Re: Debian on iBook
On 08/31/2018 11:41 AM, Mick Bert wrote: > Can someone give me the correct line to add (or enable) to the > /etc/apt/source.list file? Just copy this one: > https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/sources.list -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Debian on iBook
Il giorno sab 11 ago 2018 alle ore 09:53 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> ha scritto: > On 08/11/2018 08:00 AM, Michele Bert wrote: > > Now, I can't find a valid mirror for package repository. What should I > select? > > Server: http://ftp.ports.debian.org > Directory: debian-ports/ > > Can someone give me the correct line to add (or enable) to the /etc/apt/source.list file? -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
Il giorno dom 12 ago 2018 alle ore 13:48 Mick ha scritto: > Il 11 agosto 2018 10:03:29 CEST, John Ogness ha > scritto: > >Hi Mick, > > > > > >This is no reason to panic. Keep in mind you can always boot from the > >Jessie installer and start a shell. And with chroot you can get into > >your system. > > > No panic, indeed. I was just joking > > >At this point your options are to install the jessie yaboot package and > >re-run ybin. Or you could install a fixed sid yaboot package and re-run > >ybin. > > > I tried to install yaboot 1.1.34, and it succeeded, but I can't install > same version of yaboot-installer, because of several unsatisfied > dipendencies. Is that needed? > > Anyway, I am trying to run ybin, as soon as I have sent this message... > Touch wood! > > No way, but it was just a fast test. It complains for proc filesystem non mounted, but I cannot mount procfilesys in my chroot-ed partition. So I suppose I can do the following (if someone want to confirm it): - boot with SID netinst CD - mount the root partition of newly installed system on my ibook - mount the /proc directory on the proc subdir of my system partition - maybe I'll do the same with sys directory - chroot to my system partition - run ybin from there (yaboot package already downgraded) - reboot all the system -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
On 2018-08-11, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
> I think the patch in question is here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00118.html.
>
> However from my work on OpenBIOS something doesn't seem quite right
> here - are you able to provide a complete log of the boot over the
> serial console or similar so we can look?
I've attached my device tree in case that might help. I extracted it
from sysfs after booting.
> My first query is whether you've ever changed the value of "load-base"
> from its default in OF? In my device tree dumps, the iBook reports a
> default load-base of 0x80, so that leaves plenty of space for the
> OF bootloader to load the yaboot bootstrap and then pull in the 2nd
> stage at 0x10.
I provided my OF information here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00124.html
load-base is 0x80.
The first time I ever started playing with OF when last October when I
was battling to get Debian/sid running (because yaboot was dying).
Google searches of the problem show that it is not uncommon for G4
iBooks to have this issue. The solution was always to install the older
yaboot 1.3.16, which I could confirm by booting with the Jessie
ISO. Last October I took the time to bisect the issue, which is what led
to my patch to revert the TEXTADDR.
I would be happy to try other patches if you think it is due to
something else.
John Ogness
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Re: Debian on iBook
Il 11 agosto 2018 10:03:29 CEST, John Ogness ha scritto: >Hi Mick, > > >This is no reason to panic. Keep in mind you can always boot from the >Jessie installer and start a shell. And with chroot you can get into >your system. > No panic, indeed. I was just joking >At this point your options are to install the jessie yaboot package and >re-run ybin. Or you could install a fixed sid yaboot package and re-run >ybin. > I tried to install yaboot 1.1.34, and it succeeded, but I can't install same version of yaboot-installer, because of several unsatisfied dipendencies. Is that needed? Anyway, I am trying to run ybin, as soon as I have sent this message... Touch wood! -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
On 11/08/18 08:53, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 08/11/2018 08:00 AM, Michele Bert wrote: >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00099.html >> >> Very interesting! >> >> I skipped first step, and followed the instructions using the yabook >> currently installed (through old ubuntu), and worked! > > I will upload a patched version of yaboot the next days. Can > someone point me at the patch again, please? I think the patch in question is here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00118.html. However from my work on OpenBIOS something doesn't seem quite right here - are you able to provide a complete log of the boot over the serial console or similar so we can look? My first query is whether you've ever changed the value of "load-base" from its default in OF? In my device tree dumps, the iBook reports a default load-base of 0x80, so that leaves plenty of space for the OF bootloader to load the yaboot bootstrap and then pull in the 2nd stage at 0x10. It might be that I can figure out the issue by setting up a qemu-system-ppc and (manually hacked) OpenBIOS in the same way. ATB, Mark.
Re: Debian on iBook
On 2018-08-11, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I will upload a patched version of yaboot the next days. Thank you! > Can someone point me at the patch again, please? https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00118.html John Ogness
Re: Debian on iBook
Hi Mick, On 2018-08-11, Michele Bert wrote: >> Is yaboot still used as the installer? I also have an iBook and >> reported [0] and provided a fix [1] for a very similar issue relating >> to yaboot back in October 2017. My fix was never picked up because >> yaboot was supposed to be replaced with grub. > > Noo! > > I managed to install the system, but it installed the bugged yaboot > version! I didn't thought that before, but thinking now, it is obvous! > > Now I have the system not booting, because the installed yaboot give > the "decrementer exception". This is no reason to panic. Keep in mind you can always boot from the Jessie installer and start a shell. And with chroot you can get into your system. At this point your options are to install the jessie yaboot package and re-run ybin. Or you could install a fixed sid yaboot package and re-run ybin. I've uploaded a fixed sid yaboot package to my private server: http://ogness.net/debian/yaboot/ Whether or not you want to trust my key/signature is up to you. > Now the question is: who of you have this sistem running on similar > machine, which version of yaboot are using? I am typing this email from the exact same laptop that you are trying to get running. Once you get a working yaboot installed, everything will run fine. And there are plenty of mails on this list that will provide information about moving from yaboot to grub, which although unnecessary, is the preferred boot loader going forward. John Ogness
Re: Debian on iBook
On 08/11/2018 08:00 AM, Michele Bert wrote: >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00099.html > > Very interesting! > > I skipped first step, and followed the instructions using the yabook > currently installed (through old ubuntu), and worked! I will upload a patched version of yaboot the next days. Can someone point me at the patch again, please? > Now, I can't find a valid mirror for package repository. What should I select? Server: http://ftp.ports.debian.org Directory: debian-ports/ This is a missing feature in Debian Installer which doesn't provide a mirror list for Debian Ports at the moment. This is also going to be fixed soonish. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Debian on iBook
Il 09/08/18 20:02, John Ogness ha scritto: I haven't looked at the latest sid netinst ISO, but if it is still yaboot based, the easiest thing to do is probably to use the jessie bootloader to springboard into the sid install: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00099.html Very interesting! I skipped first step, and followed the instructions using the yabook currently installed (through old ubuntu), and worked! Now, I can't find a valid mirror for package repository. What should I select? -- Mick Bert
Re: Debian on iBook
On 2018-08-09, Mick Bert wrote: > Do you think if I install an older version, than upgrade, it would > work? Where can I download an iso of older version? I haven't looked at the latest sid netinst ISO, but if it is still yaboot based, the easiest thing to do is probably to use the jessie bootloader to springboard into the sid install: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00099.html John Ogness
Re: Debian on iBook
2018-08-08 22:53 GMT+02:00 John Ogness : > Hi Mick, > > On 2018-08-08, Mick Bert wrote: > >> You can fetch the installation image here: > >> > >>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ > >> > >> Let me know if you run into issues. There have been recently changes > >> on the server side for PowerPC for which we should build fresh > >> installation images. But I haven't done this for a while now. > >> > >> If the installation fails, I have a good reason to finally do that. > >> > > Actually the installation fails, already at boot time: it leads to > > something like an openfirmware console, where I can either reboot or > > shutdown: > > > > Decrementer exception at %SRR0: 001001d8 %SRR1: 10003030 > > > > Apple PowerBook6,5 4.8.7f1 BootROM built on 09/23/04 at 16:13:38 > > Is yaboot still used as the installer? I also have an iBook and reported > [0] and provided a fix [1] for a very similar issue relating to yaboot > back in October 2017. My fix was never picked up because yaboot was > supposed to be replaced with grub. > > > Infact it is similar. Do you think if I install an older version, than upgrade, it would work? Where can I download an iso of older version? -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
Hi Mick, On 2018-08-08, Mick Bert wrote: >> You can fetch the installation image here: >> >>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ >> >> Let me know if you run into issues. There have been recently changes >> on the server side for PowerPC for which we should build fresh >> installation images. But I haven't done this for a while now. >> >> If the installation fails, I have a good reason to finally do that. >> > Actually the installation fails, already at boot time: it leads to > something like an openfirmware console, where I can either reboot or > shutdown: > > Decrementer exception at %SRR0: 001001d8 %SRR1: 10003030 > > Apple PowerBook6,5 4.8.7f1 BootROM built on 09/23/04 at 16:13:38 Is yaboot still used as the installer? I also have an iBook and reported [0] and provided a fix [1] for a very similar issue relating to yaboot back in October 2017. My fix was never picked up because yaboot was supposed to be replaced with grub. This email probably won't help you. But if yaboot is still used, maybe someone will reconsider picking up my patch for yaboot. Or is it required that I file a Debian bug? [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00089.html [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2017/10/msg00118.html John Ogness
Re: Debian on iBook
2018-07-30 13:22 GMT+02:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > Hi Mick! > > On 07/30/2018 10:01 AM, Mick Bert wrote: >> I subscribed this list beacuse I got an old apple iBook, and I am looking for an operative system to keep it alive. > > You're at the right place then if that operating system is Linux. > >> Currently a Lubuntu is installed, I am not so much satisfied. I heard somewhere that Debian if perhaps the latest supported distribution for PowerPC architecture, but I realize just now that older processors are not supported any more by the latest stable version. > > Yes, the latest stable version of Debian dropped support for 32-Bit > PowerPC. However, you can still install the unstable version of Debian > which should run smoothly on your iBook (at least it does on my iBook G4). > > You can fetch the installation image here: > >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ > > Let me know if you run into issues. There have been recently changes > on the server side for PowerPC for which we should build fresh > installation images. But I haven't done this for a while now. > > If the installation fails, I have a good reason to finally do that. > Actually the installation fails, already at boot time: it leads to something like an openfirmware console, where I can either reboot or shutdown: Decrementer exception at %SRR0: 001001d8 %SRR1: 10003030 Apple PowerBook6,5 4.8.7f1 BootROM built on 09/23/04 at 16:13:38 Copyright 1994-2004 Apple Computer, Inc All Righs Reserved. Welcome to Open Firmware, the system time and date is: 22:07:38 07/31/2018 The battery capacity is: 76 percent To continue booting, type "mac-boot" and press return To shut down, type "shut-down" and press retur. ok 0 > With mac-boot it repeats all the boot, getting back to this screen. If I remove the CD, it boots regularly to the old installation of LUbuntu Any hint? -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
