Re: RFS: steam-powered

2008-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchie
Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 09:53:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Dear mentors and games team, Heh, more than 9 months old. But I only just came across the ITP. ^_^ I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * Package name: steam-powered

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2008-05-10 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 09:53:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Dear mentors and games team, Heh, more than 9 months old. But I only just came across the ITP. ^_^ I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * Package name: steam-powered Version : 5 Upstream

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-03 21:38:09 CEST]: if someone is willing to package and maintain it, then why not? i thought the goal was for debian to be the universal operating system. how can the system be universal if software is refused because it is used to run non-dfsg

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Ben Finney
Michael, please preserve attribution lines so it's clear who wrote what you're quoting. Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This sub-thread is discussing whether we *want* software in Debian whose only purpose is to sell non-free software. like i said before, the purpose of the

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:59:02AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit : But even then this doesn't get you any further - calling up other more-or-less bad examples doesn't make yours any better, that's kindergarden argumentation line. Yes, but the social contract doesn't regulate where one

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread mill / in-medias-res
Hey Michael, like i said before, the purpose of the package is to help the average user to easily run the software of their choice on linux. steam does include a store, but it is by no means the only purpose for the software. I want that choice too. I'm playing Half-life1 (CS) and

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Finney wrote: [...] There's nothing in the social contract that compels anyone to include any specific software in Debian if they are disinclined to do so. The package in question has as its sole purpose the promotion of non-free software.

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Ben Finney
David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given that I've just seen pretty much exactly the same conversation on -devel about a week ago, and that this keeps popping up, it's obvious that there *is* demand for working non-free software on Debian. (I use it myself.) It's obvious that people want

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 07:06:19PM +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given that I've just seen pretty much exactly the same conversation on -devel about a week ago, and that this keeps popping up, it's obvious that there *is* demand for working non-free

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Charles Plessy wrote: Fortunately, the wise people who wrote the Social Contract made it clear: We have created contrib and non-free areas in our archive for these works. The packages in these areas are not part of the Debian system, although they have been configured for use with

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Patrick Schoenfeld schrieb: Charles Plessy wrote: Fortunately, the wise people who wrote the Social Contract made it clear: We have created contrib and non-free areas in our archive for these works. The packages in these areas are not part of the Debian system, although they have been

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-04 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * Package name: steam-powered Version : 5 Upstream Author : Michael Gilbert * URL : no website * License : gpl Section : contrib/games Does the

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-03 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The users *are* free to choose the software that's out there. The Debian project is also free to refuse to choose what software it distributes. the key word is distribution. the question is whether the part of the software to be added to the

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-03 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2007/9/3, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The users *are* free to choose the software that's out there. The Debian project is also free to refuse to choose what software it distributes. the key word is distribution. the question is whether

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-03 Thread Josef Spillner
On Monday 03 September 2007 11:29:17 Miriam Ruiz wrote: I for one would prefer not to concentrate too much in adding that kind of software to Debian, and even less in trying to promote it if there's no real demand for it beforehand. Very well said, Miriam. There are similar issues with other

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-03 Thread Michael Gilbert
This sub-thread is discussing whether we *want* software in Debian whose only purpose is to sell non-free software. like i said before, the purpose of the package is to help the average user to easily run the software of their choice on linux. steam does include a store, but it is by no means

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-03 Thread Michael Gilbert
I for one would prefer not to concentrate too much in adding that kind of software to Debian, and even less in trying to promote it if there's no real demand for it beforehand. there is demand. 90% of computer users play games, and steam has a lot of users (3 million players per month [1]).

