Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-06-02 Thread Jose Luis Rivas
On 05/30/2012 07:01 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: AFAICS, it is using jQuery and jQuery TableSorter, which are both free software. Admittedly, it is using a minified version of the libraries ... which is violation of their license. It's not. In fact, minified versions are shipped by the vendor

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
On 30 May 2012 23:33, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: In this context, it's a common idiom in American English (at least in my and British English. dialect; idioms can be very regional).  It does a good job of conveying the slow seeping of data through a complex system.  :) Indeed.

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-30 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:57:52PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: In fact, for some reason, jQuery's maintainer seems to prefer the former one over the latter. (See commit 77c67aa92705d6dd454053716cfefa2faab7b3aa in git://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-javascript/jquery.git). On Tue, May 29, 2012 at

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/29/2012 11:45 PM, Enrico Zini wrote: if someone could show me what tools are available that work and do an acceptable job. How about: apt-get install libjs-jquery At least you know it's fully free, and that it comes with security update support... Cheers, Thomas -- To

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/30/2012 01:12 AM, Enrico Zini wrote: It may take 20 minutes or so for the new password to percolate Is this the Italian inside you, who pushes to use the word percolate ? :) First time I read it in such context... I'd like sugar and milk with my password please! :P Thomas -- To

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: On 05/30/2012 01:12 AM, Enrico Zini wrote: It may take 20 minutes or so for the new password to percolate Is this the Italian inside you, who pushes to use the word percolate ? :) First time I read it in such context... In this context, it's a common

bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, work on nm.debian.org has continued, bringing a few interesting changes that need an announcement. * New simplified advocacy procedure In order to advocate people who are DMs or have a guest account in Debian machines (who therefore already have a page on nm.debian.org), any DD can look

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Enrico Zini dixit: [1] https://nm.debian.org/public/findperson/ No, the form is missing the submit button, this doesn’t work. [2] The DD needs to have their webpassword set, which every DD can do at https://db.debian.org/login.html This doesn’t work either, I can log into db.d.o but not

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 29/05/12 14:21, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Enrico Zini dixit: [1] https://nm.debian.org/public/findperson/ No, the form is missing the submit button, this doesn’t work. Did you enable JavaScript ? Did you try to hit enter? [2] The DD needs to have their webpassword set, which every DD

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org, 2012-05-29, 16:57: Why does it need JavaScript? Because searching for people for whom you are unsure of the spelling of the name works much better when you get results as you type. The form is also designed to be used by Front Desk to enter new people

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:10:11PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: It's infinitely less efficient for people who are not okay with running untrusted, often non-free (or even undistributable) code on their machines. Fantastic. Then you can follow the all people link on the same page. Or, even

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 29/05/12 17:10, Jakub Wilk wrote: It's infinitely less efficient for people who are not okay with running untrusted, often non-free (or even undistributable) code on their machines. I'm sorry but where do you see non-free code? AFAICS, it is using jQuery and jQuery TableSorter, which are

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:35PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: software. Admittedly, it is using a minified version of the libraries but I still would not qualify that by non-free. The rest of the JS Good point about the minified JS. I'm using the minified versions that are shipped with JQuery

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 29/05/12 17:45, Enrico Zini wrote: I wouldn't object to having only the original javascript library sources in nm.d.o's git and then building the minified versions at deploy time with tools available in Debian, if someone could show me what tools are available that work and do an acceptable

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Mehdi Dogguy dixit: On 29/05/12 14:21, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Enrico Zini dixit: [1] https://nm.debian.org/public/findperson/ No, the form is missing the submit button, this doesn’t work. Did you enable JavaScript ? Did you try to hit enter? I tried to hit Enter, yes. I must *strongly*

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 04:08:28PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I must *strongly* protest the creation of new webpages that are not accessible, and requiring ECMAscript is preventing all Lynx users from accessing it. Actually, no, I think you must not, or at the very least not *strongly*.

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Actually, no, I think you must not, or at the very least not *strongly*. Simply because you're not doing the work yourself. I think you should rather first of all say thanks for the work done. And then report a bug against nm.debian.org

Re: bits from the NM process: advocacy, no more AM reports, AMs needed

2012-05-29 Thread Jose Luis Rivas
On 05/29/2012 11:15 AM, Enrico Zini wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:35PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: software. Admittedly, it is using a minified version of the libraries but I still would not qualify that by non-free. The rest of the JS Good point about the minified JS. I'm using the