Diederik de Haas: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf (via nm.debian.org)]

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This message is to state my support for Diederik de Haas' request to
become a Debian Developer, uploading.

It will probably look like very much like Diederik's other advocacy,
from Cyril Brulebois, as we have worked together in the same
team. Diederik has been part of the Raspberry Pi team at least since
late 2019 (according to my IRC logs). Several of our interactions, at
least since 2021, have been signed with the OpenPGP key
F5B143C162CC869A2E2EB32FD76E5BCE787EDB6E.

I have also been repeatedly surprised to find out he is not yet an
uploading DD, as he has long had everything needed to be one. He has
participated in correctly and sensibly in several issues regarding the
Raspberry Pi images -- from helping clean the build infrastructure to
pin-pointing kernel oddities.

I will be very happy to welcome Diederik as an uploading Debian
Developer soon!
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Filip Strömbäck: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf (via nm.debian.org)]

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I first came across Filip Strömbäck's (fi...@fprg.se) work two years ago, at the
online version of the SIGCSE (Computer Science Education Special Interest Group)
Posters session. He was showing a tool he wrote and released as free software I
found immensely useful for my teaching, progvis. I later understod this was just
an examplke program of a much larger, much more ambitious project called Storm
Language.

I encouraged Filip to help me package this tool for Debian. Not only he did
this, but he took the lead! He did most of the packaging with very little
hand-holding from me, sensibly split a complex project into several binary
packages with clearly defined roles and responsabilities, took care of weird
licensing interactions (including creating an upstream branch where progvis is
conditionally built without support for given graphics primitives as "skia" is
not available in Debian)... He even ported the x86_64 assembly part of the Storm
compiler to also support ARM64 at my request!

I know Filip will be a great Debian Maintainer, and I can only hope that in some
time he proceeds to be also interested in becoming a full DD. Please, grant him
upload right for his own packages, right now!
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Re: Christopher Obbard: Declaration of intent to become a DD, upl.

[Gunnar Wolf]

Christopher Obbard (via nm.debian.org) dijo [Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 08:09:20PM 
-]:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian
> Developer, uploading.
>
> I have worked on maintaining some packges for the past six months
> and I would like to be able to upload packages to the NEW queue
> without a sponsor.

Hello Christopher,

It is customary to give more information -- which kind of packages are
you interested in? Which teams or people have you most interacted
with? If directly uploading to NEW is an issue (I understand you are
already a DM), do you plan to introduce many new packages? What are
their unifying factors / why are you interested in them?

Greetings,

Re: Bernelle Verster: Declaration of intent to become a DD, non-upl.

[Gunnar Wolf]

Bernelle Verster (via nm.debian.org) dijo [Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 04:20:16PM 
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> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian 
> Developer, non-uploading.
> I have been asked and accepted to stay on the DebConf Committee, and 
> thus will need to change from emeritus to active status. 

FWIW, I know and have worked with Bernelle since 2016, when she was
part of the local organization team in Cape Town, South Africa. She is
a very enthusiastic member of DebConf, and has contributed a lot to
the DebConf Committee, with perspectives often different from the
other, more "traditional" Debian members that conform the Committee.

I am very happy to continue having her on debconf-ctte, and am more
than happy to welcome her again formally back in the project.


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Re: Endorsing Robin Jarry's key DC0718E322E2C7605EBDC83146957EC08FD0FE90

[Gunnar Wolf]

Nilesh Patra dijo [Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 10:08:09PM +0530]:
> > Please be a bit more specific. How many months is "past several
> > months"?
> 
> Since November last year (as I wrote in my advocacy too) so that
> would be around 8-9 months.

OK, thanks!

> > What does "a few mails" mean?
> 
> Their mails on mailing lists aren't signed unfortunately, but I check the 
> signatures in
> personal correspondence hence the phrase.

Thanks again!

> > What is a "long-term interaction"?
> 
> I suppose you/newmaint should answer this -- I did not type the last part,
> it is directly picked up from the nm template that I get when I click on 
> "Endorse"
> (As per my understanding, I took $long-term as the number of months that I 
> have worked with him)
> 
> Do you want me to re-declare an endorsement? (I mean, I could but it doesn't 
> add up much here)

I think the endorsement, together with your response, would still
work, but if you don't feel too much of a hassle to amend the text you
sent to NM with the precise details, I think it'd be better.

Maybe we should be clearer in the instructions. At least, I feel much
better when processing an endorsement if it has more precise
information; I feel 8-9 months to be enough; as for the personal
correspondence, maybe if you said "four personal mails sent over a
three month period", it would be better.

Yes, we have no clear guidelines. I'm just applyig what I feel to be
right (but then again, I am one of the people that has to act upon
endorsements ;-) )


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Re: Endorsing Robin Jarry's key DC0718E322E2C7605EBDC83146957EC08FD0FE90

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hello Nilesh,

Nilesh Patra (via nm.debian.org) dijo [Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 01:31:35PM -]:
> For the past several months, I have worked with Robin Jarry on buildbot and 
> aerc.
> (...)
> For this past work, Robin Jarry sent mails using the email address 
> ro...@jarry.cc
> which is the one they're using on nm.debian.org.
> 
> I have made the following checks for their keys:
> 
> 1. Checked a few mails for signatures in a lot of private correspondence we 
> have had
> 
> 2. Checked their signed commits to the repositories. I checked several of his 
> upstream project
>repositories releases (aerc,dlrepo,sysrepo-python etc.), which are all 
> signed with his gpg key.
> 
> 3. Made sure that they are able to decrypt the messages sent to them with 
> their GPG key
> 
> I've made sure that they are able to decrypt encrypted messages sent to this 
> key
> and that they're able to sign messages with the same key.
> 
> Due to the long-term interactions we had, I'm convinced that Robin Jarry as 
> they
> present themselves on nm.debian.org is the rightful owner of both email
> ro...@jarry.cc and GPG key DC07 18E3 22E2 C760 5EBD  C831 4695 7EC0 8FD0 FE90.

Please be a bit more specific. How many months is "past several
months"? What does "a few mails" mean? What is a "long-term
interaction"?

Thank you very much,


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Re: Endorsing xiao sheng wen's key 740D7FE2AB3143E86C8FD12300186602339240CB

[Gunnar Wolf]

*shuffles around the desk looking for his keyring-maint hat*

*finds the hat and puts it on his head*

Ehem...

Sam Hartman dijo [Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 11:00:30AM -0600]:
> It's very much about identity, but normally it's about identity in the
> sense of "I interacted with this person using this key for six months."
> 
> I guess there's nothing wrong with an endorsement for a single
> interaction, but my understanding is that in deciding to approve key
> consistency checks, front desk is looking for a long history with a key,
> so a one-time endorsement is unlikely to hold much value on our side.


I completely agree with Sam here. We can easily check whether a given
upload was signed by a given key.

However, as you know, the main way to assert your identity towards
Debian for a long-term commitment is... your GPG key. Key endorsements
were invented because of the difficulty to many of getting real-life
interactions with other developers, specially since the COVID-19
outbreak (but also due to living in a developer-space geographic
region).

We want endorsements to reflect you have had a real, meaningful
interaction WRT Debian with a {person,key} pair, helping assert that
said pair has held for a long enough time for Debian to grant
privileges to said person.

So... I would not be comfortable in accepting an identity assertion
based on a just-one-off endorsement.

Diederik de Haas: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf (via nm.debian.org)]

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I support Diederik de Haas 's request to become
a Debian Developer, non-uploading.  I have worked with Diederik de
Haas as part of the Raspberry Pi Debian support team for about two
years, and I consider them as having more than sufficient technical
competence (quite more than myself FWIW).

Diederik has provided several patches for fixing various issues both
in the raspi-firmware¹ and the scripts for creating the Raspberry Pi
images we distribute in raspi.debian.net², as well as in the project
web page itself³ — You can look for his work in the commit logs, but
also in the issues on the projects; his input has always been
insightful and kind.

¹ https://salsa.debian.org/debian/raspi-firmware/
² https://salsa.debian.org/raspi-team/image-specs/
³ https://salsa.debian.org/raspi-team/web-raspi-img/

I am very happy Diederik de Haas stepped forward and submitted his NM
application. I know he can be trusted to be a full member of Debian,
right now.
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Re: Phil Morrell: Declaration of intent to become a DD, non-upl.

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hello Phil,

> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> non-uploading.
> 
> I have been maintaining two contrib packages in the Games Team, and now taken
> on one main and 3 official backports. Debian has been my personal philosophy
> for about a decade, I am not going anywhere, though my actions do wax and 
> wane.
> I want to be a part of deciding Debian's future through DPL elections and GRs.

After reading the two mails that support so far your request, it grabs
my attention that both Norbert and Markus mention working with you on
activities that imply uploading -- "taking over the orphaned qalculate
packages", "packaging contributions for games", "technical work
accurate and correct"...

My question is, why not applying for uploading DD? It would seem to be
more consistent with your Debian involvement history!

Greetings,


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Re: Endorsing Gunnar Hjalmarsson's key F235A25E8A2A9718D7D8BDA36C79687A51F6608C

[Gunnar Wolf]

Pierre-Elliott Bécue dijo [Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 01:40:00PM +0100]:
> I'm afraid Gunnar didn't take the habit of signing his mail and side
> work, only his uploads of packages on Ubuntu repos. We'll have to see if
> Keyring Maintainers would be okay with you endorsing his new key relying
> on signed work he did in unbutu with his older one.
> 
> Not sure of their answer.

FWIW, in my opinion, key endorsements need to come from DDs, but don't
necessarily have to cover Debian work -- "I have played CryptoChess
with Suchand Such on a weekly basis for twelve years, and for three
years already, he has always used 0xDEAD00BEEF00" would be
valid -- it would be equivalent to what we get from a GPG
certification.

I would be more happy if the endorsement process mentioned
publicly-accessible artifacts... But I understand it is not a
requisite. 


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Re: Endorsing Gunnar Hjalmarsson's key F235A25E8A2A9718D7D8BDA36C79687A51F6608C

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hello all,

I am sorry I got late to the "party" with this discussion.

Just a recommendation on form - As I said, key endorsements are very
new, and we have a long way to follow to get them wrinkle-free.

> I've worked with Gunnar for 10 years now, mostly in Ubuntu but also in Debian 
> sponsoring ibus uploads for him.
> In that time he has interacted with me using key 
> F235A25E8A2A9718D7D8BDA36C79687A51F6608C. 
> Gunnar wishes now to apply to be a DD, and for that he needs an updaded 4096R 
> key.
> Travel is difficult currently, so after talking in private we decided to go
> down the endorsement (rather than signing) route.
> 
> Gunnar has published a transition statement on:
> 
>   https://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/gpg-transition-statement.txt.asc
> 
> this is signed with both the new key and the old one which I am satisfied is
> controlled by Gunnar.
> 
> Gunnar has also updated his Launchpad account to reference this key. I believe
> the Launchpad account is controlled only by Gunnar - and it also is the
> container for his upload rights to the Ubuntu archive.
> 
>   https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj
> 
> and the latest upload was signed using this key too
> 
>   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hirsute-changes/2020-December/006933.html

I noticed this due to me growing up with a name that does not match my
culture: I know for a fact that whoever calls a Gunnar is calling
me. So, having skipped the subject (I was just glancing through my
pending mails), I felt this meant me... Who do I know for ten years?
Who says I have worked in Ubuntu... What is that key?!

Yes, it took me two seconds to go to the subject line and recognize
that... I am not the only Gunnar in town. And also, there are links
with Gunnar Hjalmarsson's webpage. So, no, mails similar to this one
would not confuse people for long enough to be important. But I would
prefer if endorsement mails carried the full name of the endorsee
_within the GPG-signed portion_.

Greetings,

- That_other_Gunnar.


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Re: Endorsing Gunnar Hjalmarsson's key F235A25E8A2A9718D7D8BDA36C79687A51F6608C

[Gunnar Wolf]

Gunnar Hjalmarsson dijo [Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 01:10:34AM +0100]:
> > > > I have known Gunnar for years under the key
> > > > 
> > > >   0CFE 997B 7245 80A7 FA72  F8CF F0B1 10E7 5A69 2F32
> > > 
> > > I'm afraid Gunnar didn't take the habit of signing his mail and side
> > > work, only his uploads of packages on Ubuntu repos. We'll have to
> > > see if Keyring Maintainers would be okay with you endorsing his new
> > > key relying on signed work he did in unbutu with his older one.
> > > 
> > > Not sure of their answer.
> > 
> > In general I'm not a fan of key changes as part of AM processes; it is
> > much better to continue with an established key if there is no pressing
> > reason to change. A well known 2048R key trumps a new 4096R with no
> > cross signatures.
> 
> Thanks for that clarification, Jonathan! I created the new key solely
> because I thought it would strengthen my case with respect to endorsing. And
> now you say that the opposite is true.
> 
> Needless to say I can switch back to my old key and attach that one to my
> application instead. If that's what you recommend, can you please confirm
> and I'll accomplish the switch.

