pierre,
As far as I could get some piece of information by the WWW, I think that a
good way to achieve this goal could be to use a database basis (PostgreSQL
or, more simple, SQLite) with a GUI made with Tcl/Tk in order to make it
easily portable on different platforms.
What do
1/ the ASM software deals with Animal Shelters management. It seems to be
adaptable to a veterinary practice (it offers management of clients and
animals files) but it is copyrighted and I don't know if it can be modified
freely.
The license is GPL.
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You are probably right, and depending on teTeX would be too much,
especially if it is just because of such a small application. However,
we need not decide on this now, need we? There's no package for
TeXshade, and once there is one we can think about it again. Probably a
Recommends would be
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 11:32:12PM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
Moreover we discussed the chances of getting GnuMed
What was the outcome regarding GNUmed ?
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 09:34:53AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
People was quite interested in GnuMed when I told them that it
is my next packaging target
Sounds good. We'll see what happens. Is there anything we
can do to make packaging easier for you such as providing
preliminary 0.1 tarballs ?
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 10:35:35PM +0200, Juergen Salk wrote:
Subject: Re: Roentgenbild-Betrachter, was fuer Debian-Med?
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http://www.orcero.org/irbis/kradview/
*Very* useful.
Just out of interest: How
It would be highly desirable to have Debian packages for i-Path.
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On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 01:58:27PM +0200, Maria Pinjanainen wrote:
I maybe plan a new network and all stuff for a little medical clinic.
...
My cilent is a diabetic clinic and they want a small local net, server for
databases, high security and so on...
I is there any special software I
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:35:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to findouy what the word with B-12 Folsaure means
folic acid
Please improve your googling skills.
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 10:50:15AM -0400, Vergil Slee wrote:
It is from GEHR (I downloaded stuff in 2001). They have a very pretty
web site, but it's hard to find out if they have a product to go into a
doctor's office now.
They don't and it never was their intention to have one if I
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:55:16AM -0400, Vergil Slee wrote:
If the goal is an EMR, what is it to be used for if not in the
physician's office?
AFAIK the goal of GEHR was to *define* an EHR, not to
*implement* one. It has long since been superceded by OpenEHR.
That''s where the bulk of the
We are nearing full-Beta for release 0.2. Starting
immediately we need people to torture the current codebase.
Please download the GNUmed client, point it at our public
database and start complaining about bugs.
server: salaam.homeunix.com
database: gnumed_v2
user: any-doc
password: any-doc
Hi all,
we are in the final phase for version 0.2 of GNUmed.
http://www.gnumed.org
http://salaam.homeunix.com/twiki/bin/view/Gnumed/WebHome
Unfortunately, our Debian Package manager (Andreas Tille)
for 0.1 will not be able to do the same for 0.2 due to time
constraints.
Our reference
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:21:24AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
my work for Debian-Med again. I moved at June 21 to my new house
and I hope that the famous German Telekom will finally manage to
give me a DSL connection (which now lasts 14 days :- - stupid
people there, I could tell you
will be available in 10 days time.
Find extensive documentation here:
http://wiki.gnumed.de
Karsten Hilbert, MD
GNUmed developer
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We are nearing completion of a medical dictionary for openoffice, and
have begun work on a project to form a database of information for
Labarotory use, and a database for homeopathy and acupuncture as well.
Are you talking about databases of *content* for lab/... use
or databases of
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:47:16PM +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
May I suggest considering packaging DrugRef as this is a
FOSS drug database framework.
http://www.drugref.org
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 07:48:29AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
Thanks you for your verbose information about OpenHIS. I personally
can not give reasonable comments about OpenHIS except that ist sounds
very reasonable what you wrote. The only technical comment I would
like to give: Make sure
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:41:03PM -0300, Dr. Jorge R. Rodriguez wrote:
On 2006, we decided to quit care2x-ar development and to begin new one HIS.
This is OpenHIS, based on Apache+php+MySQL or Postgress,
I would suggest to truly deeply carefully evaluate whether
you are sure you really want to
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:55:38PM +0100, RKI Andreas wrote:
field::medicine:practice
fine, I would not mind information systems instead of practice, though.
Or we should distinguish between practicioners, dentists and hospital
systems. It sounds at least reasonable to distiguish
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On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:19:40PM +0100, Hilbert, Sebastian wrote:
GNUmed ist nun bereits für enge umschriebene Einsatzzwecke im täglichen
Gebrauch und entwickelt sich beständig weiter.