On 07/30/2018 02:15 PM, Mick Bert wrote: > > Now comes my question: is there a way to install version 8? > > You should install version 10.0. > > Curious. The support has been dropped after version 8, and has been resumed > for 10? No, it's an unofficial release. It's still a regular version of Debian but you don't get the full support that you get with a full release. So, if something breaks, it's not considered serious although we're going to fix it. > Anyway, I will download the image you suggest me as soon as possible. Thanks > for the hint. Please join the IRC channel #debian-ports on OFTC if you can to receive support. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Debian on iBook
2018-07-30 13:22 GMT+02:00 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>: > Hi Mick! > > On 07/30/2018 10:01 AM, Mick Bert wrote: > > I subscribed this list beacuse I got an old apple iBook, and I am > looking for an operative system to keep it alive. > > You're at the right place then if that operating system is Linux. > Of course it is! > Now comes my question: is there a way to install version 8? > > You should install version 10.0. > > Curious. The support has been dropped after version 8, and has been resumed for 10? Anyway, I will download the image you suggest me as soon as possible. Thanks for the hint. -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook
Hi Mick! On 07/30/2018 10:01 AM, Mick Bert wrote: > I subscribed this list beacuse I got an old apple iBook, and I am looking for > an operative system to keep it alive. You're at the right place then if that operating system is Linux. > Currently a Lubuntu is installed, I am not so much satisfied. I heard > somewhere that Debian if perhaps the latest supported distribution for > PowerPC architecture, but I realize just now that older processors are not > supported any more by the latest stable version. Yes, the latest stable version of Debian dropped support for 32-Bit PowerPC. However, you can still install the unstable version of Debian which should run smoothly on your iBook (at least it does on my iBook G4). You can fetch the installation image here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ Let me know if you run into issues. There have been recently changes on the server side for PowerPC for which we should build fresh installation images. But I haven't done this for a while now. If the installation fails, I have a good reason to finally do that. > Now comes my question: is there a way to install version 8? You should install version 10.0. > Does it worth? > Are there someone in this list, still using some old apple hardware? Yes. There are even people running Linux on m68k Apple hardware ;-). Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Debian on iBook
Hello all. I subscribed this list beacuse I got an old apple iBook, and I am looking for an operative system to keep it alive. Currently a Lubuntu is installed, I am not so much satisfied. I heard somewhere that Debian if perhaps the latest supported distribution for PowerPC architecture, but I realize just now that older processors are not supported any more by the latest stable version. Now comes my question: is there a way to install version 8? Does it worth? Are there someone in this list, still using some old apple hardware? -- Mick
Re: Debian on iBook G4 Running OSX Tiger
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Graham Todd wrote: I have recently obtained a Mac iBook G4 running OSX Tiger, and after very good experiences using Debian on a Windows laptop, I tried to get my head round the instructions without success, I wonder if some kind soul could give me easy instructions on how to install it on a Mac iBook G4. I found this: https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac Wow. That's old and not very informative. The link on that page to the installation guide does get you more up-to-date information, however: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ Shoot. That has a lot of old information in it, too. And I think all the people who could update it are busy or have left, or both (like me). Still, take the hour or two to scan through that and note the stuff that seems to be PPC specific. You won't understand the openfirmware notes, I suppose, but read them anyway. cheers, I dont have any Tiger installation disks Well, that's no fun. Does Tiger boot? Do you trust it not to have malware that would install backdoors on Linux installation CDs? If you use Mac OS to download and burn he install CDs, you need to be careful how you do it. The easy way to save an install imge to a CD or DVD ends up just saving an install image to a CD or DVD. I think you have similar problems on MSWindows systems. I think my memory tells me that you can right-click the image file and get a menu that inlcudes the option to burn the image to disk. Or select the image file and look in the menu bar menus for an entry that says it will burn the image to disk. I think there's one other way, but it's not coming to me, and, frankly, I'm demotivated to try installing Jessie on my one remaining functional PPC Mac to remind myself how. I think you can burn the install CD on a Linux system without too much fuss. CDs are cheap enough, give it a try. and I'm not sure if any specific versions of Debian are required. No. Any version that includes PPC should fly. I've done it with wheezy and squeeze. I intent to partition the hard drive for Debian only. That eases things up a bit. Can this be done Of course. and can easily understood instructions be referred to to help me? Don't think too hard about it, for starters. Now that you've read the stuff on the debian site tell yourself it's mostly old information. If you can get the network install image burned on a CD properly, boot it with the magic keys. (What were those? oh, yeah, according to my ancient blog post about doing this with Fedora on a clamshell, it's just holding the C key down while the machine boots with the install CD in the CD drive. If you are interested, that post is here: http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2009/05/fedora-on-old-clamshell-ibook.html It may explain some things, may confuse you with unnecesary information.) Once the installer is booted, just answer the questions. Since you don't want to dual-boot, you really shouldn't have to pay too much attention to things. Don't worry that it seems to need one or two more partitions than it should, you won't run short of partitions. Don't worry about openfirmware, the way they have it set up to relay through the partitions should make booting automatic. Oh, there is a PowerPC list for debian. I'll cross-post this to it, to save you some trouble finding it. And have fun. -- bGraham Todd/b - Joel Roth -- Joel Rees Be careful when you look at conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iOtyt8dkRk+pjm0x9yeiL=zahf6qjkuyfbvpsajyw_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian on iBook G4 Running OSX Tiger
If you are looking for debian install walk through for PPC then checkout these two places. http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/ And http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2013/07/quick-and-dirty-light-and-fast.html Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Graham Todd wrote: I have recently obtained a Mac iBook G4 running OSX Tiger, and after very good experiences using Debian on a Windows laptop, I tried to get my head round the instructions without success, I wonder if some kind soul could give me easy instructions on how to install it on a Mac iBook G4. I found this: https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac Wow. That's old and not very informative. The link on that page to the installation guide does get you more up-to-date information, however: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ Shoot. That has a lot of old information in it, too. And I think all the people who could update it are busy or have left, or both (like me). Still, take the hour or two to scan through that and note the stuff that seems to be PPC specific. You won't understand the openfirmware notes, I suppose, but read them anyway. cheers, I dont have any Tiger installation disks Well, that's no fun. Does Tiger boot? Do you trust it not to have malware that would install backdoors on Linux installation CDs? If you use Mac OS to download and burn he install CDs, you need to be careful how you do it. The easy way to save an install imge to a CD or DVD ends up just saving an install image to a CD or DVD. I think you have similar problems on MSWindows systems. I think my memory tells me that you can right-click the image file and get a menu that inlcudes the option to burn the image to disk. Or select the image file and look in the menu bar menus for an entry that says it will burn the image to disk. I think there's one other way, but it's not coming to me, and, frankly, I'm demotivated to try installing Jessie on my one remaining functional PPC Mac to remind myself how. I think you can burn the install CD on a Linux system without too much fuss. CDs are cheap enough, give it a try. and I'm not sure if any specific versions of Debian are required. No. Any version that includes PPC should fly. I've done it with wheezy and squeeze. I intent to partition the hard drive for Debian only. That eases things up a bit. Can this be done Of course. and can easily understood instructions be referred to to help me? Don't think too hard about it, for starters. Now that you've read the stuff on the debian site tell yourself it's mostly old information. If you can get the network install image burned on a CD properly, boot it with the magic keys. (What were those? oh, yeah, according to my ancient blog post about doing this with Fedora on a clamshell, it's just holding the C key down while the machine boots with the install CD in the CD drive. If you are interested, that post is here: http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2009/05/fedora-on-old-clamshell-ibook.html It may explain some things, may confuse you with unnecesary information.) Once the installer is booted, just answer the questions. Since you don't want to dual-boot, you really shouldn't have to pay too much attention to things. Don't worry that it seems to need one or two more partitions than it should, you won't run short of partitions. Don't worry about openfirmware, the way they have it set up to relay through the partitions should make booting automatic. Oh, there is a PowerPC list for debian. I'll cross-post this to it, to save you some trouble finding it. And have fun. -- bGraham Todd/b - Joel Roth -- Joel Rees Be careful when you look at conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iOtyt8dkRk+pjm0x9yeiL=zahf6qjkuyfbvpsajyw_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian on iBook G4
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 22:17 +0100, ruben wrote: Besides that, I also noticed that I no longer have 3d hardware acceleration. I actually discovered that before I wiped the iBook and it had to do with older drivers being dropped during the transition to KMS. Anything changed on that topic? No. Upstream Mesa Radeon drivers no longer work without KMS. Finally, I noticed that the ondemand governor on current kernels no longer works with the G4. If I'm not mistaken, this did work with older kernels, so I'm a bit surprised. You're mistaken, ondemand traditionally never worked on *Books. But the patch from https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-dev/2012-October/101799.html has been working well for me. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://www.amd.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358845413.13893.107.camel@thor.local
debian on iBook G4