Yes, I also suggest you go back and complete the process with your
present key. Parallelly, build trust on your 4096R key (or a EC one,
or whatnot). And when your new key has been around and carrries enough
recognition, request the update, we (keyring-maint) will be happy to
do it.

Please understand key endoresements are a very new and not fully
proven and understood method to cope with a series of changes both in
the technical and the social infrastructure we live with. We have yet
to learn how to properly juggle with them.

> @Pierre-Elliott: That sounds as a 'door opener' to me and it would eliminate
> at least one of the reasons for your doubts, wouldn't it?

I certainly hope so!


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Re: Octavio Alvarez: Declaration of intent to become a DM

[Gunnar Wolf]

Octavio Alvarez dijo [Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 06:29:42PM -]:
> Hi! I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Maintainer.
> 
> I have worked on packages superkb and ipv6toolkit for a while. I am more
> comfortable with the Debian packaging process and tools. I know the package
> source for both well enough to be able to contribute upstream as well. My
> intention is to keep these packages in good shape by my own, this is, without
> having to take time away from a sponsor. This would also allow me to continue
> contributing to Debian more easily.

Finally!

I cannot advocate you, as I have never seen your technical work... But
I am very happy to see you request DM after long years of contributing
to Debian!

Re: Bernelle Verster: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Bernelle Verster dijo [Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:03:43PM -]:
> For nm.debian.org, at 2019-12-16:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> non-uploading.
> I have worked on DebConf organisation since 2016 and I would like to
> be able to contribute officially as a member of the DebConf
> Committee, which I have been elected for, and for which I need to be
> a DD.

I surely endorse Bernelle's request. We worked together for DC16, she
showed amazing energy and strength, and managed to endure our
community and our work pace. I was most happy this year to see her
again, and to see she was interested in getting more involved in
Debian. Am more than thrilled in her being part of the DebConf
Committee. 


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Clément Hermann: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

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This might be unorthodox, so I'm spelling it out here: I was a
"non-advocate" for Clément¹ (this is, I said I would have advocated
him if I had done technical work in Debian with him). FrontDesk
assigned him to me during DebConf, so that the process would be
expedited, and suggested us to talk face-to-face regarding Clément's
technical work, and keep a mail registry only about the P parts,
which we did.

¹ 
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20190721125049.gb15...@mosca.iiec.unam.mx

I completely stand by what I said. Clément is an active member of the
Go and Perl teams. He has also been part of the Tails distribution, a
privacy-oriented Debian derivative, for a long time.

He described to me the work he has been doing to get important
server/VM orchestration technologies (we prominently talked about lxd)
properly in Debian. He mentioned several "interesting" issues when
doing so.

I spent some time going through the bugs he has interacted with. He
very often provides either a full answer, or good technical insight in
them.

So, without further ado, I completely agree and subscribe that Clément
Hermann  can and should indeed be a Debian
Developer, uploading, right now.
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Re: Jonathan Bustillos: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Jonathan Bustillos dijo [Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 11:08:09PM -]:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer,
> non-uploading. I am using Debian since 2008 and I have helped in some
> teams like the Spanish Localization Team doing po.debconf templates
> translations since 2011. At the DebConfs I have attended since 2012
> (...)

FWIW, I pushed Jonathan to take this step and ask for an official
status recognition in Debian. Jonathan is a very motivated person, and
can present things in a very motivating fashion. I have attended
several activities where he has been among the organizers or
instigators, and he is always warm, welcoming and enthusiast.

He has contributed several debconf templates translations to Spanish.

Although I have witnessed he is technically knowledgeable, he is not
yet requesting to become an uploading DD - I know this will come in
due time...

He has been shy to step forward and get more directly involved in
teams, but I trust he will do so; he has participated in several
aspects of DebConf organization and running (mostly in the video team,
but also on the catering team at DC17), and is a keen volunteer.

I am sure Jonathan will increase his involvement in Debian, and
knowing him, I am also sure this will enable him to further inspire
other people to join the project.


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Re: Clément Hermann: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Clément Hermann dijo [Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 09:52:05PM -]:
> For nm.debian.org, at 2019-07-20:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> uploading.

About time!

> I also participated in the Alioth replacement Sprint [3], where it
> became clear to me that I needed to actually step up and start the
> NM process, since not being a DD actually made me less helpful.

Yes. NM is not about status. It's about being able to contribute more
and better.

> (Also, Holger has been bugging me about requesting this status
> change all night and wouldn't leave me alone until I did :P)

Do not yield to blind pressure. You could say, Holger bullied you into
NM. But, I'm quite happy he did.

I am *not* officially advocating you, as we have not worked
together. But, for the record, Clément has been a great, supporting
guy. He helped me out of a misery hole last year at DC17 when my
servers back home were undergoing hardware failure (and I was sad and
worried for two days). He has an excellent technical grasp and the
ability to diagnose problems, plus, he is a most compassionate member
of the community who goes out of his way for others to be able to
enjoy DebConf.

Please, somebody else, do advocate him!

Alban Vidal: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

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Six months ago, I was assigned to be Alban's AM. If the process
took this long, it's because I have been too busy and often took
up to a month in answering to his mails.

Alban's work as part of the Web team (French L10N( is good and
recognized by other members. And although Alban is a technical person
and manages way more complex installs than I do, he is choosing to be
a non-uploading DD because his area of action does not need greater
privileges — Understanding and agreeing to the "Principle of Least
Authority" is great!

Throughout our interview process, while Alban's answers were not
always perfect at the first try, he clearly understood all of the
needed points. Alban displays a clear understanding of the Debian
philosophy, and can interact with all of the important bits of the
project we mentioned.

I agree with the advocates, Alban Vidal can and should be a Debian
Developer (non-uploading, per his request) right now.
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Romain Perier: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf]

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I have worked with Romain Perier for some months (at least since
October 2018), debugging issues related to the (non-free)
raspi3-firmware package, where he kindly helped me put my head out of
a thick layer of sand. He has helped me with several issues regarding
the (unofficial) Debian preview image.

While there is clearly a lot of ground Romain has still to cover to
learn the nooks and crannies of Debian development, I see him as an
engaged person, and I am happy to state he would make a great Debian
Maintainer.

[ according to the recommendations in nm.debian.org, I will state: I
  am sending this message to advocate Romain Perier
   for DM process #585. Today is
  2019-01-28. ]
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Daniel Echeverry: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

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I have interacted with Daniel Echeverry for the last few months
(why months? Mainly because I have been too busy to give his
application the attention it required), and can now be fully
confident in recommending him to be a DD.

So, please: Daniel Echeverry  should be a
Debian Developer, uploading, right now.

Thanks!
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Nicolas Braud-Santoni: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf]

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I have worked with Nicolas mainly for DebConf organization for a couple of 
years. He
has proven to be knowledgeable, cool-tempered and very valuable for DebConf 
orga work.

Besides DebConf organization, I share with her an interest on the applications 
of
cryptography on the society at large, and we have exchanged many viewpoints. I 
take
her as a very knowledgeable person with clear, sane policies, interesting in 
pursuing
a stronger crypto culture for Debian and elsewhere.

While I have not uploaded nor reviewed nicoo's packages, I have been asked by 
her for
several issues - And I can assert that, at least, her practices go way over my 
own.

So, I clearly support Nicolas Braud-Santoni's request for becoming a DD, 
uploading.
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Re: Iñaki Martin Malerba: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Inaki Malerba dijo [Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 06:52:13PM -0300]:
> Hi Gunnar,
> 
> Thanks for your reply !
> After sending the _DD, uploading_ apply I realized the best way to start
> would be via DM first, so I applied there too. Should I cancel this form
> or just leave it there?

Yes, there were two very similar messages - And _both_ said DD
uploading! :-]

Anyway, a FrontDesk member can answer to this better. Can the
application be changed from DD to DM?


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Re: Iñaki Martin Malerba: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Iñaki Martin Malerba dijo [Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 06:13:16PM -]:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> uploading.
> I have worked on doit (salsa.debian.org/debian/doit) for a while and I would 
> like to collaborate in a more formal way.
> If this happens, I'd like to mantain docker.io package which has not been 
> updated for almost a year.

Hello,

FWIW, I see your contributions to this project are basically over the
past five weeks.

https://salsa.debian.org/ina-guest

It also springs to my attention that you want to maintain Docker.io; I
agree the package looks like it could use some love, but it somehow
feels you haven't yet got the grip of how current-day Debian
collaboration works - There is a Docker packaging team you could
join. Docker.io was last updated on on October (so, half a year
ago). Have you considered joining the Docker-maint team?

Note that I *completely* agree with your assessment that it needs love
- But your statement suggests a "hostile takeover". Please start by
getting in touch with the maintainer / uploaders, mentioned in the
package's tracker:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/docker.io

Docker-maint has a mailing list, which until now had half-decent
movement:

https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/docker-maint/

But sadly, as it was hosted in Alioth, the last announcement (sent
today) is basically closing it down:


https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/docker-maint/Week-of-Mon-20180402/000832.html

So, a good way for you to build more Debian skills is to join forces
with the team and find Docker.io some new loving in Salsa, fixing some
of its most salient bugs (it has 5 RCs), and... That would be great to
show on your DD application! ;-)




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Göran Weinholt: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

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Göran was a DD a long time ago, and retired originally because of lack
of time - he had to pay more attention to his university studies. This
was many years ago, and he is now returning motivated to work on Chez
Scheme, amateur (HAM) radio packaes, and... In his words, "it was fun
back then and it will be fun to get back".

We held an exchange of mails and, while he is no expect in every field
of Debian packaging (who is? I am not, for sure!) he is quite
proficient and motivated.

I am happy to recommend him to be admitted as a full DD with upload
rights.
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Re: Andrea Bolognani: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

> My sponsor's argument for going for DM at first rather than straight
> for DD was that, though I have been contributing to Debian for a long
> time, most of my work has been done in isolation and doesn't reach
> outside the comfort zone of the few packages I've been maintaining
> over the years.
> 
> In particular, I would probably not be able to line up more than one
> Advocate since I've been working with Niels exclusively for the past
> several years, and asking someone who's sponsored a few uploads 6+
> years ago for advocacy would be reaching quite a bit.
> 
> So the plan is to get DM now, then come back for DD after my
> involvement in Debian has broadened further.

(phone kbds all suck, sorry)

IMO that's orthpgpnal. DMs are somewhat forced into staying in their
comfort zone. Only DDs roam at will.

But anyway, welcome to the journey finally!

Re: Dd application: issues with my GPG key

[Gunnar Wolf]

> I just checked msameer's entry in the LDAP database, and it lists the A3FD0DF7
> key as his active key.
> Why then does the key checks say that my key is unsigned by a DD ?

Right:

$ git log */*A3FD0DF7
commit 7ce054f088ce5e687eca0b8fae6b86643c7f348d
Author: Jonathan McDowell 
Date:   Thu May 4 09:56:20 2017 +0100

Remove removed-keys.gpg and removed-1024.gpg keyrings

With the keyrings stored in git there is no reason to keep keys we
do not trust and do not intend to ever use again around. They can
be retrieved from the commit history if necessary. Remove all
infrastructure around maintaining these removed keyrings, and the
keys themselves.

Note that the key was already in a "meaningless" keyring since
01.01.2015 (commit 281f30c8).


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Re: Jerome Charaoui: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Sean Whitton dijo [Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 02:08:37PM -0700]:
> Packaging mistakes can be rectified, but rectifying them sucks volunteer
> time.  The reason why we expect highly trusted contributors to have a
> longer track record of packaging updates is to reduce the chance they'll
> make mistakes which cause work for other people.
> 
> Becoming someone who doesn't make common packaging mistakes just takes
> time and lots of uploads.  Not having that ability doesn't reflect on
> someone's general technical ability.

Umh... /methinks that this volunteer time sucking will happen
regardless of whether the person in question is a DM or a DD. The
number of botched uploads a DD can make is _usually_ n+1 the botched
uploads the same person would do being a DM (that is, a package gets
reviewed and access is granted to do unsupervised uploads).

Of course, a DD will be able to NMU. However, how often will a newbie
DD NMU something they are not familiar with? Or, uploading to
NEW... NEW gets reviewed no-matter-what, so that's not _so_ different.

People tend to get confident over time. I guess that's one of the
reasons I have made some of my mistakes: Because of not
triple-checking some stuff I would be checking otherwise. Say, I have
uploaded to backports something that was lacking quite a bit of
dependencies. Silly me. Or, as keyring-maint, I have often made
formatting errors in the git log (which we consume for some automated
tasks) requiring me to rewrite history. Both are things that Should
Not Happen™, but happen nevertheless. I guess that if I were a new DD,
I would be more careful.