...
Weil sich einige
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:03:25AM +0100, Steffen Moeller wrote:
I just skimmed through our Debian Med packages at popcon.debian.org. Are you
all contributing to these anonymous statistics? The recent versions do no
longer need to send emails.
You are probably guessing it already, the
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 04:16:42PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
It seems to me that the best way to get openmedspel in Debian would be
to make it available as a myspell/hunspell dictionnary,
Please consider aspell as well.
The benefit would be that GNUmed gains direct advantage of
openmedspell
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 06:09:26PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
I am a bit ignorant about electronic dictionaries... Is it possible to
use two together, or does OpenMedSpel need to be complemented with a
standard dictionnary ?
Dictionaries as used in *spell are compiled from word lists.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:58:36AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
I am a bit ignorant about electronic dictionaries... Is it possible to
use two together, or does OpenMedSpel need to be complemented with a
standard dictionnary ?
Dictionaries as used in *spell are compiled from word lists.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:03:04AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
I would like it if Karsten would provide some advertising text for
the GNUmed client that we could include into our Debian-Med news.
Sure. What type of audience ? How long ? Should it introduce
the package or talk about technical
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 04:04:05PM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
OTOH, the description of GNUmed is uh, non-existant.
You are right.
[Karsten, could you please provide a three sentence German summary?]
I could, but you might just as well point to the talk I am
holding a few hours earlier at the
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 08:37:49PM +0200, Michael Hanke wrote:
A number of people tried to package AMIDE (including myself). The last
attempt was done by Dominique Belhachemi.
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~domibel/amide/
Yaroslav Halchenko and I tried to complete the packaging, but we
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:27:46PM +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
Anyway, we packaged volpack:
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-exppsy/volpack/?rev=0sc=0
But unfortunately discovered that libfame is non-free.
:-( Very schade.
Any thoughts on a remedy for that ?
Maybe it can
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 09:23:06AM -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
Amide is waiting on the NEW queue. It's the same file from the above
link.
What does this mean for potential testers ?
The NEW queue can be viewed at [1] and for people that want to install
amide, you can use [2]
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:14:02AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
as I have understand this is good news for the GNUmed people.
Should I add a
Recommends: libchipcard3
to med-practice?
Yes, please.
Will be testing as soon as it moves to testing ;-)
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:38:57PM +0200, Petr He�man wrote:
Hi, what is with the package gnumed-snellen?
Currently the gnumed-snellen package isn't distributed with
gnumed-client. The reason for that was that we so far lacked
time (and use case based motivation) to review the code for
medical
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:39:55PM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
I need it very urgently but I can't it find between debian packages.
How urgent is urgent ?
Urgent enough to work on the code???
I just tested and cleaned up the code a bit. It works just fine.
If the OP wants to use it contact me
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:57:41PM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
[1] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/bugs.php
It is really great that we will have a tool which will give us an
overview of all the packages included in our CDD !
It doesn't. It misses (at least) gnumed-client. Unless I am
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 12:36:54AM -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
Below you will see the output of a script (very ugly but functional
Not quite:
* gnumed-client: new version available (.0.1-rc5 0.2.7.0)
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 08:41:54AM +0100, RKI Andreas wrote:
Aeskulap has just entered unstable distribution.
Nice !
Please make aeskulap a Suggest: in gnumed-client.
Thanks,
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On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:40:02PM +0100, paul van den berg wrote:
as a pharmacoepidemiologist I regularly use drug databases. Most of them are
non-free,
but the ATC/DDD system is available free of charge.
I have a shell script to wget the data from http://www.whocc.no/atcddd and a
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 05:30:41PM +0100, RKI Andreas wrote:
Does your script turn the data into SQL statements ? That
would be *most* useful, much more than a mysql database as
such.
Sounds very reasonable. I could imagine scripts
create_act-ddd_drug_db
update_act-ddd_drug_db
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 11:09:23PM +0100, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
It is easy to convert $dbh-do(insert ..) to print(insert ..),
but it is not so easy to write fully portable sql.
In my script I use
create table if not exists ..
PG:
drop table if exists ...
create table
Paul,
any chance you could include an option/script to not
actually *import* the data but rather write INSERT
statements into a file for later import ?
That would be great !