Hello, I am an old-time debian user and had debian installed on my iBook G4 since around 2007. However, something must have hit my head a couple of months ago and I thought OSX might be more useful for this old laptop, since I mainly use it for browsing anyway. So I wiped it clean and put OSX on it. This didn't last very long though, and I decided I wanted debian back, so I took the netinstall for powerpc testing and installed that. However, I noticed that gtkpbbuttons and powerprefs is no longer maintained in the debian repos. I definitely still had gtkpbbuttons installed when I wiped it clean, but I'm not sure about powerprefs. I've always used pbbuttonsd, gtkpbbuttons and powerprefs on my ibook and never had any complaints about it. It seems weird to me that pbbuttonsd is still there and the other 2 were dropped. Hmm... looks like pbbuttonsd has been orphaned... Because of that, I wonder if there are any alternatives maintained for those programs? I heard about pommed, but it's still not clear to me if it's really an alternative for pbbuttonsd on powerpc machines. Besides that, I also noticed that I no longer have 3d hardware acceleration. I actually discovered that before I wiped the iBook and it had to do with older drivers being dropped during the transition to KMS. Anything changed on that topic? In any case, my glxinfo claims I'm using the software rasterizer. Related to that, I also noticed that the terminals become unreadable whenever I shutdown the display manager... and become readable again as soon as I start a display manager.. any tips on that? I don't know if this is important, but I use lightdm as a display manager and i3wm as a window manager. Also, I configured middle and right click as fn-ctrl and fn-option, but it does not seem to work consistently. I enabled it with the following in /etc/sysctl.conf. Any hints on that? # enable mouse button emulation dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1 Finally, I noticed that the ondemand governor on current kernels no longer works with the G4. If I'm not mistaken, this did work with older kernels, so I'm a bit surprised. Which kind of external tools can be used to get similar behavior? Hoping to get some advice from other people that are still using iBooks/PowerBooks. cheers, Ruben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajh4lrmt0y_hxdjbvh22_sewd1x6lwwfyj48dcjfsvgddm1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian on iBook G4
--- On Mon, 1/21/13, ruben ruben@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... looks like pbbuttonsd has been orphaned... Because of that, I wonder if there are any alternatives maintained for those programs? I heard about pommed, but it's still not clear to me if it's really an alternative for pbbuttonsd on powerpc machines. I don't think pommed does power-saving things like spin down the hard drive, but I've never used it. I used to use powerprefs to configure pbbuttonsd, but now I just edit /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf. It's not too hard. I also noticed that the terminals become unreadable whenever I shutdown the display manager... Happens to me, too, when I shut down the display manager to create a xorg.conf file. That was the only time I had to, so I didn't investigate it. Also, I configured middle and right click as fn-ctrl and fn-option, but it does not seem to work consistently. I enabled it with the following in /etc/sysctl.conf. Any hints on that? # enable mouse button emulation dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1 Mine looks like this and works fine: dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 97 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 96 97 is fn + ctrl and 96 is the enter key next to the right command key. If you have mouseemu installed, that might cause a conflict. Finally, I noticed that the ondemand governor on current kernels no longer works with the G4. If I'm not mistaken, this did work with older kernels, so I'm a bit surprised. Which kind of external tools can be used to get similar behavior? There's cpufreqd, but it's kind of a hassle to set up. There used to be powernowd, but I think that's in the process of being removed. Ubuntu's PowerPC FAQ has some advice to install it. After powernowd got removed from Testing by some overzealous purger, I just decided to not bother with any of it. -- Debian PowerPC Install Guide at http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358809866.56220.yahoomailclas...@web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Fwd: debian on iBook G4
Was supposed to go to the mailing list... -- Forwarded message -- From: ruben ruben@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:37 AM Subject: Re: debian on iBook G4 To: Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think pommed does power-saving things like spin down the hard drive, but I've never used it. I used to use powerprefs to configure pbbuttonsd, but now I just edit /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf. It's not too hard. Ok, I should still have that config file somewhere. I also noticed that the terminals become unreadable whenever I shutdown the display manager... Happens to me, too, when I shut down the display manager to create a xorg.conf file. That was the only time I had to, so I didn't investigate it. ok Mine looks like this and works fine: dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 97 dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 96 97 is fn + ctrl and 96 is the enter key next to the right command key. If you have mouseemu installed, that might cause a conflict. Hah.. my enter key is remapped to a right control. But thanks for mentioning mouseemu. It seems I have mouseemu installed... I'll uninstall that one and I hope that's why it's acting weird. Finally, I noticed that the ondemand governor on current kernels no longer works with the G4. If I'm not mistaken, this did work with older kernels, so I'm a bit surprised. Which kind of external tools can be used to get similar behavior? There's cpufreqd, but it's kind of a hassle to set up. There used to be powernowd, but I think that's in the process of being removed. Ubuntu's PowerPC FAQ has some advice to install it. After powernowd got removed from Testing by some overzealous purger, I just decided to not bother with any of it. Ok... I'll check it. I also remember that I had laptop-mode-tools installed, maybe I'll install that again. thanks, Ruben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajh4lrnauzmj0cyea-nrgmjgesv3tgzsc1spn+x8938gvnr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian on iBook G4
I too have found this bug, and it slays me that I cannot find a way to accurately phrase the problem, or guess what exactly is the software responsible for the bug. I'm certain that it's not that the virtual console needs a window manager running to be readable, because during bootup there is a significant time after initial console font switching and before the window manager stops where the text is readable. Peter Rooney On 01/21/13 13:17, ruben wrote: [ snip ] I'm using the software rasterizer. Related to that, I also noticed that the terminals become unreadable whenever I shutdown the display manager... and become readable again as soon as I start a display manager.. any tips on that? I don't know if this is important, but I use lightdm as a display manager and i3wm as a window manager. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fde684.30...@shaw.ca
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi yet again, Gunther.
On Apr 26 2009, Gunther Furtado wrote:
domingo, 26 de abril de 2009, Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br escreveu:
I would warmly be receptive of this card, if possible.
There are two ifs. If you don't mind a little waiting
No, I don't mind.
or If the tests I wanto to run give me a positive response (the
resurection of the iBook).
I'm waiting for the results. If you have already tested said iBook,
please let me know by private mail.
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Hi yet again, Gunther.
Somehow, I missed this message earlier, for some strange reason.
On Apr 21 2009, Gunther Furtado wrote:
2009/4/21 Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br:
Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in
Brazil, but I would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook
G3 600MHz.
Have you looked in forum.macnews.com.br? I found one there earlier
this year.
No, I didn't even know about it.
If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me.
The iBook I got it for is half-dead now, when the healthy half dies
(waiting for I friend of mine to have time to disassemble/reasassemble
it) I could have an useless one here in Curitiba.
I would warmly be receptive of this card, if possible.
Thanks, Rogério Brito.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi, Esteban.
On Apr 21 2009, Esteban Monge wrote:
Hello, you can buy one airport card in Ebay, I bought one and works great,
you need follow the next tutto.
http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com/2009/02/actualizar-el-driver-orino-de-las.html
I'm not quite familiar with dealing with ebay and the brazilian version
of ebay (mercado livre) has none.
Also in Ebay sell a USB airport Adapter, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux compatible,
An USB airport adapter? Do you mean wifi adapter?
have one Realtek Chipset, in the home page of Realtek have the source
drivers (the CD have binary i386 drivers).
If you meant wifi adapter, I've already got one, but it is not always
feasible to use an USB dongle in every place you go. For instance, when
I was in a scientific conference, I had to use my iBook for burning a CD
with the slides to give a talk scheduled to start in less than 5
minutes.
In places like this, an USB thingy is not as convenient to use. :-(
Thanks anyway, Rogério Brito.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
domingo, 26 de abril de 2009, Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br escreveu: Hi yet again, Gunther. Hi, Somehow, I missed this message earlier, for some strange reason. On Apr 21 2009, Gunther Furtado wrote: 2009/4/21 Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br: Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in Brazil, but I would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook G3 600MHz. Have you looked in forum.macnews.com.br? I found one there earlier this year. No, I didn't even know about it. If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me. The iBook I got it for is half-dead now, when the healthy half dies (waiting for I friend of mine to have time to disassemble/reasassemble it) I could have an useless one here in Curitiba. I would warmly be receptive of this card, if possible. There are two ifs. If you don't mind a little waiting or If the tests I wanto to run give me a positive response (the resurection of the iBook). Thanks, Rogério Brito. You are welcome, -- Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
2009/4/26 Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com domingo, 26 de abril de 2009, Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br escreveu: Hi yet again, Gunther. Hi, Somehow, I missed this message earlier, for some strange reason. On Apr 21 2009, Gunther Furtado wrote: 2009/4/21 Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br: Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in Brazil, but I would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook G3 600MHz. Have you looked in forum.macnews.com.br? I found one there earlier this year. No, I didn't even know about it. If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me. The iBook I got it for is half-dead now, when the healthy half dies (waiting for I friend of mine to have time to disassemble/reasassemble it) I could have an useless one here in Curitiba. I would warmly be receptive of this card, if possible. There are two ifs. If you don't mind a little waiting or If the tests I wanto to run give me a positive response (the resurection of the iBook). Thanks, Rogério Brito. You are welcome, -- Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org An USB airport adapter? Do you mean wifi adapter? Sorry, its a wifi usb adapter... the disadvantage that it occupies a USB and little aesthetic, but functional, check the realtek wifi chipset and buy the correct for GNU/Linux The chipset are: RT8187B and RTL8187L (the last works great I have one, and works with Mac OSX 10.3, also for not install a big OSX). Can check more information in www.realtek.com.tw This is the list of drivers and chipsets: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PFid=1Level=6Conn=5ProdID=36DownTypeID=3GetDown=falseDownloads=true Sorry for my bad english... -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi there, people.