I understand your point and won't argue more about it — But what I am
stating is... There is no clear point as to where a person has "done
enough" to be trusted to be careful not to botch too much. I can
assert the level of care I have observed in this person's interactions
is high enough that I trust he won't be a serial upload botcher ;-)


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Re: Allison Randal: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

ChangZhuo Chen dijo [Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:41:59PM -]:
> For nm.debian.org, at 2017-08-10:
> After looking at Allison Randal 's contributions and 
> after exchanging some emails to
> get to know them a bit better, I agree with the advocate(s) that Allison 
> Randal  can
> and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now.

After being Allison one of the people I strongly looked up to in the
Perl community, many many years ago, I am more than happy to have her
fully join our most select club :-]

Re: Jerome Charaoui: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Sorry for taking so long to reply to this mail. I hope my input is
still useful now.

Mattia Rizzolo dijo [Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 02:40:18PM +0200]:
> (...)
> Whilst I can see how contributing in the DebConf orga is a huge
> contribution to our community, I question your technical abilities.  Of
> the two advocacies, one said nothing about technical aspects, and the
> other is a generic "he is a DM => he has the needed background";
> besides, neither of them sponsored his uploads.
> 
> Having upload rights to the Debian archives means you will then be able
> to upload everything, and whilst I don't expect everybody to be able to
> understand everything, I do expect all DDs to have enough knowledge and
> abilities to be able to "find their way" in most packages, ability that
> I do not believe you have publicly proved.
> 
> I'm more than happy to be proved wrong.

Being one of the people you mention, I'll quote myself:

I have to say that I have *not* done any technical,
packaging-oriented work with Jerome, but the fact that he is
committed enough to the project and that I'm recommending him to
be a DD for his non-technical contributions, together with the
awareness that he is a Debian Maintainer already, makes me be sure
and recommend him to become a full DD *with* upload rights.

With this, I do mean I trust him to have full upload rights, and I
stand by it.

Jerome has proven he knows what Debian is about, and he believes in
it. He has also proven to be a man of criteria. A problem solver. A
guy who can defuse an escalating fight. Our work together organizing
DebConf more than supports that.

I have not seen a line of code written by him... But let me put this
appreciation in a different light than yours: I know Jerome has been
trusted to have limited upload rights, and he has modest experience in
doing so. Most probably, were it not because he was running a complex
conference, he would have got more time to do technical work.

By taking the decisions he took (and standing by them) during the
DebConf organization, I can assure you he will not be irresponsible
with whatever powers we grant him. I could happily and at ease leave a
printout or a digital copy of my private key material at his home, and
I'm sure that –other than his kids becoming rogue about it– I'd have
nothing to fear.

I am sure that, when granted full DD rights, Jerome will not go
berserk and upload a trojaned Linux kernel. Will he make minor
packaging errors? I'm sure he would. I'm sure I have done them. Then,
when I noticed, I fixed them promptly; I am sure Jerome will unscrew
whatever he wrongly screws up.

So, I stand by what I said: If that's what he is aiming for, I trust
Jerome to be a full DD *with* upload rights.


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Jerome Charaoui: Advocate

[Gunnar Wolf]

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I have worked with Jerome towards the organization for DebConf17; our 
collaboration began
well before DC16, and he has proven to be an accessible, responsible, mature 
and devoted
Debian enthusiast. His work has been instrumental to hosting DebConf in 
Montreal,
particularly at his workplace. That, by itself, makes me recommend him for 
becoming a
full member of the Debian project.

I have to say that I have *not* done any technical, packaging-oriented work 
with Jerome,
but the fact that he is committed enough to the project and that I'm 
recommending him
to be a DD for his non-technical contributions, together with the awareness 
that he is a
Debian Maintainer already, makes me be sure and recommend him to become a full 
DD *with*
upload rights.
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Jeremy Bicha: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

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I have reviewed Jeremy Bicha's answers for the NM process, and am more
than satisfied by them. I have also been approached in DebConf by his
team mates, who very strongly recommended him as a DD. I am of the
opinion the project will win quite a bit having him as a full DD with
unimpended upload rights.
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Re: Adrian Alves: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

> For nm.debian.org, at 2017-01-08:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Maintainer.
> I have worked on python stopit for a while and I would like to be able to 
> continue working with other python team packages

But then again,

> For nm.debian.org, at 2017-01-08:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> uploading.
> I have worked on grokmirror medusa python-cluster for a while and I would 
> like to be able to main taince those as dd

Adrián, which one should be considered?

FWIW, I met Adrian some weeks ago in Argentina. I cannot advocate him,
as I have not talked in any technical level yet with him, but I can
clearly state he is an enthusiast Debian contributor, and I believe it
is worth considering him for this change of status so he can directly
contribute. We only need to know whether Adrián is currently wanting
to become a DM or a DD.

When we talked, he told me he wanted to become a DM for later applying
to be a DD — But given he told me he has been contributing for a long
time, I told him being a DM for some time is *not* a necessary
step. But, of course, Adrián — Your decision.


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Re: Raoul Snyman: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Raoul Snyman dijo [Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 06:57:42PM -]:
> For nm.debian.org, at 2016-12-15:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Maintainer.
> I have worked on the openlp package for a few years, and Stefano Rivera 
> suggested I apply for DM status in order to upload the package myself. I also 
> wish to package one or two more Python modules.

(Not signing, as this is not a technical endorsement; I have never
worked technically with Raoul)

Raoul has shown enough interest and committment to Debian to be a very
active member of the DebConf16 local team. Whoever agrees to put up
with *that* should be granted upload rights, no questions asked :-]

Cheers and hope to have you on board soon!

Sean Whitton: Application Manager report

[Gunnar Wolf]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Sean is clearly more than ready to become a Debian Developer,
uploading. His skillset and professionalism are quite impressive, and
he deals with many different areas of Debian. He has triaged bugs,
written documentation, packaged simple and quite complicated software,
helps mentoring, etc. In our short (in our number of exchanges, not so
much in time chiefly because of my own time constraints) interview, he
surprised me with his attention to detail and knowledge about Debian
processes; after a long hiatus as an AM, it would be more than fair to
say I learnt more about Debian's practices than he did.

I completely endorse him and expect to see him become a full DD very
soon.
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Version: GnuPG v1

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Re: Michael Shuler: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Michael Shuler dijo [Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 04:07:39AM -]:
> I would like to apply to change my status in Debian to Debian Developer, 
> uploading.
> 
> I have been a contributor to Debian for quite a few years and this is long 
> overdue :)

I want to comment the same as Holger — I took for granted you were a
DD already. Great thing you are taking this step, I trust the process
will be quick and easy for you!

I'm only replying to this message because you sent *two* different
request (I'm including both in my reply), one to become a DM and one
to become a DD-Uploading. Which one are you applying to?

And, as Holger commented, I'm not formally endorsing your application,
as I haven't directly worked with you... But from you being so long
close to the project, and with the packages you maintain... I guess
you should be aiming to DD.


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Re: Unit 193: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:58:49AM +]:
> > But, again, find two DDs with active keys in the keyring with personal
> > policies different than mine, and I will accept it. Hell, I won't even
> > be able to know about it :)
> 
> while I appreciate that you accept keys signed with other policies than
> yours, I don't think keyring maintainers should be willing to accept
> *all* signatures done by DDs. 
> 
> (And I do see the problem that you cannot know everything…)

Ack

> But still, if you *hear* some signatures have been done under fishy
> circumstances, I *do* think you should object.
> 
> Else I^wsomeones may be tempted to try to game the system…
> 
> IOW: please don't state you'd be willing to accept *any* signatures done
> by two DDs… maybe just adding a single word and saying "you'd *almost* be
> willing…" is enough to make the difference I think is important here.
> 
> I fully understand your POV but if I were to take a similar stance,
> namely "I will sign any key presented under any ID to me, because I have
> no means whatsoever to properly verify IDs anyway" and if there then
> were several DDs with that policy… I dont think that would be good. And
> it would be worse if our keyring maintainers were to accept those IDs
> into Debian.

Just for the record: I agree with Holger here. We expect every Debian
Project Member to be a responsible user of their key, and that
includes not blindly signing anybody's key. We do not currently have a
policy on what to do in the event somebody is known to misuse the
trust model we work with, but I think that a key used improperly could
very well be treated as if it had been compromised, and removed from
the keyring (as happened many years ago, when many people were storing
their .gnupg/secring.gpg in project machines).

In short: The system can be gamed. We assume good will and best
intentions from Debian people. Bad intentions will be punished.


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Re: Unit 193: Declaration of intent

[Gunnar Wolf]

Christian Kastner dijo [Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 07:45:36PM +0200]:
> On 2016-07-13 10:16, Filippo Rusconi wrote:
> > To the community : Should we accept pure pseudo "identifications" in
> > Debian ?
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't care about the pseudonym, but I would very much
> care about an in-person meeting.
> 
> There was a longer thread about this on -project last year:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2015/02/msg00017.html

Absolutely. But signing somebody's ID is done out of personal
policy. I always make clear to people how my personal signing policy
differs from some other people's (and why I am sometimes flexible upon
what I say, if the reality pushes that way). Signing an identity must
mean that you verified the identity in a nontrivial way. Signing
somebody you have not directly interacted with at all is wrong in my
eyes.

But, again, find two DDs with active keys in the keyring with personal
policies different than mine, and I will accept it. Hell, I won't even
be able to know about it :)


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Re: Report for 'Debian Developer, uploading' applicant Josué Ortega

[Gunnar Wolf]

Santiago Ruano Rinc\xf3n via nm dijo [Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 03:02:35PM -]:
> Hello,
> 
> I recommend to accept Josué Ortega as a new Debian Developer, uploading.
> The account name is josue.

I am very happy to have Josué on board finally now! I have not done
any technical work with him (hence no prior endorsement from me), but
know him personally, and know of his links to the Central American
communities. It is great to have him as a full DD!

Re: LDAP accounts for DMs

[Gunnar Wolf]

Ian Jackson dijo [Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:19:19PM +]:
 (...)
 As I understand it the correct way to implement this would be for DMs
 to have accounts in LDAP.  (Presumably flagged in some appropriate way
 so that they don't get more permissions than necessary.)
 
 Is this something that DSA and DM-keyring are happy with ?  If so, how
 can we make it happen ?

The workflow for keyring would be quite similar to what we currently
have, and maybe it would even simplify some details such as retaining
permissions after a key migration. So I would not object to it. But
then again, AFAICT implementing this is completely outside of our
hands (we would only need minor adjustements to our scripts).


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Advocacy for Tássia Camões Araújo

[Gunnar Wolf via nm]

Hello,

I advocate Tássia Camões Araújo to become Debian Developer, non-uploading.
Advocacy text:

I met Tássia nine years ago, and have worked year after year with her for 
DebConf organization. She is a really centered, dilligent person, always 
willing to work, trustworthy and intelligent. As part of the responsability she 
is now starting to exercise as a (not yet official as she is not a DD) DebConf 
chair, she is really showing skills in preventing conflicts and analyzing our 
problematic workflows.

I strongly advocate Tássia to be a non-uploading DD. The only thing that 
bothers me about her request is that we didn#39;t receive it several years ago.

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Re: AM report for Jacob Appelbaum

[Gunnar Wolf]

Moritz Muehlenhoff dijo [Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:42:10PM +0200]:
 Jacob Appelbaum is a a perfect match for Debian both in terms of
 technical skills and in terms of compatibility with ours spirit and
 free software values.
 
 I thus recommend Jacob as a Debian Developer.
 
 1. Identification  Account Data
 
First name:  Jacob
Middle name: -
Last name:   Appelbaum
Account: ioerror
 
 2. Background
 -
 (...)

I am very glad Jacob is finally joining the Debian ranks. Yes, I know
the time for advocating his request is long over, but I have been
waiting for his request to be approved for quite a bit. Having met
Jacob back in 2008 in DebConf 8 was a great experience, and although I
have not followed him much, it often struck me that he was not yet in
here. So, welcome, and let me preemptively thank you for all the great
work you will do in Debian :)


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Re: Advocacy for Jari Aalto

[Gunnar Wolf]

Jakub Wilk dijo [Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:12:20AM +0200]:
 * Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr, 2013-05-21, 21:52:
 I think Jari would be a very valuable asset in Debian, and that he
 should be made DD.
 
 I very much disagree.

Please, if you disagree with an advocacy, do so with more arguments
than this.


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Re: Advocacy for Patty Langasek

[Gunnar Wolf]

Clint Adams via nm dijo [Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:29:25PM -]:
 Hello,
 
 I advocate Patty Langasek to become non-uploading DD.
 Advocacy text:
 (...)

Wow, this is very good news! Two people I have worked with and
consider very much worth advocating in the same day!