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-09-02 Thread Michael Gilbert
The users *are* free to choose the software that's out there. The Debian project is also free to refuse to choose what software it distributes. the key word is distribution. the question is whether the part of the software to be added to the archive is distributable. for steam-powered, all

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Bjoern Boschman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I build your packages and installed steam-powered and counter-strike steam-powered downloaded http://www.steampowered.com/download/SteamInstall.msi but it seems that it was not installed when I run /usr/games/steam-powered or

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Bjoern Boschman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I build your packages and installed steam-powered and counter-strike steam-powered downloaded http://www.steampowered.com/download/SteamInstall.msi but it seems that it was not installed This is a mailing list for assisting people who build packages

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 10:51:11PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Bjoern Boschman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I build your packages and installed steam-powered and counter-strike steam-powered downloaded http://www.steampowered.com/download/SteamInstall.msi but it seems that it was not installed

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Hi, On Wednesday 29 August 2007, Michael Gilbert wrote: number for counter-strike. if the user doesn't own the game when it is launched like this, steam will bring up the page for the user to purchase it. Are there free games available on the steam plattform? I ask because the vast majority

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
Bjoern Boschman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I build your packages and installed steam-powered and counter-strike steam-powered downloaded http://www.steampowered.com/download/SteamInstall.msi but it seems that it was not installed when I run

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
Are there free games available on the steam plattform? sadly there are no steam games that are free of cost. however, it is free of cost to run the steam application itself, to use it to browse their pages, to use their communicator to chat with friends, and to play no-cost game demos. I ask

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: users should not be forced to adopt only free software. they should be free to choose whether they wish to take the pragmatic or idealogical road for all of their software. Please, not this chestnut again. The users *are* free to choose the software

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 11:57:58AM +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: users should not be forced to adopt only free software. they should be free to choose whether they wish to take the pragmatic or idealogical road for all of their software. Please,

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The users *are* free to choose the software that's out there. The Debian project is also free to refuse to choose what software it distributes. Hmm. While the Debian project is free to refuse to choose what software, that's not what I meant :-) I obviously

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-28 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 09:53:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Dear mentors and games team, I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * URL : no website So you think having it debian native is a good thing? It builds these binary packages: counter-strike -

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-28 Thread Michael Gilbert
So you think having it debian native is a good thing? sure, why not? the guts of the program are so simple that i don't think it would really be that useful to set up a website or svn. in a sense www.steampowered.com perhaps should be considered the upsteam? this package is just a wrapper to

RFS: steam-powered

2007-08-27 Thread Michael Gilbert
Dear mentors and games team, I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * Package name: steam-powered Version : 5 Upstream Author : Michael Gilbert * URL : no website * License : gpl Section : contrib/games It builds these binary

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Just a few suggestions: 1) I'd add 'set -u' and 'set -e' to the top of steam-powered: I do this for every shell script I write. This might require some of the script to be re-written to cope with unbound variables, etc. 2) line 39: eval set -- $(getopt --quiet --alternative

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-29 Thread Rob Andrews
On 28-Jun-2007 03:52.00 (BST), Michael Gilbert wrote: Your package should also depends on wine and curl since your script use them. the control file already has dependencies on wine, curl, cabextract, whiptail, and catdoc, so i think this is ok? The Architecture entry in the control

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On 6/29/07, Rob Andrews wrote: The Architecture entry in the control file is any - wine is only available[0] on i386 and amd64, so build will fail on other architectures. You should match wine's Architecture line. i've now modified the control file so that the package will be built only for

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On 6/29/07, Jon Dowland wrote: Just a few suggestions: 1) I'd add 'set -u' and 'set -e' to the top of steam-powered: I do this for every shell script I write. This might require some of the script to be re-written to cope with unbound variables, etc. i've added set -u to the script.

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-27 Thread Gonéri Le Bouder
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:17:35PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Package name: steam-powered Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Michael Gilbert * URL : no web site * License : gpl for steam-powered script,

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-27 Thread Michael Gilbert
On 6/27/07, Ben Finney wrote: What license do you have for the package? non-free isn't a license, it's a descriptor. the entire contents of the steam-powered package are fully licensed under the GPL (there is no non-free content in the package). however, the steam-powered script does download

RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-26 Thread Michael Gilbert
Dear mentors and game maintainers, I am looking for a sponsor for my package steam-powered. * Package name: steam-powered Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Michael Gilbert * URL : no web site * License : gpl for steam-powered script, non-free for downloaded

Re: RFS: steam-powered

2007-06-26 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Package name: steam-powered Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Michael Gilbert * URL : no web site * License : gpl for steam-powered script, non-free for downloaded game and game data What license do you have for