It's been a long time since I last followed debian-powerpc, but I am back to my
activities.
I have one question, though.
On 02/10/2009 02:31 AM, Geoff Simmons wrote:
The original Apple AirPort Card uses a Hermes chipset, which is supported by
the orinoco driver provided in mainline kernels.
Is it possible to get an original airport card nowadays? I would love to have
one (it doesn't matter if it is used, as long as it is working correctly).
Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in Brazil, but I
would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook G3 600MHz.
If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me.
Thanks, Rogério Brito.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi,
2009/4/21 Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br:
Hi there, people.
It's been a long time since I last followed debian-powerpc, but I am back to
my activities.
I have one question, though.
On 02/10/2009 02:31 AM, Geoff Simmons wrote:
The original Apple AirPort Card uses a Hermes chipset, which is supported
by
the orinoco driver provided in mainline kernels.
Is it possible to get an original airport card nowadays? I would love to
have one (it doesn't matter if it is used, as long as it is working
correctly).
Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in Brazil,
but I would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook G3 600MHz.
Have you looked in forum.macnews.com.br? I found one there earlier this year.
If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me.
The iBook I got it for is half-dead now, when the healthy half dies
(waiting for I friend of mine to have time to disassemble/reasassemble
it) I could have an useless one here in Curitiba.
Thanks, Rogério Brito.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
2009/4/21 Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com
Hi,
2009/4/21 Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br:
Hi there, people.
It's been a long time since I last followed debian-powerpc, but I am back
to
my activities.
I have one question, though.
On 02/10/2009 02:31 AM, Geoff Simmons wrote:
The original Apple AirPort Card uses a Hermes chipset, which is
supported
by
the orinoco driver provided in mainline kernels.
Is it possible to get an original airport card nowadays? I would love to
have one (it doesn't matter if it is used, as long as it is working
correctly).
Unfortunately, I can't find almost anything apple-related here in Brazil,
but I would still like to put one of those cards in my iBook G3 600MHz.
Have you looked in forum.macnews.com.br? I found one there earlier this
year.
If anybody could send me one, please get in touch with me.
The iBook I got it for is half-dead now, when the healthy half dies
(waiting for I friend of mine to have time to disassemble/reasassemble
it) I could have an useless one here in Curitiba.
Thanks, Rogério Brito.
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Hello, you can buy one airport card in Ebay, I bought one and works great,
you need follow the next tutto.
http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com/2009/02/actualizar-el-driver-orino-de-las.html
Also the wiki of Debian:
http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco
Also in Ebay sell a USB airport Adapter, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux compatible,
have one Realtek Chipset, in the home page of Realtek have the source
drivers (the CD have binary i386 drivers).
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Wireless-WiFi-for-Apple-Mac-iMac-G4-OS-X-10-3-10-4_W0QQitemZ120401973658QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120401973658_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
First ask the chipset and check in realtek the compatibility, because one of
the chips dont work with mac os x 10.3 or later, but in linux works all.
Next you can use WiCD for networking administration:
http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com/2009/04/redes-inalambricas-con-debian-gnulinux.html
Also can use add the backports and install wicd.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
segunda, 23 de fevereiro de 2009, Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com escreveu: Hello good news, in my home I can connect with the wireless!!! But in my job not =( I only try with ifup eth1, step by step I can!!! the next step is the network in my job. Hi, And what exactly did you do to make it work? How is your /etc/network/interface? [...] cheers, PS: (in portuguese, about top posting) Por favor, coloque suas respostas depois das perguntas, assim fica mais fácil para qualquer leitor entender a conversa, gracias! -- Gunther Furtado Curitiba - PR - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hello good news, in my home I can connect with the wireless!!!
But in my job not =(
I only try with ifup eth1, step by step I can!!! the next step is the
network in my job.
Thanks to all...
2009/2/20 Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com:
My idea is create a little xdialog program to conect with my home, my work,
or open wireless networks, also like run the command for study and learn in
one future I want help more people... =)
Thanks Geoff for your patiente and attention!!! Also to the rest of the
list, your help is great.
2009/2/20 Geoff Simmons gsimm...@gsimmons.org
Hi Esteban,
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:58:23AM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
Hello again I checked the process again and have the next problem, I run
the
next command:
mimaquina:/# wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
The wpa_supplicant output you provided looks fine, as your device is
associated
to a WPA-protected access point. I am not sure why you are executing this
command directly, instead of just using ifup eth1.
My wpa_supplicant.conf file is:
[snip]
network
{
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
This configuration block is invalid. Executing wpa_supplicant directly
would
have complained to you about it:
Line 7: Invalid configuration line 'network'.
Line 8: Invalid configuration line '{'.
Line 9: Invalid configuration line 'ssid=linksys'.
(etc.)
Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
It should use the following syntax (note the first line):
network={
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
(etc.)
}
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
[snip]
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I need help...
You need help with what, exactly? wpa_supplicant - and the orinoco
driver, by
extension - appear to be working correctly.
I'm assuming because you executed wpa_supplicant manually, you didn't run
dhclient eth1 to obtain a DHCP lease after association, in order for an
IP
address to be assigned to this wireless interface.
Run ifup eth1 instead, as this will call both wpa_supplicant and
dhclient as
necessary. See also interfaces(5).
Geoff
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Tel: (506) 8379-3562
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grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las
economías foráneas y nosotros nos
quedemos con solo negocios de pobre,
mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro
propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de
empleados del exterior
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi Esteban,
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:58:23AM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
Hello again I checked the process again and have the next problem, I run the
next command:
mimaquina:/# wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
The wpa_supplicant output you provided looks fine, as your device is associated
to a WPA-protected access point. I am not sure why you are executing this
command directly, instead of just using ifup eth1.
My wpa_supplicant.conf file is:
[snip]
network
{
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
This configuration block is invalid. Executing wpa_supplicant directly would
have complained to you about it:
Line 7: Invalid configuration line 'network'.
Line 8: Invalid configuration line '{'.
Line 9: Invalid configuration line 'ssid=linksys'.
(etc.)
Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
It should use the following syntax (note the first line):
network={
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
(etc.)
}
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
[snip]
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I need help...
You need help with what, exactly? wpa_supplicant - and the orinoco driver, by
extension - appear to be working correctly.
I'm assuming because you executed wpa_supplicant manually, you didn't run
dhclient eth1 to obtain a DHCP lease after association, in order for an IP
address to be assigned to this wireless interface.
Run ifup eth1 instead, as this will call both wpa_supplicant and dhclient as
necessary. See also interfaces(5).
Geoff
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
My idea is create a little xdialog program to conect with my home, my work,
or open wireless networks, also like run the command for study and learn in
one future I want help more people... =)
Thanks Geoff for your patiente and attention!!! Also to the rest of the
list, your help is great.
2009/2/20 Geoff Simmons gsimm...@gsimmons.org
Hi Esteban,
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:58:23AM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
Hello again I checked the process again and have the next problem, I run
the
next command:
mimaquina:/# wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
The wpa_supplicant output you provided looks fine, as your device is
associated
to a WPA-protected access point. I am not sure why you are executing this
command directly, instead of just using ifup eth1.
My wpa_supplicant.conf file is:
[snip]
network
{
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
This configuration block is invalid. Executing wpa_supplicant directly
would
have complained to you about it:
Line 7: Invalid configuration line 'network'.
Line 8: Invalid configuration line '{'.
Line 9: Invalid configuration line 'ssid=linksys'.
(etc.)
Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
It should use the following syntax (note the first line):
network={
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
(etc.)
}
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
[snip]
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I need help...
You need help with what, exactly? wpa_supplicant - and the orinoco driver,
by
extension - appear to be working correctly.
I'm assuming because you executed wpa_supplicant manually, you didn't run
dhclient eth1 to obtain a DHCP lease after association, in order for an
IP
address to be assigned to this wireless interface.
Run ifup eth1 instead, as this will call both wpa_supplicant and dhclient
as
necessary. See also interfaces(5).
Geoff
--
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Linux user number 478378
Linux machine number 386687
Tec. Esteban Monge Marín
Tel: (506) 8379-3562
No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de
la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios
grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las
economías foráneas y nosotros nos
quedemos con solo negocios de pobre,
mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro
propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de
empleados del exterior
José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hello again I checked the process again and have the next problem, I run the
next command:
mimaquina:/# wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 (SSID='linksys' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy
ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
Associated with 44:44:44:44:44:44
Associated with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8
Associated with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8
WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 [PTK=TKIP GTK=TKIP]
CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 completed (auth)
[id=0 id_str=]
WPA: Group rekeying completed with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 [GTK=TKIP]
My wpa_supplicant.conf file is:
# WPA-PSK/TKIP
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
eapol_version=1
fast_reauth=1
network
{
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I need help...
2009/2/10 Geoff Simmons gsimm...@gsimmons.org
Hi Esteban,
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:46:32PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
I update the kernel to 2.6.28-rc1
You would be better off using a released (ie. non-rc) 2.6.28 kernel, which
can
be acquired through a Debian kernel snapshot package for your system. This
is
described in the orinoco Debian Wiki page previously mentioned to you.
I configured the wpa_supplicant.conf:
[snip]
ctrl_interface_group=0
[..]
ap_scan=2
Why are you specifying these options? The version of wpa_supplicant in
Lenny
(0.6.4) does not require ap_scan=2, this is only necessary for
wpa_supplicant
versions = 0.5.7 with the orinoco driver. Also, ctrl_interface_group is
deprecated. These configuration options should be removed unless
absolutely
required.