Patty has been a repeating DebConf volunteer, each time taking more
formal steps to become part of the formally organizer team. She is
also part of the DebConf14 Portland team. She is often a voice of
reason, something sorely needed during the DebConf organization
cycle. We were talking some two weeks ago, and I strongly encouraged
her to become a non-uploading-DD. I am very glad she did, and I am
sure she will be a very important DebConf organizing team member - And
fellow DD. 



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AM report for James Downing Page

[Gunnar Wolf]

I recommend to accept James Downing Page as a Debian Developer.

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  James
   Middle name: Downing
   Last name:   Page
   Key fingerprint: AB23E9A98422889E08C3838CBFECAECBA0E7D8C3
   Account: jamespage

2. Background
-

James is an active Debian Maintainer, and he has been for almost a
year and a half. All of the work I saw from him shows solid, good
understanding of Debian, both philosophically and technically.

I would venture to say James is not so personally outgoing as others,
as he limited his answers to technical matters ;-) So instead of the
personal history, he jumps right into the technical details of his
work. He writes:

  I maintain 57 packages as part of the Debian Java team; these
  support three key applications - Jenkins, Lucene/Solr 3 and
  Zookeeper.

  I packaged Jenkins (and its numerous new dependencies) from scratch
  in 2011/2012 (it landed in Ubuntu first); I picked up zookeeper when
  it was orphaned by its previous maintainer in July 2011; I pickup
  bugs from both Debian and Ubuntu for both of these packages (+
  deps).

  (...)

  Yes; the work I did on the Ubuntu Java 6-7 transition still has
  quite a few outstanding (as Debian has not undertaken this for
  wheezy):

  
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=openjdk-7-transition;users=ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com

  (...)

  I'm a member of the Debian Java team; I've worked with Neils
  Thykier, Tony Mancill and Damien Raude-Morvan as part of my
  involvement in that team.

  Not done a DebConf yet - hope to get to the next one; Occasional
  participation in ML's (debian-java) and on irc in #debian-java as
  well.

  I have some upstream involvement in python-jenkins; I'm active in
  both Openstack and Ceph communities through my work in Ubuntu.

I was very happy with James' answers throughout the AM interview, and
I'm somewhat ashamed I did not devote more time to handling the
request faster. Anyway, here it goes — I clearly recommend to accept
James Downing Page as a Debian Developer.


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Re: DM application of Tom Marble

[Gunnar Wolf]

Tom Marble dijo [Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 09:26:06AM -0600]:
 All:
 
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer [0].
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 I have collaborated with the Java Packaging Team for years
 and, finally, am working on updating the versions of JRuby
 and OpenRocket (and their dependencies).
 
 My GnuPG 0x40BFEE868B055D9A is signed by many Debian Developers.
 In fact I think it's possible that I may have the DM application
 with lowest MSD (1.717 as of DebConf12 [0]).
 
 I am thrilled to become a Debian Maintainer. Thanks for your attention.

I'll also join to Holger's answer: I cannot speak for Tom technically,
but I do know he is long-term interested and committed to Debian, have
seen him several times at DebConf. I know he has mentored Debian
projects for the GSoC, given some interesting Java-related talks (and
having something interesting and Java-related at the same time is
almost a NOOP for me!)

So, Tom, I'm not signing this mail (as it should not be seen as a
formal endorsement, as I don't know your job technically). But I hope
your passage as a DM is short, and you soon become a DD :)


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AM report for Anton Gladky

[Gunnar Wolf]

I recommend to accept Anton Gladky as a Debian Developer.

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Anton
   Middle name: -
   Last name:   Gladky
   Key fingerprint: BBBD 45EA 818A B86F F67E  7285 D3E1 7383 CFA7 FF06
   Account: gladk

2. Background
-

Anton writes as his introduction:

   I started to use GNU/Linux in 2007, installing Ubuntu on my laptop.
   Since then I was trying to replace my favorite applications, which
   I used under another operation system, by free analogues.

   Right now I am doing a research work at the University and all of
   my main specific software (mostly for discrete element method
   simulations) are working only under GNU/Linux. I use Debian and
   derivatives because they have all necessary packages for installing
   my DEM-software.

   I maintain packages, which directly or indirectly connected to my
   work.
   Some of them are: gnuplot, freecad, paraview, gmsh, yade etc.
   I am trying to keep them in a good shape.

   I plan to continue my activity for Debian especially under Debian
   Science Team, bringing new and orphaning an existing packages.

From our interaction, I found Anton as a very worthy prospective
DD. Most of his work is done with the Debian-Science team, and many of
his packages are adopted from previous maintainers; even though some
do have several open bugs and issues, he answered to my complete
satisfaction as to why this status holds - It is more due to being a
responsible maintainer and trying not to break software with lots of
users being close to or already under a freeze. Anton has work in
Experimental fixing several of the mentioned problems.

I fully recommend Anton to be accepted as a DD.



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Re: Advocacy for Leandro Gómez

[Gunnar Wolf]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor via nm dijo [Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:26:05AM -]:
 Hello,
 
 I advocate Leandro Gómez to become non-uploading DD.
 Advocacy text:
 (...)

There are many, many reasons to advocate Leandro to become part of
Debian. I also subscribe Daniel's. Having worked with him for
different community-building projects (mainly ECSL 2009, one of the
most amazing Free Software encounters I have ever seen, and of course
DebConf12), I wholeheartedly advocate him as well, and expect him to
become a DD soon.


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Advocacy for Cédric Boutillier

[Gunnar Wolf via nm]

Hello,

I advocate Cédric Boutillier to become uploading DD.
Advocacy text:

I'll join David in adding my extraoficial advocacy here. I have been
working with Cédric as part of the pkg-ruby-extras team. He is a very
active, technically competent team member, often pushing us to upload
packages faster than we can react. A nice guy to work with, and surely
a welcome addition to the project!

Hope to see him soon as a DD.

[via Enrico adding 20120604170308.gf6...@gwolf.org to the nm.d.o site]

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Re: Advocacy for Cédric Boutillier

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Antonio Terceiro via nm dijo [Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:09:36PM -]:
 Hello,
 
 I advocate Cédric Boutillier to become uploading DD.
 Advocacy text:
 (…)

I'll join David in adding my extraoficial advocacy here. I have been
working with Cédric as part of the pkg-ruby-extras team. He is a very
active, technically competent team member, often pushing us to upload
packages faster than we can react. A nice guy to work with, and surely
a welcome addition to the project!

Hope to see him soon as a DD.


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Re: AM report for Mònica Ramírez Arceda

[Gunnar Wolf]

Luke Faraone dijo [Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:53:06PM -0500]:
 1. Identification  Account Data
 
First name:  Mònica
Middle name: Ramírez
Last name:   Arceda
Key fingerprint: 403A CC08 5210 5B23 34EF 153E 1EFE B180 1A49 C0D2
Account: monica
Forward email:   mon...@probeta.net
 (…)
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Mònica as a Debian Developer.

I have not technically worked with Mònica. I just met her at DebConf11
where we had some nice chats. Still, even if our interaction has been
100% at the social level I'm very happy she is joining us!


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Re: Question about gpg key.

[Gunnar Wolf]

Boris Pek dijo [Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:02:28AM +0200]:
  I have read all related documentation before send the message.
  Procedure [4] affects only DD. But I am not even DM now.
  And it seems like the key of a sponsored maintainer does not matter and it 
  can
  be changed in any moment. Because only one important thing in upload to the 
  main
  repo is the sign of sponsor (DD) which is checked by bot.
  Correct me if I am wrong.
 
  That's why I asked the question.
 
 In other words.
 Should I sign my new key by old one or make any other action?
 Or can I just use new key as it is?

 keyring-maint hat on 

Sorry for the delay, as I should have answered to your question
earlier on.

Yes, if you want to get closer to Debian (that is, be able to do any
uploads by yourself), you _do_ need to move to a 4096R key. But, as to
this specific question: If you are not interested in becoming DM or
DD, nobody will object - If I were to be your sponsor, I could do
everything without you even having a GPG key. A sponsor must not
blindly build and upload, but check everything as if it were his own
package. (Of course, once you have a working relation with a DD/DM
that sponsors you, _and_ you use a GPG key regardless of its strength,
said DD/DM will start trusting your work)

But anyway - Create a new key. Try to get it signed. Even if the old
one has many signatures, start getting people (specially those better
connected) to sign the new one. *Do* sign the new key with the old
one, to ensure people who already know you it is still you doing
this.


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Re: AM report for Tanguy Ortolo

[Gunnar Wolf]

Ana Guerrero dijo [Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:20:29AM +0100]:
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:37:14AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
  
     I didn't explicitly ask Tanguy for his formation and personal
     history, as I didn't really feel it as something needed — and
     asking him who are you after the AM process is basically done
     does not seem that would add much to it. But as to who he is, I
     asked some Internet oracles, and found a person clearly committed
     to Free Software and to Debian in particular.
  
  Thats a shame, without this section I feel that AM reports become
  almost content-free and not worth reading.
 
 Agreed.

Oh - Well, I won't skip it in the future. Thanks, Tanguy, for
providing it!


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AM report for Tanguy Ortolo

[Gunnar Wolf]

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Tanguy
   Last name:   Ortolo
   Key fingerprint: 240B BA15 B694 DD00 E380  30D8 D6EF A6AC 4B10 D847
   Account: tanguy
   Forward email:   tan...@ortolo.eu

   ID check passed, key signed by many existing developers:

   Output from keycheck.sh:

   pub   4096R/4B10D847 2010-04-14
  Key fingerprint = 240B BA15 B694 DD00 E380  30D8 D6EF A6AC 4B10 D847
uid  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 1985-10-02, 
POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig! 797EBFAB 2010-11-02  Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org
sig!307F89BB8 2010-11-01  Ludovico Gardenghi gar...@acheronte.it
sig! 58A23DE9 2010-11-02  Vincent Legout vinc...@legout.info
sig! 464B8DE3 2010-11-04  Xavier Oswald xosw...@debian.org
sig! 6D866396 2010-11-01  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 33E749FC 2010-11-01  Damien Raude-Morvan draz...@drazzib.com
sig! 929D42C3 2010-11-01  Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@openics.org
sig!34B10D847 2010-09-28  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-09-28  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-11-01  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
uid  Tanguy Ortolo tan...@ortolo.eu
sig! 797EBFAB 2010-11-02  Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org
sig!307F89BB8 2010-11-01  Ludovico Gardenghi gar...@acheronte.it
sig!311691130 2010-11-01  Georges Khaznadar (Organisation for Free 
Software in Education and Teaching) georg...@ofset.org
sig! 58A23DE9 2010-11-02  Vincent Legout vinc...@legout.info
sig! 464B8DE3 2010-11-04  Xavier Oswald xosw...@debian.org
sig! 7C5BB6A5 2011-05-12  Olivier Berger ober...@ouvaton.org
sig! 6D866396 2010-11-01  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 33E749FC 2010-11-01  Damien Raude-Morvan draz...@drazzib.com
sig! F2AC729A 2010-11-01  Raphaël Hertzog raph...@ouaza.com
sig! 49881AD3 2010-05-31  Stéphane Glondu st...@glondu.net
sig! 929D42C3 2010-11-01  Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@openics.org
sig!20ED6122A 2010-11-21  Serafeim Zanikolas s...@debian.org
sig!34B10D847 2010-04-14  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-11-01  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-09-28  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-04-14  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
uid  Tanguy Ortolo (Debian) tanguy+deb...@ortolo.eu
sig! 797EBFAB 2010-11-02  Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org
sig!307F89BB8 2010-11-01  Ludovico Gardenghi gar...@acheronte.it
sig!311691130 2010-11-01  Georges Khaznadar (Organisation for Free 
Software in Education and Teaching) georg...@ofset.org
sig! 58A23DE9 2010-11-02  Vincent Legout vinc...@legout.info
sig! 464B8DE3 2010-11-04  Xavier Oswald xosw...@debian.org
sig! 7C5BB6A5 2011-05-12  Olivier Berger ober...@ouvaton.org
sig! 6D866396 2010-11-01  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 33E749FC 2010-11-01  Damien Raude-Morvan draz...@drazzib.com
sig! F2AC729A 2010-11-01  Raphaël Hertzog raph...@ouaza.com
sig! 49881AD3 2010-05-31  Stéphane Glondu st...@glondu.net
sig! 929D42C3 2010-11-01  Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@openics.org
sig!20ED6122A 2010-11-21  Serafeim Zanikolas s...@debian.org
sig!34B10D847 2010-04-14  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
sig!34B10D847 2010-11-01  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, France)
uid  Tanguy Ortolo (Ubuntu) tanguy+ubu...@ortolo.eu
sig! 797EBFAB 2010-11-02  Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org
sig!307F89BB8 2010-11-01  Ludovico Gardenghi gar...@acheronte.it
sig!311691130 2010-11-01  Georges Khaznadar (Organisation for Free 
Software in Education and Teaching) georg...@ofset.org
sig! 58A23DE9 2010-11-02  Vincent Legout vinc...@legout.info
sig! 464B8DE3 2010-11-04  Xavier Oswald xosw...@debian.org
sig! 6D866396 2010-11-01  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 33E749FC 2010-11-01  Damien Raude-Morvan draz...@drazzib.com
sig! F2AC729A 2010-11-01  Raphaël Hertzog raph...@ouaza.com
sig! 49881AD3 2010-05-31  Stéphane Glondu st...@glondu.net
sig! 929D42C3 2010-11-01  Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@openics.org
sig!20ED6122A 2010-11-21  Serafeim Zanikolas s...@debian.org
sig!34B10D847 2010-04-14  Tanguy Pierre Charles Philippe Ortolo (DOB: 
1985-10-02, POB: Paris 14e, 

Re: DM application of Cédric Boutillier

[Gunnar Wolf]

Cédric Boutillier dijo [Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:27:13PM +0200]:
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer.
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 I subscribed to debian-devel-announce and debian-devel mailing lists.
 (...)