Thanks,
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:19:52PM -, Debian Wiki wrote:
+ http://madsurgeon.net/debian-med/deb_ecg.jpg
That one's nice.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 09:39:11PM +0100, RKI Andreas wrote:
I've been thinking about letting you know earlier, but here's some info
anyway. I have been packaging a userspace driver for the USB
photospectrometers made by Avantes (http://www.avantes.com). So far, I
have only sent it to them
Betreff: Re: Bug#463873: ITP: pondus -- personal weight manager
for GTK+2 (fwd)
...
Anyway, it seems to me a toy than an util itself. But, well, we also
have mencal and cycle there :)
Such things belong into a section Personal Health which is the third
major part of health care:
1) personal
Such things belong into a section Personal Health which is the third
major part of health care:
NetEpi as an epidemiologist's tool belongs with other integrators of the three
areas of healthcare I alluded to:
It draws (inputs) from a variety of sources - personal, professional
and research
Completely correct. The problem of listing prospective packages
(currently)
is that they sould reasonably be added to a tasks file that contains at
least one existing package inside Debian. I'm thinking about enhancing
CDD tools to not create a meta package in case there would be no single
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 02:52:03PM +0100, RKI Andreas wrote:
Is there any interest to package MESA for Debian-med?
Well, it sounds like medicine related free software
MESA seems to be a suite of tools for testing IHE
conformance.
IHE: Integrating Health Environment (or some such)
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Hilbert, Sebastian wrote:
I added the following repository to my N810 sources.list
Which release did the N810 run in the first place ?
If it was stable you'll have to upgrade the entire thing to
testing first. Which currently isn't exactly a piece of
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Charles Plessy
this is a great day for me
Ganbatte !
Bufu ikkan,
Karsten
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Yes, please !
We'd make gnumed-client-de depend on it if it were available.
Karsten
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:53:05PM +0200, Tobias Toedter wrote:
In addition to the simple wordlist, I'm planning to provide packages for
hunspell (and maybe aspell). Would that be interesting for you as well?
Absolutely :-) We already depend on either/or with aspell
being recommended over
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 08:37:24AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
Andreas, can we make this a Recommends: in gnumed-client-de ?
Done in SVN. BTW, would you like to gain SVN access to apply such
things yourself?
Well, hehe, rather not :-)
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On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:19:01AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
just for your information, there's now a new package in unstable, providing
spell checking support for medical texts with hunspell, called
hunspell-de-med.
Just added to the task tools (knowing that this is not really an optimal
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:05:09PM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
Uhmm, I have the feeling that any message about menu is perfectly hidden.
Just had an issue with he mysterious menu format 2 last year ...
BTW, the menu section of the Debian Policy/Manual lists
gnumed-client as an example of
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 06:42:56PM -0700, Gerardo E. Arnaez wrote:
Thanks for Tille for directing to the correct list.
I have written two very simple apps that I find useful at work
and think they would be useful to others
One is a app to determine when a script is due,
the other helps
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 08:01:20AM -0700, Gerardo E. Arnaez wrote:
Yes.
I took the advice from this list and signed up for sourceforge.
Now just need to upload the code (its very tiny, just python scripts)
and then will notify the list again to see if it's worth including in
debian-med,
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 07:20:05PM -0700, Gerardo E. Arnaez wrote:
packaged or not; it is the administrators of the Debian FTP archive who
do so. I am actually a bit concerned that they will object that
prescriptiondue is only two files, but if so we can find a solution at
that moment.
I
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:29:52AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
I do not think that you have to rewrite your program :) At worse, we may
have to ship it together with another program in the same source
pacakge.
GNUmed would host it if needed.
Karsten
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 08:22:42AM -0700, Gerardo E. Arnaez wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Karsten Hilbert
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:29:52AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
I do not think that you have to rewrite your program :) At worse, we may
have
How would I go about getting this done?
You'd contact Andreas Tille, who is our maintainer, and
explain the situation.
Uhm, n, not to me personally. ;-)
I'm just reading the list and I just asked Gerardo to post here.
I will just do it if I find time - but perhaps somebody else on
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 03:47:42AM +0200, RKI Andreas wrote:
I was thinking Gerardo asks you whether it's OK to just include his code
with GNUmed and be
done with it. That would make for two more executables to be put in
/usr/bin/ and a few Python
modules to go in site-packages/
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