Please try using a 2.6.28 kernel image from kernel-archive.buildserver.netand
ensure you have acquired and installed the necessary Agere station firmware
(agere_sta_fw.bin). Refer to the orinoco page on the Debian Wiki for
instructions.
At the very least, verify WPA-PSK supported is shown in the kernel ring
buffer (dmesg) after loading the orinoco driver.
Geoff
--
http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com
Linux user number 478378
Linux machine number 386687
Tec. Esteban Monge Marín
Tel: (506) 8379-3562
No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de
la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios
grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las
economías foráneas y nosotros nos
quedemos con solo negocios de pobre,
mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro
propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de
empleados del exterior
José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi Esteban,
I don't know if it maybe helpful for you. I admit I configrured Wi-Fi and
forgot all about it since it works fine. Here is mine wpa_supplicant.conf:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=root
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
eapol_version=1
network={
ssid=network_name
psk=password # or psk=0123456789abcdef
priority=5
}
and interfaces:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
Don't ask me what it means, but it works here.
Piotr
2009/2/18 Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com
Hello again I checked the process again and have the next problem, I run
the next command:
mimaquina:/# wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 (SSID='linksys' freq=2437 MHz)
ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy
ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not supported
Association request to the driver failed
Associated with 44:44:44:44:44:44
Associated with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8
Associated with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8
WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 [PTK=TKIP GTK=TKIP]
CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 completed (auth)
[id=0 id_str=]
WPA: Group rekeying completed with 00:14:bf:a6:43:e8 [GTK=TKIP]
My wpa_supplicant.conf file is:
# WPA-PSK/TKIP
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
eapol_version=1
fast_reauth=1
network
{
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I need help...
2009/2/10 Geoff Simmons gsimm...@gsimmons.org
Hi Esteban,
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:46:32PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
I update the kernel to 2.6.28-rc1
You would be better off using a released (ie. non-rc) 2.6.28 kernel, which
can
be acquired through a Debian kernel snapshot package for your system.
This is
described in the orinoco Debian Wiki page previously mentioned to you.
I configured the wpa_supplicant.conf:
[snip]
ctrl_interface_group=0
[..]
ap_scan=2
Why are you specifying these options? The version of wpa_supplicant in
Lenny
(0.6.4) does not require ap_scan=2, this is only necessary for
wpa_supplicant
versions = 0.5.7 with the orinoco driver. Also, ctrl_interface_group is
deprecated. These configuration options should be removed unless
absolutely
required.
Please try using a 2.6.28 kernel image from
kernel-archive.buildserver.net and
ensure you have acquired and installed the necessary Agere station
firmware
(agere_sta_fw.bin). Refer to the orinoco page on the Debian Wiki for
instructions.
At the very least, verify WPA-PSK supported is shown in the kernel ring
buffer (dmesg) after loading the orinoco driver.
Geoff
--
http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com
Linux user number 478378
Linux machine number 386687
Tec. Esteban Monge Marín
Tel: (506) 8379-3562
No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de
la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios
grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las
economías foráneas y nosotros nos
quedemos con solo negocios de pobre,
mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro
propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de
empleados del exterior
José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:54:54PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote: I don't understand how you can ask for help on how to use complicated tools just because you don't like the easier one Where did Geoff, the person you replied to, ask for help on this tools? In my experience, you'll need to force TKIP operation to prevent initial usage of CCMP, which is not currently supported. This sentence is exacly copied from the message you replied to but is it not cited. Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style. I am the network administrator, what type of security is better to works with Debian GNU/Linux? Could change it WPE, WPA Personal AES or another. Only WPA2 with CCMP can be considered secure. Anything else is more or less broken. Bastian -- Lots of people drink from the wrong bottle sometimes. -- Edith Keeler, The City on the Edge of Forever, stardate unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
2009/2/9 Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com: Hello I try connect to WiFi network in my work. Have WPA Personal Security with TKIP encryption. I try use wpa_supplicant, wpagui, network manager and wifi radar but I cant connect. My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. I dont like network manager because I use Enlightenment, I like more wifi-radar, but: How configure wpa personal security with tkip in wifi radar? How configure my network card in /etc/network/interfaces? How configure wpa supplicant? Sorry for my bad english, and thanks. I was having a hard time connecting my iBook G3 with an AirPort Card running lenny using wpa at home. With knetwork-manager the processes always hang with no results and the same for wifi radar. Then I found this tip http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045 I don't know why but It just works for me (now my iBook is at a repair shop with a dead black screen). If you connect to many wireless networks it would be very annoying because you would have to do a lot of /etc/network/interfaces editing. Cheers -- Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
I update the kernel to 2.6.28-rc1
I configured the wpa_supplicant.conf:
# WPA-PSK/TKIP
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=2
fast_reauth=1
network={
ssid=linksys
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=laclave
}
My /etc/network/interfaces:
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
I try the next command: ifup eth1 and out:
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3
Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
Listening on LPF/eth1/00:08:54:1c:72:d9
Sending on LPF/eth1/00:08:54:1c:72:d9
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
No DHCPOFFERS received.
I try also: wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext and
out:
Trying to associate with SSID 'linksys'
Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
What is wrong?
2009/2/10 Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com
2009/2/9 Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com:
Hello
I try connect to WiFi network in my work. Have WPA Personal Security with
TKIP encryption.
I try use wpa_supplicant, wpagui, network manager and wifi radar but I
cant
connect.
My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. I dont like network
manager because I use Enlightenment, I like more wifi-radar, but:
How configure wpa personal security with tkip in wifi radar?
How configure my network card in /etc/network/interfaces?
How configure wpa supplicant?
Sorry for my bad english, and thanks.
I was having a hard time connecting my iBook G3 with an AirPort Card
running lenny using wpa at home. With knetwork-manager the processes
always hang with no results and the same for wifi radar.
Then I found this tip
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
I don't know why but It just works for me (now my iBook is at a repair
shop with a dead black screen). If you connect to many wireless
networks it would be very annoying because you would have to do a lot
of /etc/network/interfaces editing.
Cheers
--
Gunther Furtado
Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil
gunfurt...@gmail.com
--
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Linux user number 478378
Linux machine number 386687
Tec. Esteban Monge Marín
Tel: (506) 8379-3562
No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de
la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios
grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las
economías foráneas y nosotros nos
quedemos con solo negocios de pobre,
mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro
propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de
empleados del exterior
José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
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Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi Esteban, On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:46:32PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote: I update the kernel to 2.6.28-rc1 You would be better off using a released (ie. non-rc) 2.6.28 kernel, which can be acquired through a Debian kernel snapshot package for your system. This is described in the orinoco Debian Wiki page previously mentioned to you. I configured the wpa_supplicant.conf: [snip] ctrl_interface_group=0 [..] ap_scan=2 Why are you specifying these options? The version of wpa_supplicant in Lenny (0.6.4) does not require ap_scan=2, this is only necessary for wpa_supplicant versions = 0.5.7 with the orinoco driver. Also, ctrl_interface_group is deprecated. These configuration options should be removed unless absolutely required. Please try using a 2.6.28 kernel image from kernel-archive.buildserver.net and ensure you have acquired and installed the necessary Agere station firmware (agere_sta_fw.bin). Refer to the orinoco page on the Debian Wiki for instructions. At the very least, verify WPA-PSK supported is shown in the kernel ring buffer (dmesg) after loading the orinoco driver. Geoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hello I try connect to WiFi network in my work. Have WPA Personal Security with TKIP encryption. I try use wpa_supplicant, wpagui, network manager and wifi radar but I cant connect. My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. I dont like network manager because I use Enlightenment, I like more wifi-radar, but: How configure wpa personal security with tkip in wifi radar? How configure my network card in /etc/network/interfaces? How configure wpa supplicant? Sorry for my bad english, and thanks. -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
A Monday 9 February 2009 19:51:29, Esteban Monge escreveu: I try use wpa_supplicant, wpagui, network manager and wifi radar but I cant connect. My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. I dont like network manager because I use Enlightenment, I like more wifi-radar, but: network manager did everything for me on an iMac G3 400MHz... I just had to click, type WPA password, and it works. I don't understand how you can ask for help on how to use complicated tools just because you don't like the easier one -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
Hi Esteban, On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:51:29PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote: I try connect to WiFi network in my work. Have WPA Personal Security with TKIP encryption. [snip] My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. The original Apple AirPort Card uses a Hermes chipset, which is supported by the orinoco driver provided in mainline kernels. WPA support was introduced into this driver at kernel 2.6.28-rc1. As your Debian Lenny system has 2.6.26, you're required to install a later kernel version. Firmware (9.42 or later) is also required to be downloaded to the card to enable WPA operation. Driver and firmware installation procedures for Lenny are available from the Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco An example /etc/network/interfaces is shown, for use by wpa_supplicant. In my experience, you'll need to force TKIP operation to prevent initial usage of CCMP, which is not currently supported. Geoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wifi configuration Debian Lenny Ibook G3
I don't understand how you can ask for help on how to use complicated tools just because you don't like the easier one I believe that network management is only integrated to Gnome and XFCE and knetwork management must be installed for use in KDE, I think it is used as an applet for the desktop, while the use E16 is more limited. That would be GNU / Linux if we are left with only a single way of doing things, the variety is success. I am also very curious and I like seeing things under the table! ;-) In my experience, you'll need to force TKIP operation to prevent initial usage of CCMP, which is not currently supported. I am the network administrator, what type of security is better to works with Debian GNU/Linux? Could change it WPE, WPA Personal AES or another. Thanks for your answers, sorry for my bad english, I cant find active listings in Spanish for Debian PowerPC. In my blog I try to translate and documenting all about this port and my experience. Thanks. =) 2009/2/9 Geoff Simmons gsimm...@gsimmons.org Hi Esteban, On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:51:29PM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote: I try connect to WiFi network in my work. Have WPA Personal Security with TKIP encryption. [snip] My machine is a Ibook G3 800MHz with Airport Card. The original Apple AirPort Card uses a Hermes chipset, which is supported by the orinoco driver provided in mainline kernels. WPA support was introduced into this driver at kernel 2.6.28-rc1. As your Debian Lenny system has 2.6.26, you're required to install a later kernel version. Firmware (9.42 or later) is also required to be downloaded to the card to enable WPA operation. Driver and firmware installation procedures for Lenny are available from the Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco An example /etc/network/interfaces is shown, for use by wpa_supplicant. In my experience, you'll need to force TKIP operation to prevent initial usage of CCMP, which is not currently supported. Geoff -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior José Figueres Ferrer, 1952.