I support and advocate Cédric's application to become a DM. I have
worked with him on the pkg-ruby-extras team - In fact, he is making a
better job at maintaining some packages that badly needed love and I
have left aside for a generic later (repackaging/updating
libprawn-ruby and its newer dependencies), so he is outperforming me
in my duties ;-)

I have reviewed (few, but some of) his packages, and they are well
made, with good quality. He will be a good addition to Debian.


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Re: on the M of NM

[Gunnar Wolf]

Thomas Goirand dijo [Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:21:06PM +0800]:
  Because NM is what people are already used to, it's part of the Debian
  culture about joining. Overloading that, preexisting, acronym is sort of
  the maximum change we can do preserving backward compatibility, but
  still bringing existing processes closer to the correct (according to
  Constitution and GR) terminology.
 
  I'm not saying we should only do backward compatible changes, a more
  general reform of terminology might be good. But I AOL the many comments
  that perfect should not be the enemy of the good: let's do this one and
  improve over the status quo. (I.e.: your brainstorm is welcome, but
  let's avoid that it gets in the way of smaller, less invasive,
  improvements.)
 
  Cheers.

 In this case, I'll have to voice my concern again that I really fear
 that it's going to be even more confusing if we change the words
 behind the abbreviation only (nobody will know about this change if
 we don't advertize it enough).
 
 Also, I don't get why you are writing that changing names for DD/DM
 will deserve a GR and constitution review, when changing from NM to
 NM wouldn't. Is it because NM isn't written into the stones of the
 constitution?

I am here with Thomas. Yes, the NM process is known, both by initials
and by full name. I think just doing a s/Maintainer/Member/ would be
similar to adding an epoch version to it. People would be as confused
by following NM 0:* than by following NM 1:*.

If we want to make things clear, rather than sticking to old and
confusing name schemes (that reflected reality back where you were
either a Developer/Member/Maintainer or nothing at all), is to abandon
old namings and come up with new ones.

And if it needs a constitutional amendment, well, so be it. If we come
up with clear reasoning and naming, I don't expect it to fail. Yes,
it's more bureaucratic, but there's a reason for the process to
exist. Precisely, to make us all DDs 1) think it over until it's a
good enough proposal and 2) participate even if we don't follow the
relevant mailing list. Having your proposal go through a GR will get
the input of more DDs, give everybody the opportunity to comment on
it, and inform all of them on the outcome.


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Re: on the M of NM

[Gunnar Wolf]

Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 04:45:26PM +0200]:
  Also, I don't get why you are writing that changing names for DD/DM
  will deserve a GR and constitution review, when changing from NM to
 
 I didn't write that.
 
 [ and this is likely my last post in this sub-thread, unless new
   evidence/arguments appear ]

(umh... If you didn't, please disregard my last mail - I've
half-followed the thread, and answered somewhat impulsively. Or better
yet, regard it only where it makes sense and discard the gibberish ;-) )


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Re: AM report for Antonio Terceiro

[Gunnar Wolf]

Jan Hauke Rahm dijo [Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 02:15:32PM +0200]:
 1. Identification  Account Data
 
First name:  Antonio
Last name:   Terceiro
Key fingerprint: B2DE E660 36C4 0829 FCD0  F10C FC0D B1BB CD46 0BDE
Account: terceiro
Forward email:   terce...@softwarelivre.org
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Antonio as a Debian Developer.

YES. Yes, yes, yes. Thanks, Hauke, for going through Terceiro's
long due application. He will be a very worthy DD. He is now more
active than many of us :)

Greetings,


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Re: When to update public key?

[Gunnar Wolf]

Thomas Goirand dijo [Sat, May 07, 2011 at 04:49:52PM +0800]:
 On 05/07/2011 10:42 AM, Andres Mejia wrote:
  Thank you. I did have some concern that my NM application would be
  rejected because of my old key. It is a 1024 bit key and it's only
  signed by a single person. I saw that someone else had his application
  rejected for what looks to be a reason which is similar to my
  situation. See [1]. My new key however is 4096 bits and signed by
  several people to include one DD. I had trouble convincing these same
  people to sign my old key.
   
 I don't see why the NM would stop for such a reason, as you are identified
 already, however, you might run into trouble to have your 1024 bits key
 uploaded to the keyring. I would suggest you to get your new 4096 bits
 key signed by more DD if possible, so when you finish the NM process,
 you at least have a solution.

FWIW, as keyring-maint, I agree with Thomas here. If you already
started your NM process and your key was accepted for identification,
when you finish NM, DAM will request us to add your key to the
keyring. We might not love adding a new 1024D key, but we will do it
(as we trust the process started before the deadline we set).

You can otherwise also ask your AM to re-do the identification part
with your new key - The process will be up to him. In any case, if he
accepted your 1024D key, you can present a mail signed with your OLD
key, stating the full fingerprint for both keys and the reasons for
the change. Do this when the new key has already been signed by a DD.

Please note that, although your key can be accepted as new with only
one signature, in order to replace your key we require two (to protect
your identity to be stolen by a single evil-minded DDs. Yes, we do
have evil-minded DDs!)


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Re: [NM-AM] NM process for Aron Xu

[Gunnar Wolf]

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Aron
   Last name:   Xu
   Key fingerprint: 3A9E 7D14 9697 510A 3E37  CD95 C38E 8160 A178 41FE
   Account: aron
   Forward email:   happyaron...@gmail.com

   ID check passed, key signed by one existing developer. Aron is
   aware he should get more signatures, but due to his geographical
   location (Jilin province, China, 2000Km away from the nearest DD)
   has so far been unable to do so.
   Output from keycheck.sh:

$ ./keycheck.sh 3A9E7D149697510A3E37CD95C38E8160A17841FE
gpg: requesting key A17841FE from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
pub   4096R/A17841FE 2010-10-04
  Key fingerprint = 3A9E 7D14 9697 510A 3E37  CD95 C38E 8160 A178 41FE
uid  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
sig! 6D67F790 2010-11-25  Anthony Fok f...@debian.org
sig!3A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
uid  Aron Xu (GNOME) aro...@gnome.org
sig! 6D67F790 2010-11-25  Anthony Fok f...@debian.org
sig!3A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
uid  Aron Xu (Ubuntu) happya...@ubuntu.com
sig! 6D67F790 2010-11-25  Anthony Fok f...@debian.org
sig!3A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
uid  Aron Xu (Fedora) a...@fedoraproject.org
sig! 6D67F790 2010-11-25  Anthony Fok f...@debian.org
sig!3A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
sub   2048R/AB62B0B8 2010-10-04 [expires: 2011-10-04]
sig! A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
sub   2048R/9BDF4C7E 2010-10-04 [expires: 2011-10-04]
sig! A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com
sub   4096R/BA99A4BE 2010-10-04
sig! A17841FE 2010-10-04  Aron Xu (happyaron) happyaron...@gmail.com

8 signatures not checked due to missing keys
Key is OpenPGP version 4 or greater.
Key has 4096 bits.
Valid e flag, no expiration.
Valid s flag, no expiration.


2. Background
-
Aron has been a DM since December 2010 - A short time indeed, but he
has been maintaining packages for quite some time before that - The
reason he didn't apply before is because he had not got the
opportunity to get his key signed before. 

An important part of his work consists on maintaining input methods
for X (for inputting Chinese characters). He is part of the IME
Packaging Team (pkg-ime), so many of his packages are
group-maintained, although he explained to me that he is often the
only responsible human for them. Many of the bugs where he has been
active are related to I18N/CJK support and documentation translation.

Aron also works in some upstream groups - He is both a GNOME and KDE
committer and GNOME foundation member, following the same lines. He
is also leading the Ubuntu Simplified Chinese Translators.

3. Philosophy and Procedures
-

He proficiently replied at all of my PP-related questions, we had a
nice little debate regarding some of the pointy questions. He
definitively knows where Debian stands in the Free Software world,
properly understands what do the SC, DFSG, DMUP mean, and agrees to
abide by them in his Debian work. He even managed to reply and make
sense out of some extra/trick questions I expected him to skip!

4. Tasks and Skills
---

Aron pointed me at several examples of bugs he has fixed, and to some
well managed and well understood corner cases of upstream
interaction. Even though he (as we all) needs to sharpen his skills on
some areas (explicitly, better/cleaner shell scripting - A very
important skill of a package maintainer!), even his mistakes show he
understands the processes, and are more about form than about
function. I am confident he will become a valuable DD.

5. Recommendation
-

   I recommend to accept Aron as a Debian Developer.


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Advocating William Vera - Again

[Gunnar Wolf]

I sent this message two days ago to nm-committee, but in any case, I
think it should be re-sent to a public list. Front-desk, please
comment on it (whether you approve it or not).

Hi,

I'd like to resubmit my advocacy for William Vera to start his NM
process.

I have long known William, although he used to live in a very distant
part of the country and we had met only briefly. I sent an advocacy
message on May 2010, but it was not accepted as I had explicitly
stated I had not yet worked technically with him.

He has now relocated to Mexico City, and has been staying at myy house
for the past two weeks. We have talked extensively about his work as a
maintainer since 2005, his work in the forensics and testing-security
teams, and his role in building local Debian communities.

I want to submit again my advocacy for him to start his NM work. I am
confident he has enough experience to start the process, and I am sure
he will be a good gain for our project.

Thanks,


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Re: Advocating Antonio Terceiro terce...@softwarelivre.org

[Gunnar Wolf]

Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:16:25AM +0100]:
 On 22/02/11 at 06:35 +, NM Front Desk wrote:
  Auth-Key: nmauth45ce94b15a8386d4f7c5b216a8e98913
  Applicant: Antonio Terceiro terce...@softwarelivre.org
  
  Why do you advocate this person? (please provide a 5-10 line summary).

Even if one advocate is enough, I want to join in. I am glad Terceiro
finally is applying as a NM. I met him IIRC in DebConf 4, in Brazil,
2004, and remember fondly the interaction with him. I am also working
with him in the pkg-ruby-extras group, where he has shown to be a
dilligent and knowledgeable person. He will undoubtely pass the NM
process, and will be an important asset to Debian.



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AM report for Kamal Mostafa

[Gunnar Wolf]

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Kamal
   Last name:   Mostafa
   Key fingerprint: 73EE 9226 58C2 E073 40EA  9613 E7F7 1055 5409 E422
   Account: kamal
   Forward email:   ka...@whence.com

   ID check passed, key signed by 5 existing developers.
   Output from keycheck.sh:

$ ./keycheck.sh 73EE922658C2E07340EA9613E7F710555409E422
gpg: requesting key 5409E422 from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
pub   4096R/5409E422 2010-03-28
  Key fingerprint = 73EE 9226 58C2 E073 40EA  9613 E7F7 1055 5409 E422
uid  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com
sig! F2C423BC 2010-05-19  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 01AA4A64 2010-10-28  Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com
sig! C095D941 2010-09-22  Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
sig!23EFB79EF 2010-04-03  Andrew Pollock m...@andrew.net.au
sig!326B47B9F 2010-11-02  Martin Pitt mar...@piware.de
sig!35409E422 2010-03-28  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com
uid  Kamal Mostafa ka...@canonical.com
sig! F2C423BC 2010-05-19  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 01AA4A64 2010-10-28  Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com
sig! C095D941 2010-09-22  Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
sig!23EFB79EF 2010-04-03  Andrew Pollock m...@andrew.net.au
sig!326B47B9F 2010-11-02  Martin Pitt mar...@piware.de
sig!35409E422 2010-03-28  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com
uid  Kamal Mostafa kamal.most...@canonical.com
sig! F2C423BC 2010-05-19  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 01AA4A64 2010-10-28  Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com
sig! C095D941 2010-09-22  Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
sig!23EFB79EF 2010-04-03  Andrew Pollock m...@andrew.net.au
sig!326B47B9F 2010-11-02  Martin Pitt mar...@piware.de
sig!35409E422 2010-03-28  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com
uid  [jpeg image of size 4526]
sig! F2C423BC 2010-05-19  Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
sig! 01AA4A64 2010-10-28  Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com
sig! 26B47B9F 2010-11-02  Martin Pitt mar...@piware.de
sig! C095D941 2010-09-22  Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
sig!35409E422 2010-03-28  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com
sub   4096R/9807A936 2010-03-28
sig! 5409E422 2010-03-28  Kamal Mostafa ka...@whence.com

100 signatures not checked due to missing keys
Key is OpenPGP version 4 or greater.
Key has 4096 bits.
Valid e flag, no expiration.
Valid s flag, no expiration.


2. Background
-
   Applicant writes:
   (paragraphs copied from our conversation; full log will be
   available to FrontDesk)
 
I first became motivated to get involved with Debian in 2009, through
my involvement with Ubuntu (I have since become employed by
Canonical).  Part of the process of fixing bugs in Ubuntu is to report
the bug and send the patch upstream -- usually up to Debian and/or
beyond -- so I quickly learned that fixing Debian bugs directly was
the fast track to fixing Ubuntu bugs.  When I then discovered that
some of my own favorite ham radio packages were in need of maintenance
at Debian, I was eager to get more involved and help out.

Since then though, I've come to appreciate Debian not just as a path
to helping Ubuntu, but for its own sake.  Debian provides an
incredibly valuable resource to the world, and I will be proud to be
included in the ranks of its developers.
  (...)
My efforts at Debian are indeed focused on the two ham radio packages
that I've adopted.  I am considering adopting more of the ham packages
that were orphaned when Joop Stakenborg retired last year.  Ham radio
is my hobby and I have become quite involved with the Debian and
Ubuntu ham radio groups.
  (...)
I am employed by Canonical as a Hardware Enablement Engineer on the
Ubuntu kernel team.  I focus on machine-specific quirks like
dysfunctional volume or brightness keys on particular laptop models,
graphics issues for certain models, suspend/resume hangs and other
BIOS-related problems.  I investigate and resolve such issues for
Ubuntu community users and Canonical customers, and contribute patches
upstream to various Linux maintainers.

   Google says:

I have to admit that, due to Kamal having many pseudonyms, I have
mainly restricted my report either to sources he controls (such as his
personal homepage) or that he already mentioned (such as Canonical's
Launchpad - His real job is at Canonical).

Kamal's curriculum shows a very long history of professional
involvement in Unix development, dating back to the 1989 SCO:

  http://www.whence.com/kamal/Kamal-Mostafa-resume.html

Given his real job is at Canonical, it is natural -but still
impressive- to have this very active Launchpad page:

  https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa

I have to note that, as I specifically asked Kamal whether he planned
to get involved with the kernel development/hardware support 

Re: DM application of Luis Uribe

[Gunnar Wolf]

Luis Uribe dijo [Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:05:42AM -0500]:
 Hi all,
 
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and Debian 
 Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.

As it has happened before: I have met Luis, and am very happy he is
taking the step of actively and officially starting to work on Debian
as a DM. 

This mail, however, is _not_ signed and should _not_ be seen as
advocating him: I remember meeting him in Bogotá and talking with him,
and I welcome him among our ranks. However, I have never worked
technically with him, so my support can only stay as anecdotic :)


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Re: Advocating Jonathan Yu jaw...@cpan.org

[Gunnar Wolf]

Xavier Oswald dijo [Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:51:48PM +0200]:
 Im doing this advocation with my DD hat but you can see it more or less as the
 whole perl team behind this advocation.

Still, you didn't do it with your key - Please do it again ;-)


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Re: DM application of Jonathan Yu

[Gunnar Wolf]

Jonathan Yu dijo [Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 05:08:35PM -0400]:
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 Currently, I am developing libdebctrl (a Debian project, which began in the 
 2009
 Google Summer of Code). I co-maintain several [1] packages with the Debian 
 Perl
 Group, but have reduced my group involvement as of late to focus on 
 libdebctrl.

Although I am currently not active in the Debian Perl Group, I have
worked with Jonathan, seen his technical work, opinions and
suggestions, and sponsored some of his packages. I would have
supported his DM application one or two years ago, and I can only
assume he has become even better at it. So, I fully recommend him to
be accepted as DM.


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Accepting new applicant's keys: Stronger requirements

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hi,

Just re-stating yesterday's mail to d-d-a¹ for the relevant people,
I'll quote here the last paragraph:

But then again, we are not allowing any new 1024D keys
anymore. Anybody who is currently a DD or DM, or that has started
his application towards becoming one, will be allowed with
whatever key they currently have - But effective October 1st, no
applications for DM or DD should be processed with anything less
than a 2048R SHA2-capable key.

So, please don't forget to request this from your applicants. This
is valid both for NMs and for DM applications.

Oh, one more thing: I will update keyring.d.o's Web pages with this
information - Please update DM and NM pages reflecting the change as
well, to avoid upsetting applicants!

Thanks,

¹ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg3.html


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Re: AM report for Deepak Tripathi

[Gunnar Wolf]

Christoph Berg dijo [Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:34:47PM +0200]:
 3. Philosophy and Procedures
 -
Deepak has a good understanding of Debian's philosophy and
procedures and answered all questions about the social contract,
DFSG, BTS, etc. in a good way. Deepak committed to uphold the SC
and DFSG in his Debian work and accepts the DMUP.
 
 4. Tasks and Skills
 ---
Deepak has a good understanding of the technical side of Debian.
Deepak is maintainer of more than 40 packages, mostly ruby and perl
modules. All packages are in good shape. Deepak also answered other
questions regarding TS without problems and provided patches for
RC bugs.
 
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Deepak as a Debian Developer.

I have been working lately with Deepak, as he maintains many
Ruby-related modules in the pkg-ruby-extras group. After failing to be
accepted as a DD in the past, he has really put effort into
understanding the shortcomings he had. I completely agree that now he
is qualified to become a DD, and welcome him on board!

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AM report for Felipe Sateler

[Gunnar Wolf]

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Felipe
   Middle name:
   Last name:   Sateler
   Key fingerprint: 218E E036 2033 C87B 6C13  5FA4 A3BA BAE2 408D D6CF
   Account: fsateler
   Forward email:   fsate...@gmail.com

   ID check passed; Felipe's key is signed by Robert Collins only. I
   have requested Felipe to work on getting additional signatures; he
   lives in Chile, where there is one DD (Bruno Barrera), but is
   somewhere between inactivity and MIA :-(

   Output from keycheck.sh:
$ ./keycheck.sh 408DD6CF
Syncing Debian Keyrings with rsync from keyring.debian.org
Receiving and checking key
gpg: requesting key 408DD6CF from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
pub   4096R/408DD6CF 2009-05-08
  Key fingerprint = 218E E036 2033 C87B 6C13  5FA4 A3BA BAE2 408D D6CF
uid  Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com
sig!3FBD3EB8E 2009-06-10  Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net
sig!3408DD6CF 2009-05-08  Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com
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sub   4096R/D70D5F18 2009-05-09
sig! 408DD6CF 2009-05-09  Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com

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2. Background
-

Felipe has been active for several years already in Debian, first
being sponsored, and since December 2009 as a DM. To be honest,
although we work in very different areas, I was surprised when he was
assigned to me for NM processing (after he worked on NM in
September/October with mk...@d.o), as I expected him to be already a
DD. Felipe had even NMU'd one of my own packages ;-)

   Applicant writes:

My first attempt at trying linux was back in 99 I think, with WinLinux.
I didn't get very far, though. The first real attempt was with Red Hat
8, in 2002-2003. I used it for a while, but got really annoyed with the
package manager, so in 2004 I switched to Debian (when sarge was
testing), after a quick stage on Linux From Scratch. All this time I was
also using several free applications for Windows (I remember Gnutella
was the reason I started looking into free software as such, until then
linux was just an alternative OS for me). I decided to start
volunteering time because I had some free time, but nowadays I do it
because what I want to do with my computer, Debian right now can't
offer.

I started packaging for debian with checkinstall in 2005-2006. I stayed
at that for a while, but adopted csound when I started using it but the
current debian package was lagging behind upstream. Since then, I have
been getting more involved in the Debian Multimedia Maintainers team
(formerly Debian Multimedia and Debian Multimedia Packages teams),
hoping to make Debian a good digital audio workstation. I have now 5
source packages in debian, with one in the adoption stage (ladspa-sdk).
My plans for the future are trying to make Debian a top-notch audio
processing distribution, on where it currently lacks. In particular, the
Debian Multimedia Maintainers team is understaffed not only with
contributors in general, but specifically DDs that can sponsor uploads.
This makes it hard to maintain packages within the team without being a
DD, which is why some of my packages are not maintained within the
team's umbrella, even though I'd like that.

   Google says:

Actually, Google replied precisely as I expected: Felipe has long been
active in Debian; there are many instances where he gives good support
leads in other Free Software related forums.

3. Philosophy and Procedures
-
   Felipe has a good understanding of Debian's philosophy and
   procedures and answered all my questions about the social contract,
   DFSG, BTS, etc. in a good way. Felipe committed to uphold the SC and
   DFSG in his Debian work and accepts the DMUP.

4. Tasks and Skills
---
   Felipe has a good understanding of the technical side of Debian.
   Felipe is maintainer of several multimedia-related packages
   (csound, qutecsound, cmt, csound-manual and liblo), as well as of
   checkinstall. He has worked on such packages for several years
   already, and they are kept in good state - Although there are some
   open bug reports, they are not at all neglected. His packaging is
   quite good; Felipe works together with the CDBS maintainer, who is
   most pleased with his work.

5. Recommendation
-
   I recommend to accept Felipe as a Debian Developer.


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Re: Advocating William Vera bi...@billy.com.mx

[Gunnar Wolf]

Enrico Zini dijo [Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:22:13PM +0100]:
  I have not directly worked Debian-wise with William, but know him from
  the Free Software activities in my country - and have talked with him
  several times. I have reviewed his currently sponsored work in Debian,
  and is very well kept, which speaks well about his personal abilities
 
 Just one clarification: you say I have not directly worked Debian-wise
 with William, and that phrase raises a FD alarm bell about this size:
 http://www.1-800-4clocks.com/images/Big-Ben-Clock-Bell-London.jpg
 
 However you say that you have reviewed his sponsored work in Debian. The
 two statements are, as I see it, contradictory, unless it was just a
 quick review.
 (...)

Hi Enrico,

I added William as a recipient - Billy, I told you so! ;-) I told you
I would not be a good advocate for you, as we have stone-cold and
iron-cast people sitting at the frontdesk. Not only that, they
masquerade for a nice, warm, lovable Italian guy... Nobody is safe
now! 

Enrico, on a more serious note: I agree with you. I know (and stand by
what I wrote) William will make a good addition to Debian, and I would
have liked him to take this step several years ago already. However, I
also agree I cannot judge his technical work - I did a bit more than
just looking at the pages, but of course, that's not as much as saying
I have worked closely with him.

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Re: Advocating William Vera bi...@billy.com.mx

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NM Front Desk dijo [Wed, May 05, 2010 at 03:33:53AM +]:
 Auth-Key: nmauth8516eb5ede9276908126ac8529c71ef8
 Applicant: William Vera bi...@billy.com.mx
 
 Why do you advocate this person? (please provide a 5-10 line summary).
 
 You are encouraged to take questions such as the following into account
 but you're not limited to answering these:
  - How have they contributed to Debian already?
  - What do they intend to do for Debian in the future?
  - How do they interact with others, such as users and other developers?

I have known William for many years already - probably at least since
2005, and he was already interested in getting more into Debian.

I have not directly worked Debian-wise with William, but know him from
the Free Software activities in my country - and have talked with him
several times. I have reviewed his currently sponsored work in Debian,
and is very well kept, which speaks well about his personal abilities
and motivation. Besides general GNU/Linux promotion as the LUG leader
in Mérida, Yucatán, William currently maintains 12 packages in
Debian¹, all of them with perfect QA as of right now. He was
explaining to me his strategy towards choosing which packages to take
over: By using wnpp-alert, he learns about packages he uses and which
are orphaned.

William tells me he is trying to fix the situation where many people
have found it cool and trendy to upload a package to Debian, only to
later abandon it.

He is currently working in the security/forensic areas, and those are
the areas he shows most interest in colaborating with in Debian.

In short, I expect him to be a valuable addition to Debian.

¹ http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=bi...@billy.com.mx

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Re: Debian Maintainer application

[Gunnar Wolf]

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Deepak Tripathi dijo [Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:02:30AM +]:
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 Currently, I maintain the packages pyodbc, libi18n-ruby, djang-apps-plugin,
 libxml-simple-ruby and many more (around ~25) under debian-perl, debian-ruby
 and debian-python groups.
 