Debian on ibook
I have a four(ish) year old ibook sitting on my desk. It was doing nothing so I though 'let's give debian a whirl'. I have it to a terminal prompt, can ssh out and things such as that, but I am having a few difficulties, which I would appreciate some help with: Am a linux/debian newbug, so please don't assume anything! Order of criticality: 2, 1, 4, 3. 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. My backup plan is to move to OSX, I was on OS9, but I'd really like to get debian going as a learning tool. Help gratefully received. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
Hi Mark, I'd suggest you get a Ubuntu Breezy/ppc install disc (or it's live version if you just want to test it) from ubuntu.com and install that. Ubuntu is more or less Debian preconfigured for desktop usage. That should solve most, if not all, your issues. Best regards, Maxi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:40:20 +0100, Murk wrote: 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? In X, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick. 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. Again, badly configure X server. You should try to understand which hardware lies under the white plastic :) Try with lspci -v and if you have no clue on interpreting it post it in the list. 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. For sound, install alsa-related packages and then issue alsaconf. Power management is taken care of by pbbuttonsd. 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. For that you have to install sudo and configure it correctly. Otherwise, create a group called shutdown and add to this group the users you want to give shutdown privileges, then chown /sbin/shutdown to root:shutdown. Have fun! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
Jack Malmostoso wrote: On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:40:20 +0100, Murk wrote: 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? In X, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick. Okay, so that waits for later X first. What about the terminal keyboard mapping (or is that a response to how to make a keyboard map?) 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. Again, badly configure X server. You should try to understand which hardware lies under the white plastic :) Try with lspci -v and if you have no clue on interpreting it post it in the list. Okay (I have to work out how to get files from one machine to the other, this was by ssh and text copy!) :00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 Capabilities: available only to root :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48 Memory at 9400 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] I/O ports at 802400 [size=256] Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: available only to root :01:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 :01:17.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16 Memory at 8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] :01:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 27 Memory at 80081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: available only to root :01:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 28 Memory at 8008 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: available only to root :02:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal PCI Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 :02:0e.0 : Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea FireWire (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f :02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, slow devsel, latency 16, IRQ 41 Memory at f520 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] Expansion ROM at f510 [disabled] [size=1M] Now, how do I turn that into something gnome can use? 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. For sound, install alsa-related packages and then issue alsaconf. Power management is taken care of by pbbuttonsd. I'll get into that later. Thanks. I hope I can find and understand the docs there! 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. For that you have to install sudo and configure it correctly. Otherwise, create a group called shutdown and add to this group the users you want to give shutdown privileges, then chown /sbin/shutdown to root:shutdown. I'll try that later too, thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems installing Debian on iBook G3 - The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy from disk failed
Hi all, I am trying to (re)install Debian Woody 3.0 R3 on an iBook G3 600 Mhz, but I get the following error messages: user.info dbootstrap [81]: installing kernel and modules from /instmnt/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current user.info dbootstrap [81]: segmentation fault user.info dbootstrap [81]: loop: can't get info on device /dev/loop0: no such device or address user.err dbootstrap [81]: extracting rescue floppy from non_floppy device /instmnt/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current failed with -1 user.err dbootstrap [81]: The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy from disk failed. I have tried also to install from an older Woody 3.0 R2 media, but exactly the same error occurs. The most curious thing about that, is that I have already succesfully installed Debian ppc in an early time from the same Woody 3.0 R2 media. I have already searched for similar errors in the mailing lists, but without succesfull. I founded [1] and other similar messages, but all refering to different installation methods. Any hints are welcome! Thanks in advance, Rodrigo [1] - http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/01/msg00582.html ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: problems installing Debian on iBook G3 - The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy from disk failed
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:55:34 + (GMT) Rodrigo Weymar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW Hi all, RW RW I am trying to (re)install Debian Woody 3.0 R3 on an RW iBook G3 600 Mhz, but I get the following error RW messages: RW RW user.info dbootstrap [81]: installing kernel and RW modules from RW /instmnt/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current RW user.info dbootstrap [81]: segmentation fault RW user.info dbootstrap [81]: loop: can't get info on RW device /dev/loop0: no such device or address RW user.err dbootstrap [81]: extracting rescue floppy RW from non_floppy device RW /instmnt/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current failed RW with -1 RW user.err dbootstrap [81]: The attempt to extract the RW Rescue Floppy from disk failed. RW RW I have tried also to install from an older Woody 3.0 RW R2 media, but exactly the same error occurs. The most RW curious thing about that, is that I have already RW succesfully installed Debian ppc in an early time from RW the same Woody 3.0 R2 media. RW RW I have already searched for similar errors in the RW mailing lists, but without succesfull. I founded [1] RW and other similar messages, but all refering to RW different installation methods. RW RW Any hints are welcome! RW RW Thanks in advance, RW Rodrigo The fact that you are getting a segmentation fault on two different installation media sets suggests bad memory. Unfortunately I don't think there's a bootable memory tester for powerpc. James -- ++---+-+ | James Tappin | School of Physics Astronomy | O__| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | ++-+
Re: problems installing Debian on iBook G3 - The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy from disk failed
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, James Tappin wrote: The fact that you are getting a segmentation fault on two different installation media sets suggests bad memory. Unfortunately I don't think there's a bootable memory tester for powerpc. He might see if there's a hardware diagnostics disc for his iBook or find one that will boot on system. Apple started shipping them but on what systems when I don't know (at least with the G4's but I'm thinking with G3's too). Sean... -- The punk rock will get you if the government don't get you first. --Old 97's _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ KG4NRC http://www.rimboy.com Your source for the crap you know you need.
Re: problems installing Debian on iBook G3 - The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy from disk failed
The fact that you are getting a segmentation fault on two different installation media sets suggests bad memory. Unfortunately I don't think there's a bootable memory tester for powerpc. Actually, there is one in the apple utilities CD provided with the machine. At least with my G3 800 -- Cedric Pradalier
kernel panic with previously working MOL OSX (Debian Sarge, iBook G4)
I've also tried this on the MOL list, but for good measure (with apologies in advance if it is too far off-list): My MaconLinux installation was working quite happily until today, when it started generating (Darwin) kernel panics on boot. Several things have been updated on both the Debian and OSX sides since the last successful MOL boot, so I am not quite sure what has triggered the problem. The setup is an iBook G4 1Mhz, running Debian PPC tracking unstable, with Mac OSX 10.3 and MOL 0.9.70-8 from the Debian packages, along with the 0.9.70-1 mol-macosx drivers. On startmol -X I get the boot screen swiftly followed by a Darwin kernel panic: panic(cpu 0): Unable to find a driver for this platform: AAPL,MOL. Latest stack backtraceetc etc Reinstalling the Debian packages has no effect, can I/should I reinstall the OSX kexts. If so, how? Any inspiration welcome... DesJ
Debian on iBook-G4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I'm having some problems with Debian on an iBook G4. I've installed SID, but sound is not working. Kernel doesn't find any sound hardware. ALSA does not find any, as well. Now I've got another problem, avery time sistem boots the privileges of /dev/null are changed to 644, and a lot of programs can't start properly. I can't found which process/daemon makes this change. After sistem boots, I change again privileges to 666, but every now and then it is changed again to 644 while I'm working. And, again, I have not found why. I think it's KDE because with GNome it seems it doesn't happen, and while in KDE sistem almost hungs. My sistem: iBook G4, 800MHz, 256MB RAM, kernel 2.6.5 (standard local compiled, not Debian stock kernel), gcc 3.4, kde 3.3 Anybody knows anything about this? Thanks in advance, - -- José Manuel Pérez Fuente Punto Neutro EuskoNIX - Red Académica I2BASK (UPV/EHU) Parque Tecnológico de San Sebastián Pº Mikeletegi, 69 - Torre Arbide Norte 20009 Donostia - San Sebastián Tel.: +34 943 018 705 Fax.: +34 943 015 590 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.euskonix.org - --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBUqkyRRyB6LZLkhsRAkIdAKDXiPjDLRWpTQJsxY1R68rN109soQCeJDho 3bs+WLd9fDdeOogJk9C2WOw= =hQtb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4 | hardware informations
Hello It could be interesting to include a preliminary section about the hardware components of this machine or at least a link to an Apple page with that information. I started a such section, let me know if things are missing http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto.html thanks seb _ Envie de discuter en live avec vos amis ? Télécharger MSN Messenger http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/m la 1ère messagerie instantanée de France
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
It seems many people build their kernels in /usr/src, [...] .. Linus has also pointed out several times that people should *not* compile kernels in /usr/src/linux, and instead do it in their home directory as a regular user, not root. The only time you should become root is when you install the kernel. Well, /usr/src doesn't mean you have to be root... just `chgrp -R users /usr/src chmod -R g+w /usr/src` (or equivalent). Don't use such a broad group like 'users' if you don't trust them ;) -- Colin
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 08:55, Colin Leroy wrote: It seems many people build their kernels in /usr/src, [...] .. Linus has also pointed out several times that people should *not* compile kernels in /usr/src/linux, and instead do it in their home directory as a regular user, not root. The only time you should become root is when you install the kernel. Well, /usr/src doesn't mean you have to be root... just `chgrp -R users /usr/src chmod -R g+w /usr/src` (or equivalent). Don't use such a broad group like 'users' if you don't trust them ;) 1:0 for you ... :) Seriously: Torvalds: ___ I would suggest that people who compile new kernels should: - NOT do so in /usr/src. Leave whatever kernel (probably only the header files) that the distribution came with there, but don't touch it. ___ More on: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Kernel/usr-src-linux-symlink.html Additionally: http://linuxgazette.net/issue62/tag/4.html Best Regards Wolfgang -- Colin -- Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
El Lunes, 16 de Febrero de 2004 23:06, Florian Reitmeir escribi:
but you could mention that,
the new (beta) Debian Installer worked (for me) out of the Box.