 My GnuPG key B9B0C9F2 is signed by the Debian Developers Erik Schanze,
 Christian Perrier, Sam Hocevar, Kartik Mistry, Sean Finney, 
 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan,  Y Giridhar Appaji Nag and John Leuner.
 
 I look forward to becoming a Debian Maintainer. Thanks for your attention.

I have sponsored several of his Perl and Ruby packages. You can see¹
they are kept in very good shape. Deepak is a very enthusiastic,
long-time Free Software enthusiast, long motivated to work in Debian,
committed to his local Free Software groups. 

I will clearly welcome Deepak as a Debian Maintainer, and of course, I
advocate his request.

¹ http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=apenguinli...@gmail.comcomaint=yes

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Re: Debian Maintainer application

[Gunnar Wolf]

Gunnar Wolf dijo [Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:34:31AM -0500]:
 Your name (from the 'From:' header) was UTF-mangled, at least both for
 my mutt client and in the mail archives¹. Could you please either fix
 your client or state your name as part of the body (or both, of
 course)?

FWIW, the four identities in Stefan's GPG key are:

pub   1024D/868EFA66 2001-08-04
uid  b...@bc-bd.org b...@bc-bd.org
uid  Stefan Voelkel ste...@bc-bd.org
uid  Stefan Völkel ste...@bc-bd.org
uid  Stefan Völkel ste...@bc-bd.org
sub   2048g/8E493D7C 2001-08-04

So from here we can get his name. And his frustration with different
encoding systems ;-)

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Re: AM report for Obey Arthur Liu

[Gunnar Wolf]

Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:49:34PM +0200]:
 (...)
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Arthur as a Debian Developer.

It will be a honor to Obey Arthur as a DD. 

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[Gunnar Wolf]

1. Identification  Account Data

   First name:  Tommi
   Middle name: 
   Last name:   Vainikainen
   Key fingerprint: 1228EB75
   Account: tvainika
   Forward email:   t...@iki.fi

   ID check passed, key signed by lots of existing developers (Tommi
   was present at the Helsinki keysigning party)

   Output from keycheck.sh:
$ ./keycheck.sh 1228EB75
Syncing Debian Keyrings with rsync from keyring.debian.org
Receiving and checking key
gpg: requesting key 1228EB75 from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
pub   1024D/1228EB75 2001-06-07 [expires: 2010-12-10]
  Key fingerprint = 10CA 47C6 A071 7261 20E2  2E0B 5470 3CDE 1228 EB75
uid  Tommi Vainikainen t...@iki.fi
(…)
sub   2048g/4D7C1E4C 2001-06-07 [expires: 2010-12-10]
sig! 1228EB75 2003-12-12  Tommi Vainikainen t...@iki.fi

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Valid e flag on key 0x54703CDE1228EB75, expires Fri 10 Dec 2010 14:54:19 CST, 
OK!
Valid s flag on key 0x54703CDE1228EB75, expires Fri 10 Dec 2010 14:54:19 CST, 
OK!

2. Background
-
Tommi has long been approaching Debian — His first first advocation
mail dates back to 2004 (!), and he attended DebConf5 in Finland. His
advocate states he is familiar with Tommi mainly due to his Finnish
translation efforts in GNOME. Looking through minechangelogs' output
confirms this, as many DDs hace credited him in their changelogs, both
for translation and for bugfixes.

   Applicant writes:

Let me introduce myself shortly: I'm 28 year old, I'm married, and we
have 7 months old boy with my wife. I've MSc. Tech (CS) from Helsinki
University of Technology (graduated 2005), and I'm working as Senior
Software Developer in small startup called Conformiq working on a
proprietary software product for model-based testing (automated test
generation from models) using Debian. At work I also sysadmin our
Debian servers, and help others to install Ubuntu. Sometimes I also
have to work with the operating system From the dark side, but I get
paid to do that. :)
(…)
My interest in being part of Debian is mostly philosophical: I think
that free software benefits the society more than proprietary
software, especially on core software such as operating systems. I
think that Debian project is very unique free software project with
Debian's massive developer base and democratic decision making.

Of course Debian distribution is technically very advanced too, both
in historic perspective with Apt, but still that everything works so
smoothly with new releases. Software is well tested and stable when
released.

   Google says:

Consistent with what he and his advocate wrote, Google says he is an
active translator for Finnish in Launchpad, and he can be easily
linked to his workplace, Conformiq. There is a high proportion of
pages listing Tommi in Finnish, of course, and I dare not wander in
there unaccompanied ;-)

This page has a good listing of the activities I have found him
related to - Of course, I assume the musician is a homonym, or just an
area of his person he didn't feel with a strong relation to Debian:

  http://pipl.com/directory/name/Vainikainen/Tommi

You can also see his activity in Debian L10N:

  http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po/fi 

3. Philosophy and Procedures
-
   Tommi has a good understanding of Debian's philosophy and
   procedures and answered all my questions about the social contract,
   DFSG, BTS, etc. in a good way. Tommi committed to uphold the SC and
   DFSG in his Debian work and accepts the DMUP.
   
4. Tasks and Skills
---
   Tommi has a good understanding of the technical side of Debian.
   Tommi is maintainer of gnus and xqilla, both of which I have
   sponsored. 
   All packages are in good shape - Gnus has a high bug count, but he
   has done some progress in comparison to when he adopted it.
   Tommi also answered my other questions regarding TS without problems
   and provided patches for RC bugs.

5. Recommendation
-
   I recommend to accept Tommi as a Debian Developer.

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Re: Debian Maintainer application for Ansgar Burchardt

[Gunnar Wolf]

Ansgar Burchardt dijo [Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:26:35PM +0900]:
 Hi,
 
 this is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer[1].
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 Currently, I (co-)maintain too many packages to list them all here[2].
 All packages except `at' are team-maintained in either the Debian Games
 Team or the Debian Perl Group.  Still, it would be convenient to be able
 to upload some packages myself, especially taking into consideration
 that Cyril Brulebois asked to step down as a co-maintainer for `at'.
 
 My PGP key 0x595FAD19 is signed by the Debian Developer Frank
 Lichtenheld fr...@lichtenheld.de.  I also applied to become a Debian
 Developer[3].
 
 I look forward to becoming a Debian Maintainer.
 
 Regards,
 Ansgar
 
 [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers
 [2] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ansgar%4043-1.orgcomaint=yes
 [3] https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=ansgar%4043-1.org

Although I have not been directly engaged much with Angsar's work, he
is quite active and enthusiastic in the pkg-perl group, and he is one
of the people I clearly recognize as doing the very hard work of
keeping such a beast moving and up to date. I support him becoming a
Debian Maintainer, and expect to see him as a full DD soon!

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Re: Cuban prospective DD can't acomplish NM identification

[Gunnar Wolf]

Raphael Hertzog dijo [Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:09:04AM +0200]:
   Was it not so that the DAM phone contact which is (nearly?) always
   set to not required in NM reports was about that, i.e. if the
   applicant cannot get near a DD, then the DAM talks to him on the
   phone, checking he is a real live individual, maybe reading his key
   fingerprint over the phone, and put the key in the keyring based on
   that?
  
  I hope not, having a chat over the phone is no id check.
 
 Yet that's the only id check that happened to me... (except the numerous
 signatures that I got after becoming DD.)

Well, the times they are a' changin'.

At some point in history it was determined that was not enough of an
ID check. Possibly, we should make some analysis on the current
keyrings to find if there are DDs (possibly among the old-timers) who
do not have any cross-signatures — I am adding Jonathan
(keyring-maint) on Cc: to this mail (in case he is not following this
list) to check if he is aware of any such check.

Of course, in any case, this would not be throwing DDs out, but should
bring to their attention they should actively seek somebody to
sign/verify. 

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Re: Cuban prospective DD can't acomplish NM identification

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Adrian Perez dijo [Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:48:53AM -0400]:
 Hello list.
 
 My name is Adrian Perez, and since months ago, I've managed to get the
 time to contribute to debian as a maintainer. 
 The first issue I found it's that my country wasn't listed on the
 gpg-coord page, thanks to the contact with Ralf Treinen that got fixed;
 but as you may see I was able to submit my request long time after my
 intentions were to. 
 (…)

When I first entered NM, I was also alone in Mexico. Of course, I
recognize your and my countries stand on a very different position,
but still, this is worth giving a shot. Some ideas:

• Maykel Moya, who AFAICT lives in La Habana, was in DebConf7. You
  might ask him to sign your key. (adding him Cc: — Greetings,
  Maykel!). His key (A99479EF) is signed by several DDs.

• Whoever signs your key would most preferably be a DD, but it can be
  a different person, whose identity can be traced and connected to
  the Debian keyring or to other Free Software strong keyrings. I know
  there are several Cuban Free Software communities — Are you in touch
  with any of them? Do any of the members belong to any FS development
  or advocacy groups?

• Several Debian people have travelled to Cuba over the last
  years. Sadly, when I travelled (back in 2000) and met quite a bit of
  (then) Free Software-related people, I was still not acquinted with
  establishing webs of trust (and a 10 year old signature starts
  smelling stale ;-) ). Still, I'm Cc:ing David Moreno (Damog), who
  travelled not so long ago to Cuba. Of course, not so long ago
  might mean four years or so — David is now living on the USA, so I
  know it was not _so_ recent!

• Which city do you live in? Even if the keys are not signed, David or
  me (or somebody else who has travelled to Cuba in this fashion) can
  phone somebody we trust (and identify) in your area. If we can
  establish this person is clearly the person we trust (i.e. by
  recognizing the voice _and_ adding some questions regarding what did
  we do together), and this person asserts having checked your
  identity, it might be enough.

I hope the following is enough to get you started!

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Re: Cuban prospective DD can't acomplish NM identification

[Gunnar Wolf]

Adrian Perez dijo [Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:40:38PM -0400]:
  • Maykel Moya, who AFAICT lives in La Habana, was in DebConf7. You
might ask him to sign your key. (adding him Cc: — Greetings,
Maykel!). His key (A99479EF) is signed by several DDs.
  
 I've contacted him, although you CC'ed him, and DebianCuba seems to
 offline.

[Update]: Maykel has replied, and is in contact with Adrián. Of
course, given the Cuban situation, having Maykel's signature _should_
be more than enough as an ID check.

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Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips

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Enrico Zini dijo [Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:58:22PM +0100]:
   The first bit that I wanted to add to it was Things to do before asking
   questions from the templates, where I'd like to condensate some of the
   things discussed during Debconf.
  
  Ah.  Are there records of those discussions?  Was DAM involved?  It
  seems to involve trying to reduce the templated questions asked so I was
  wondering how as an AM you know if you've asked enough to satisfy FD and
  DAM.
 
 The notes have been posted here:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2009/07/msg00034.html
 
 I think that the main thing that can be extracted from the notes to
 answer your question is this one:
 
  - common sense is more effective that you'd imagine
 
 I'm neither part of FD nor DAM, but that was IIRC the consensus during
 the BOF.

A couple of weeks before this discussion, I was talking about this
same topic with Mako, who stopped by for some days in Mexico (and who
I am adding as a Cc: in case he does not follow -newmaint). He
strongly stressed that he never follows the template questions, and I
found his position quite sound. Although more time-consuming and
engaging for the AM (and possibly for FD+DAM at the review, as they
would not be familiar at all with the topics discussed), engaging in a
true conversation leading to find the weakest -or most interesting-
spots in an applicant's PP and TS.

Mako told me he used to push people to stay away from templates, but
is less pushy nowadays as he is less active/visible here. He told me
he would publish (at least in an AM-visible way) a couple of his mail
interchanges — I believe we can learn a bit from that approach. So,
this mail is basically to push him to do so :)

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Re: Proposed patches for NM templates

[Gunnar Wolf]

Tiago Bortoletto Vaz dijo [Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:07:21PM -0300]:
  Why?  I happily researched all the questions during the NM process
  before writing my responses, even for the questions i felt that i
  already had answers to.  It was an opportunity to conduct a deliberate
  exploration of useful details, led by a helpful guide.
 
 I just bad expressed myself here. I meant questions I would *only* be able to
 say something about if I did a research. In other words, I think it's 
 important
 to give the AM my previous/current experiences, even if it's next to zero.
 
 Imagine I've written in my first NM email I want to become a DD because I want
 to package libraries. Then I answer in a good way all the questions regarding
 libraries - by doing some research, because I've never did it before. So, 
 don't
 you think is missing something here? For someone who wants to become a DD
 mainly to work in i18n infrastrucure, it would be ok just knowing the nice
 steps for packaging libraries. For prospective library packagers, it's not
 enough IMO. However, the questions by themselves don't make any difference
 between the one who knows and the one who really knows by previous experiences
 a given subject.

Ummm... Well, you are supposed to get to the questions _after_
verifying the applicant is already contributing in a meaningful way to
Debian. So far, part of what I do prior to getting to PP is to check
their current activity and to talk with at least one person they have
interacted with to see how their technical work is.