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
Worked for me too.
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Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
the new (beta) Debian Installer worked (for me) out of the Box. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I think I tried it, but when I would select execute a shell, it would go on with partitioning, not really caring about what I wanted, so I gave up and whined in #debianppc :D I'll mention it though, thanks seb _ Envie de discuter en live avec vos amis ? Télécharger MSN Messenger http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/m la 1ère messagerie instantanée de France
Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
Hi, This is just to let you know that I've been working on a howto about using an iBookG4 under Debian, I intend to add the missing parts (keyboard and others), and publish it within a few days, let me know if you want to contribute or change things, Please don't pay attention to the typo, they'll be corrected later http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto.html Thanks seb _ Envie de discuter en live avec vos amis ? Télécharger MSN Messenger http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/m la 1ère messagerie instantanée de France
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
Thermal management works if compiled as a module. -- Sylvain Joyeux
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
Just forget the last one, I should think twice before sending my emails. -- Sylvain Joyeux
Re: Writing a HOWTO about debian on iBook G4
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Sbastien FRANOIS wrote: This is just to let you know that I've been working on a howto about using an iBookG4 under Debian, I intend to add the missing parts (keyboard and others), and publish it within a few days, let me know if you want to contribute or change things, Please don't pay attention to the typo, they'll be corrected later http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto.html looks very good, but you could mention that, the new (beta) Debian Installer worked (for me) out of the Box. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- mfG Florian Reitmeir
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
Answering myself: http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/ Perhaps it works! Dowloading now. Sad news, modules are missing! :-/ Am I doing something wrong? I am following these steps: http://hal9000.eui.upm.es/halwiki/iBook_20G4?action=show Thanks and best regards, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
You can try the Modo experto solution in the address you have cited or, maybe, build your own debian-installer CD-image (net access is needed in both cases). Instructions on building debian-installer CD image (mini-ISO) for powerpc can be found here: http://www.soziologie.ch/users/steinlin/d-i/#bootcd I'm writing as well a document about Debian installation on PowerBook G4 alu (work in progress and at the moment only in spanish). I've followed the last method to install it. (Document devided in four sections): http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/15/18211/197 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/16/1579/2649 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/18/14941/103 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/25/14245/330 Suerte, y al toro :) On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 08:23:00PM +0100, J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Answering myself: http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/ Perhaps it works! Dowloading now. Sad news, modules are missing! :-/ Am I doing something wrong? I am following these steps: http://hal9000.eui.upm.es/halwiki/iBook_20G4?action=show Thanks and best regards, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
Luis Sanjuan wrote: You can try the Modo experto solution in the address you have cited or, maybe, build your own debian-installer CD-image (net access is needed in both cases). Instructions on building debian-installer CD image (mini-ISO) for powerpc can be found here: http://www.soziologie.ch/users/steinlin/d-i/#bootcd I'm writing as well a document about Debian installation on PowerBook G4 alu this might help you than: http://www.gnome-de.org/~herzi/pbook-g4-2003.html by Sven Herzberg (work in progress and at the moment only in spanish). I've followed the last method to install it. (Document devided in four sections): http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/15/18211/197 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/16/1579/2649 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/18/14941/103 http://libertonia.escomposlinux.org/story/2003/12/25/14245/330 Suerte, y al toro :) On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 08:23:00PM +0100, J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Answering myself: http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/ Perhaps it works! Dowloading now. Sad news, modules are missing! :-/ Am I doing something wrong? I am following these steps: http://hal9000.eui.upm.es/halwiki/iBook_20G4?action=show Thanks and best regards, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 the mental interface of J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente told: Where can I download Sarge CD installer? Gluck site seems to be down. Just follow http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.d/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php step by step ;-) Nice, but.. where is Sarge CD installer? I would like having it to install Debian on the iBook. Any mirror working? Thanks, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 the mental interface of J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente told: Where can I download Sarge CD installer? Gluck site seems to be down. Just follow http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.d/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php step by step ;-) Nice, but.. where is Sarge CD installer? I would like having it to install Debian on the iBook. Any mirror working? Answering myself: http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/ Perhaps it works! Dowloading now. = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 the mental interface of J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente told: Hello, I have a 12 iBook G4, and I would like using Debian/Gnome2.4 on it, as I do in my PC. I've heard that Xserver doesn't work in this machine yet, is that true? What is the real status of Debian/Sid for G4 iBook? Is there any tool like Partition Magic for Win32 for Mac OS X to make partititions without having to reinstall everything? Thanks and best regards, Xserver is running for sure ;-) The 3-D accelaration depend on your graphic adapter. You'll find almost everythinh you are using fom the i386 port. For Installation checkout http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php HTH Elimar -- Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself. -Friedrich Nietzsche pgpNg8Chl8Xid.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian on iBook G4 status
Hello, I have a 12 iBook G4, and I would like using Debian/Gnome2.4 on it, as I do in my PC. I've heard that Xserver doesn't work in this machine yet, is that true? What is the real status of Debian/Sid for G4 iBook? Is there any tool like Partition Magic for Win32 for Mac OS X to make partititions without having to reinstall everything? Thanks and best regards, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 the mental interface of J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente told: Hello again, Xserver is running for sure ;-) The 3-D accelaration depend on your graphic adapter. It is using ATI Mobility Radeon 9200: http://www.apple.com/ibook/specs.html You'll find almost everythinh you are using fom the i386 port. Nice, that's what I am looking for. For Installation checkout http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php Those seem to be outdated, even when PowerBook G4 and new iBook G4 seem to be very similar. After reading it, it seems I have to make new partitions, and installing everything again :( Of course, you have to reinstall MacOS again. While this installation prozess you can make partitions for MacOS, linux und i.e NetBSD. Ciao Elimar -- .~. /V\ L I N U X /( )\ Phear the Penguin ^^-^^ pgpezHoGvno3d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
Hello again, Xserver is running for sure ;-) The 3-D accelaration depend on your graphic adapter. It is using ATI Mobility Radeon 9200: http://www.apple.com/ibook/specs.html You'll find almost everythinh you are using fom the i386 port. Nice, that's what I am looking for. For Installation checkout http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php Those seem to be outdated, even when PowerBook G4 and new iBook G4 seem to be very similar. After reading it, it seems I have to make new partitions, and installing everything again :( = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
Of course, you have to reinstall MacOS again. While this installation prozess you can make partitions for MacOS, linux und i.e NetBSD. Where can I download Sarge CD installer? Gluck site seems to be down. Thanks and best regards, = J.Manrique López de la Fuente(o- / Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\-/ http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique V_/_
Re: Debian on iBook G4 status
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 the mental interface of J.Manrique Lopez de la Fuente told: Of course, you have to reinstall MacOS again. While this installation prozess you can make partitions for MacOS, linux und i.e NetBSD. Where can I download Sarge CD installer? Gluck site seems to be down. Just follow http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.d/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php step by step ;-) HANN Elimar -- Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to make it complex and wonderful ;-) pgp4YOwvQtalE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On 01 Dec 2003 at 21h12, Diana Galletly wrote: Hi, Only problems that I still have involve gnome and friends, and not being able to get from X to a VT. But that is no doubt an artefact of his having a French keyboard and my having a UK one. I can't do it either. -- Colin
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 08:31, Colin Leroy wrote: On 01 Dec 2003 at 21h12, Diana Galletly wrote: Only problems that I still have involve gnome and friends, and not being able to get from X to a VT. But that is no doubt an artefact of his having a French keyboard and my having a UK one. I can't do it either. Does chvt work? -- Earthling Michel Dnzer | Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer Software libre enthusiast| http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: Does chvt work? It certainly does for me :-) Thanks. Diana.
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 12:25, Diana Galletly wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dnzer wrote: Does chvt work? It certainly does for me :-) Thanks. Okay, then either you're not using the right key combo or you have a keyboard configuration problem. -- Earthling Michel Dnzer | Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer Software libre enthusiast| http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, fabrizio messina wrote: some people just installed debian gnu linux on ibook g4? Yes :-) My Xserver even works now thanks to Colin Leroy giving me his XF86Config with that all-important modeline in it. Only problems that I still have involve gnome and friends, and not being able to get from X to a VT. But that is no doubt an artefact of his having a French keyboard and my having a UK one. I'll try to write an exact summary of everything I did soon (but am ill at the moment so my brain is rather on vacation). the question is: do you think this machine will work faster with linux? :-) Faster, hrmmm, difficult question. Depends what you mean by faster I rather suspect. I'm using Debian a) because I'm a die-hard Debianite and b) because, much as people tried to persuade me otherwise, OS X irritated the hell out of me within hours. I've tried to use it actually to do stuff over the past few days (frex LaTeX stuff) and it _really_ irritated me. Running twm with a few vagaries on Debian is an order of magnitude improvement IM(A)O. Things like gnome/kde don't exactly run with great speed; but neither does OS X when one has to grobble around through system prefs trying to switch from static IP (work) to DHCP (home). As I said, it depends what you're wanting to do with your machine! Diana.
debian on ibook g4??
hi all, some people just installed debian gnu linux on ibook g4? i purchased this machine two days ago and i would like to install linux ;-) the question is: do you think this machine will work faster with linux? :-) I have not so much time time to install linux, and i would like to spend my time in the right way ;-) thanks all, greetings from Italy fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on ibook g4??