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Re: New Debian Developers

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Bernd Zeimetz dijo [Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:21:39AM +0200]:
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 Hi,
 
 I'm happy to announce that the following applicants have recently completed 
 the
 New Maintainer process and are now Debian Developers:

Yay!

Special congratulations from my part to Francisco García Claramonte
(francisco), as he is the first person to go through my (possibly
lacking) actuation as an AM, and to Raphael Geissert (geissert), an
admirable and bright connational, the fourth Mexican DD (and the
second that currently lives in the country). 

And, of course, congratulations to the rest of you!

Welcome on board!

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Re: AM report for Ryan Niebur ryanrya...@gmail.com

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Enrico Zini dijo [Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:03:50PM +0200]:
 Hello,
 
 1. Identification  Account Data
 
First name:  Ryan
Last name:   Niebur
 (...)
 3. Philosophy and Procedures
 -
Ryan has a good understanding of Debian's philosophy and procedures
and answered all my questions about the social contract,
DFSG, BTS, etc. in a good way. Ryan committed to uphold the SC and
DFSG in his Debian work and accepts the DMUP.
 
 4. Tasks and Skills
 ---
Ryan has a good understanding of the technical side of Debian.
Ryan is an active member of the Debian Perl group.
Ryan is maintainer of a staggering amount of packages (sponsored by
all sorts of people). I'll avoid copying and pasting here his large
DDPO page: 
 http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ryanryan52%40gmail.comcomaint=yes
I have checked ack-grep, apt-listbugs, crip, inosync,
libbackgroundrb-ruby, mergelog, storebackup and xli and they are all
in good shape.
Ryan also answered my other questions regarding TS without problems.
I did not bother asking him to create patches for RC bugs because I
judged that he has fixed more than enough already in the past and I
did not want to make him waste unnecessary time.
 
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Ryan as a Debian Developer.

I completely second this recommendation and hope Ryan's account is
promptly created. He is a very active and communicative member of the
Perl and Ruby teams, and will become an important asset to Debian1

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Re: Intent to become a Debian Maintainer

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Ryan Niebur dijo [Fri, May 15, 2009 at 08:32:17AM -0700]:
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers.
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 My GnuPG key F69C6AC5 is signed by the Debian Developer Lantz Moore.
 I look forward to becoming a Debian Maintainer. Thanks for your attention.

I fully support Ryan being admitted as a DM. He is very active in the
pkg-perl and pkg-ruby-extras group, and I'm sure he will be a good
gain for Debian.

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Re: Debian maintainer application for Angel Abad

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Angel Abad (Ikusnet SLL) dijo [Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 04:41:11PM +0200]:
 Hello,
 
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 Currently, I maintain the packages almanah and I co‐maintain the
 packages libautodie-perl, libconfig-scoped-perl, libdata-report-perl,
 libjson-perl, libjson-xs-perl, libsvn-hooks-perl and
 libsvn-look-perl.
 
 My GnuPG key EE3BC279 is signed by the Debian Developer Jordi Mallach
 jo...@debian.org.
 
 I look forward to becoming a Debian Maintainer. Thanks for your
 attention.
 
 Thanks!
 

Hi,

I have been in communication with Ángel. He has not been involved in
the community side of Debian (I have invited him to become more active
in the lists/channels), but is a dilligent maintainer. He has applied
for the NM process, and was almost-advocated by Amaya¹. He approached
me for this same purpose, and I requested him to get more involved in
Debian first, both by becoming more active in the pkg-perl group and
by acting as a DM first.

So, I fully support Ángel's request to become a DM.

¹ Who could not perform this task due to technical factors not
  relevant to this discussion

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Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

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Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:36:14PM +0100]:
   Why any people cannot become a new Debian Developer in these days? 
   What is the bottleneck for that, or there is any reason?
   We needs more and more developers, I think.
  
   # but I don't want to blame someone. Just want to know why and how to 
  solve it.
 
 Check https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php:
 
 39 applicants are currently waiting for an application manager. To help
 those, new AMs need to be recruited amongst the DDs, or existing AMs
 need to take more applications.

Just as a side note here... I recently gave my NM to FrontDesk for
evaluation, so I am free to take one more NM. I am basically waiting
for the powers that be to assign one to me - but I understand the
system running it all might prefer to wait until FD says my AM process
was fine. 

I know I won't respond in due time if I increase my number of
applicants. So, FD humans: Send another victim my way. Or tell me to
increase my threshold and later decrease it :)

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Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

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Ďoďo dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:31:58PM +0100]:
 Another question Patrick,
 
 Real example:
 More then year ago I applied to become Debian developer. After some
 time I got answer that rule has change and I need to maintain at least
 to packages and I should wait for 1 year.
 My question is: Why should I come after 1 year again?
 I continue to maintain my 2 packages, I do not try any more to become
 debian developer and I want to become maintainer just not to ask
 always someone else to upload packages for me. I do not have too much
 time, and since process takes long time, I will may be decide to
 rather disturb always someone else to upload the latest version of my
 packages rather then to answer another question I got during my
 application processing. It is not optimal, but I do not like
 processes :)

And that's great! Do not see it as a rejection: Yes, you were not
deemed ready to become part of Debian back then. Maybe you would now -
But being part of Debian is not just uploading packages... A couple of
years ago we didn't have DM (which, although is often criticized,
_does_ solve problems such as this one). Being a DD requires more
involvement and idetification with the project than wanting to
directly upload software.

So, nothing bad in being happy with being just a DM. It is a great
contribution! (And yes, I do think we should try and get more profiles
besides DM and DD, for different sets of tasks)

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Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hideki Yamane dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:22:12PM +0900]:
  Weekly Summary Statistics
  =
  2 more people applied to become a new maintainer
  0 applicants became maintainers.
 
  Why any people cannot become a new Debian Developer in these days? 
  What is the bottleneck for that, or there is any reason?
  We needs more and more developers, I think.

Well... Time to put on my old person hat :)

When I joined the project (2003 - I did NM for slightly over a year,
starting at the end of 2001), there was a perception of a big waiting
period after the checks were in place. This feeling (I think :) ) grew
over the following year or two. And yes, ~2005 we saw many important
changes in how the accounts were created, the people and steps
involved in the process.

NM is far from perfect, as it has already been said, but it is what we
have. And FWIW, we have improved it quite a bit.

As for we needs more and more developers... I tend to disagree. We
need developers to be better. We need motivated people to join, and
demotivated people to leave. It is not about being more - it is about
being better. 

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AM report for Francisco Garcí a Claramonte

[Gunnar Wolf]

 Name: francisco
Email Address:franciscomanuel.gar...@hispalinux.es

3. Philosophy and Procedures
-

Francisco has a good understanding of our philosophy and procedures,
and answered to the questions in a satisfactory way. He agrees to
uphold the SC and DFSG, as well as the DMUP. We exchanged several
rounds of mail on this subject, and I can completely state that he
knows our documents and our philosophy well enough to play as part of
the team. I tried some tricky ellaborations, and he answered them
correctly. 

4. Tasks and Skills
---

Francisco is no newbie in Debian packaging, as he has maintained
several packages (via sponsorship) for quite some time. He currently
maintains five packages [1] (and has one, drgeo, pending for adoption,
with the previous maintainer's blessing, having performed two NMUs on
it), in very good shape.

Going over his TS replies has been an interesting process. Although,
as expected, there were some precisions to be made - But I can clearly
state he has performed very well in this area.

5. Recommendation
-

I fully recommend Francisco to be accepted as a Debian Developer.

[1] 
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=franciscomanuel.garcia%40hispalinux.es

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Re: AM report for Xavier Oswald

[Gunnar Wolf]

Kari Pahula dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:14:24AM +0200]:
 Report for new developer applicant Xavier Oswald x.osw...@free.fr:
 (...)
 5. Recommendation
 -
I recommend to accept Xavier Oswald as a Debian Developer.

Me too. He has been a pkg-perl team member for quite a bit, and I
fully recommend him to be acceepted as well.

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Re: AM report for Asheesh Laroia ashe...@asheesh.org

[Gunnar Wolf]

Steffen Joeris dijo [Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 08:23:54PM +0100]:
 Report for new developer applicant Asheesh Laroia ashe...@asheesh.org
 5. Recommendation
 -
 
 I recommend to accept Asheesh as a Debian Developer.

I have not worked with Asheesh in Debian, but met him at DebConf9, and
-at least from the PP, Debian-ideological side- I am happy to see him
also on this boat.

Greetings,

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Re: DM application for Tiago Bortoletto Vaz

[Gunnar Wolf]

Tiago Bortoletto Vaz dijo [Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:35:56AM -0300]:
 Hi,
 
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and Debian
 Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 (...)
 My GnuPG key is signed by many DDs since I've joined some key sigining parties
 in past Debconfs.
 
 Otavio Salvador (otavio) has been sponsoring my packages for more than 2 
 years,
 so he can write about my technical skills on packaging. I've worked with 
 Daniel
 Baumann (daniel) on live helper, who is also my advocate in NM process. Maybe
 he can express a bit about me for DM process. They are both receiving a CC of
 this email.

Like Holger, I will leave aside the technical recommendations for
Otavio and Daniel - But I also wish to support Tiago's (IMHO long
due!) application. He has been active in Debian for many years
already, active and involved in various of DebConf's organization
activities, and clearly identifies himself with the project. Reading
he is finally stepping ahead to become officially part of Debian,
although only as a DM for now, is great news.

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Re: former DD

[Gunnar Wolf]

Nathan Hawkins dijo [Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 04:30:32PM -0400]:
 Ok. Can someone tell me why exactly I'm in removed-keys instead of emeritus? 
 I suspect that it's
 because I retired from Debian before the emeritus status existed.
 
 Nathan

If I understand correctly, it might be because you didn't properly
retire from Debian (i.e. you didn't inform the project with a signed
mail), but was found as inactive and missing.

If you _did_ announce your retirement, do you remember when was this?
Even better, do you have the message ID, so we can find it quickly in
the archives?

Greetings,

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Re: former DD

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Nathan Hawkins dijo [Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:15:46PM -0400]:
 I did announce it, but I believe I did that on -private. I suppose it should 
 have been debian-devel, and it should
 have been signed.  :-(
 
 There is a copy that I had forwarded to debian-bsd here:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2004/08/msg7.html
 
 As for being missing, I'm not aware of any attempts to contact me, and my 
 email address has not changed
 since the mid-90's.

It's OK if it's sent to -private, that's the usual way. It should have
been signed. But, well, having this mail... Is as far as I can
get. Anyway, it's refered on the thread (:

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Re: DM application for Xavier Oswald

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Hi,

As Xavier said, I recommend him as a DM (and invite him to push
harder, as I'd like to see him become a DD later on, of course). 

Xavier is an active member of the pkg-perl group (I'm Cc:ing this
message to our list, in case somebody wants to add or correct
something I say). He has prepared several packages, mostly regarding
authentication schemes in Perl (not all of them are listed in his QA
page [1] due to an internal reorganization decision [2] that we ended
up reverting in the pkg-perl group - Sorry, Xavier!). Basically, all
of the Authen::Simple modules are his. His packages are well
maintained - I recognize parted might be a hard package.

Looking a bit into his activities, he has been active in Debian for at
least two years - He was involved into an alternate partitioning tool
for d-i [3], although the project is mostly stalled (he was working on
this with svenl). Still, I see he is co-maintaining parted, so there
is indication of continuing interest.

He is one of the founders of the Debian France non-profit [4].

So, once again, I fully recommend him.

Greetings,

[1] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]comaint=yes

[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2008/01/msg00156.html

[3] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUI and
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg01358.html 

[4] http://blog.technologeek.org/2006/07/07/28

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Re: DM applicant Filipe Lautert

[Gunnar Wolf]

Filipe dijo [Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:47:44AM -0200]:
 after talking with one of my packages sponsor, and knowing that they are
 very busy at the moment and that if I could upload packages it would
 relief them of some work, I´m applying to DM. I´m also in the NM process
 and this is a shortcut to some rights that I want to have as a DD.
 
 So, I acknowledge and agree to the Debian Social Contract, the Debian Free
 Software guidelines, and the Debian Machine Usage Policies.
 
 I'll wait for a recommendation of one of my sponsors to fill a bug against
 debian-maintainers.

I have worked with Filipe as part of the pkg-ruby-extras team. He is
very enthusiastic, and technically very good. Of course, as he is
still a relative newcomer to Debian, every now and then his packaging
do need a minor tuning - but I'm sure Debian will be better off having
him as a maintainer than having him act through sponsors.

For the record, since we started working together, Filipe became
upstream of one of the most important and popular packages he
maintains in the group (Mongrel, a Ruby-based HTTP application
server). 

Greetings,

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Re: AM Report for Gunnar Wolf

[Gunnar Wolf]

 Hi

 Report for new developer applicant Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 (...)

Great! :-D

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