Il dom, 2003-11-30 alle 12:23, fabrizio messina ha scritto: hi all, some people just installed debian gnu linux on ibook g4? Yes, some of them are completely supported, other are less supported. What model do you have? the question is: do you think this machine will work faster with linux? :-) I have not so much time time to install linux, and i would like to spend my time in the right way ;-) I think it isn't a matter of speed. It is a matter of freedom and usability. It is up to you to select the OS you like. Bye, Giuseppe
Re: debian on ibook g4??
There have been sucessfull install reports, check the mailing list archive for them. Faster than what ? i think that Jvm on Linux is faster than Jvm on Panther, isn't it? moreover, i think that graphic interface of Panther is slow.. Friendly, Sven Luther fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on ibook g4??
El domingo, 30 de noviembre de 2003, a las 13:11, Giuseppe Sacco escribió: I think it isn't a matter of speed. It is a matter of freedom and usability. It is up to you to select the OS you like. Yes, but it is also a matter of speed. Mac OS X almost renders my Yosemite G3 unusable... Regards, Ismael -- `Tout fourmille de commentaries; d'autheurs il en est grande cherté.' signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian on ibook g4??
Hi Fabrizio on my ibook g4 same configuration as yours linux is faster then MacOSX. But I think it depend on your window-manager. * fabrizio messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-30 12:23:03 +0100]: I have not so much time time to install linux, and i would like to spend my time in the right way ;-) www.difficulties.de is my documentation of the installation. Matze pgpsoylMgGqq9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian on ibook g4??
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:40:00 +0100 fabrizio messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it isn't a matter of speed. It is a matter of freedom and usability. It is up to you to select the OS you like. agreed! :-) Mac Os is a unix-like system based on darwin kernel (similar to BSD..) ok..but i would like to work with large variety of opensource software that is available for Linux (freedom..yes) , and... i think that linux is more efficient to develop java application: Sun directly release Jvm for Linux, but not for Mac Os...and so..freedom and usability...but also perfomance..i think it Not at all. A friend made a java pacman and when the game is built, 3 loops and some calculations, it's truely slow on linux but it's ok on macosX and Windows :-( It's _exactly_ the same JVM on MacOSX and on linux: IBM j2sdk1.4. I can give more informations about that later this week if you want. Best regards, -- .''`. Arnaud Vandyck : :' : http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/ `. `' `- pgpADLqlxXbyT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian on iBook issues
Mouse: Is there a way to make the really stupid one-button mouse do a right click, say, as holding the Ctrl key and clicking? What do I need to do to have both the built-in mouse working and an external mouse through the USB? MACOSX boot: I don't know what's wrong with my setup, but I went by various instructions and installed OSX and then Debian on 2 separate partitions. Whereas Debian is on hd:4, OSX should be on hd:6. But I have gone through pretty much all options in the yaboot.conf file in setting the parameter macosx=/dev/hdx without ever being able to boot into my OSX installation. What can I do? Curtis
Re: Debian on iBook issues
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Curtis Vaughan wrote: Mouse: Is there a way to make the really stupid one-button mouse do a right click, say, as holding the Ctrl key and clicking? somebody, some times ago post a patch to do this. browse the archives it will be easy to find What do I need to do to have both the built-in mouse working and an external mouse through the USB? Using /dev/input/mice allows you to use the tracpad AND and external mouse, as I'm currently doing MACOSX boot: I don't know what's wrong with my setup, but I went by various instructions and installed OSX and then Debian on 2 separate partitions. Whereas Debian is on hd:4, OSX should be on hd:6. But I have gone through pretty much all options in the yaboot.conf file in setting the parameter macosx=/dev/hdx without ever being able to boot into my OSX installation. check your partitions again, and correct yaboot. don't forget to run ybin, in order to made the modification used. what's the output of sudo mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda ? Eric -- CF: à l'ECN, pour minimum 80% des gens linux=plantage. SR: Vos machines, elles ont été installées par des administrateurs NT ou quoi ? -+- Serge in Guide du Linuxien pervers - Bien configurer ses admins
Re: Debian on iBook issues
OoO En ce début d'après-midi nuageux du mercredi 20 novembre 2002, vers 14:58, Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: What do I need to do to have both the built-in mouse working and an external mouse through the USB? You have to use /dev/input/mice, or gpm, or two entries in the XF86Config. -- Make sure all variables are initialised before use. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan Plaugher)
Additional Debian on iBook issues
Delete Is there a way to enable the Delete key to actually act like the Delete key as far as deleting mail in Mozilla Mail is concerned? Or is there another key that will do this? OpenOffice I assume that if I want to install openoffice I should use the MAC version. Also is there an address that can be used in sources.list for this? MPlayer Can Mplayer be installed on an iBook under Debian? If so, what is the link for that?
Re: Debian on iBook startx problem
Well, I installed wmaker and then went through your xserver installation instructions all over again, but it's still not working. HOWEVER! Here's a work around I figured out, but I do wish to get this working right. What I do is I issue the command startx -lf /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager Then when x starts up with its grey screen there is an xterm console as well. In the xterm console I then enter the command kde2 and voila! I have KDE2. Curtis Mij wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:42:35 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i followed your instructions, but nonetheless, I get a grey screen with the mouse. Nothing else. this means that you have everything working well. The page imply you have some piece of windowmanager installed before trying to get X woking: apt-get install wmaker and then redo everything you did so far and proceed with what you find on the page. When you get this working, I suggest you to try something like gnome, which I guess you'd like better. bye Curtis Mij wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:50:23 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please follow step bye step the instructions in the page i pointed you to. Shut down you display manager, if you use one, and try starting the xserver manually; turning back to the console, you can see immediately what's wrong. It's difficult helping you if you don't give us some more detail. If X started manually gets well, probably your problem is the windowmanager (as I'm convinced it to be). bye Believe it or not, there are no .xsession or .xinit files in my home directory. Curtis Mij wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:16:17 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I dowloaded Mij's XF86Config-4 files and put it in /etc/X11and low and behold I got an x session. However, i get just the log on screen. If I log on, it just returns to the log on screen. What's up now? you do have a winmanager installed, don't you? in this case, try removing ~/.xsession and ~/.xinit files. bye Curtis Mij wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:29:06 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/ Basically, I followed the instructions for installing Debian on an iBook at the site http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium, but after doing the part concerning X, I run startx and get an errors stating among other things that the modules pex5 and xie don't exist. Anyone have any advise on this? Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on iBook issues
Hello, Mouse: Is there a way to make the really stupid one-button mouse do a right click, say, as holding the Ctrl key and clicking? somebody, some times ago post a patch to do this. browse the archives it will be easy to find I'm sorry, but I'm also interested by that and I can't find it in the archives... Does anybody remember when it was or even still have the message? Thank you raph - Unix IS user-friendly. It just chooses its friends carefully clef publique - öffentlicher Schlüssel - public key: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~proust/raph-pub-key.txt pgphT60VQtUvj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Additional Debian on iBook issues
There appear to be massive dependency issues with this. Is it adviseable to meet its dependencies (i.e., install all the apps that I assume are for sarge)? Curtis Jason E. Stewart wrote: Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OpenOffice I assume that if I want to install openoffice I should use the MAC version. Also is there an address that can be used in sources.list for this? This is what I use: # OpenOffice for PPC deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice unstable main contrib jas.
Re: Additional Debian on iBook issues
i just got it from here: http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/mirrors/ppclinks.html untarred it and ran the install script you get, as root. then i installed it for each user by running /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.0.1/setup as that user. no problem! regards matthew On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:25:29 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There appear to be massive dependency issues with this. Is it adviseable to meet its dependencies (i.e., install all the apps that I assume are for sarge)? Curtis Jason E. Stewart wrote: Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OpenOffice I assume that if I want to install openoffice I should use the MAC version. Also is there an address that can be used in sources.list for this? This is what I use: # OpenOffice for PPC deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice unstable main contrib jas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian on iBook startx problem
Basically, I followed the instructions for installing Debian on an iBook at the site http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium, but after doing the part concerning X, I run startx and get an errors stating among other things that the modules pex5 and xie don't exist. Anyone have any advise on this? Curtis
Re: Debian on iBook startx problem
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:29:06 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/ Basically, I followed the instructions for installing Debian on an iBook at the site http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium, but after doing the part concerning X, I run startx and get an errors stating among other things that the modules pex5 and xie don't exist. Anyone have any advise on this? Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mij -o- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o- http://mij.oltrelinux.com
Re: Debian on iBook startx problem
Ok, I dowloaded Mij's XF86Config-4 files and put it in /etc/X11and low and behold I got an x session. However, i get just the log on screen. If I log on, it just returns to the log on screen. What's up now? Curtis Mij wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:29:06 -0800 Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/ Basically, I followed the instructions for installing Debian on an iBook at the site http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium, but after doing the part concerning X, I run startx and get an errors stating among other things that the modules pex5 and xie don't exist. Anyone have any advise on this? Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
