On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 08:54:19AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daemon Bernstein writes:
> > Also, there are NO Nvidia drivers for my old video card on those newer
> > distributions, and older drivers will not install.
>
> Just as a side note, we're not very happy about this situation either,
On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 09:37:27AM -0500, Shayan Akbar wrote:
> Hello Debian folks,
>
> As someone who depends on the Debian project a lot in my daily life, I
> cannot seem to let this idea go... Can the linux project fall?
>
> How does the project maintain itself against the man's intrinsic
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 04:14:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> The fact is, Norbert's DD status has been removed, he's no longer a Debian
> Developer, he no longer has a @debian.org email address, he no longer has
> voting rights within the project, etc. It's not a time-limited removal
>
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 03:37:27PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> You're not the first one with the same reaction, so here's why.
>
> Norbert publicly lies, writting he's not packaging in Debian "thanks to the
> da-manager", why should we care? Quite the opposite, isn't it normal to
> publicly
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:38:02AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > Can we delete him from planet?
>
> Any DD can do that... oh wait that includes me... done!
I went bold and reverted this removal; the detailed reason why and the
Planet rules I believe Jonathan has breached are in the commit
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 08:38:02AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > Can we delete him from planet?
>
> Any DD can do that... oh wait that includes me... done!
... and if there was any doubt I could possibly vote you above NOTA, here it
goes away. Continuing harassment of Norbert is not
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 01:23:11PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Debian's diversity statement commits us to be welcoming to all people
> regardless of who they *are*.
>
> It does *not* commit us to welcome all people into our community regardless
> of the *idealogies they express*.
>
> Nazis
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 05:21:47PM -0400, Kurt Meyer wrote:
> I would like to suggest the start of two new mailing lists.
>
> The first mailing list would list new packages (not upgrades) added to
> Debian Unstable. I realize that there is the New Packages in "Sid" page,
> but a mailing list
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:59:47PM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote:
> On 2020-08-13 21:03, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I don't think someone could possibly be prosecuted for using a fake passport
> > to obtain a gpg signature.
> But even if it weren't a crime: Once the person
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> I think the point about fake idenity documents is, it being a criminal
> activity and make one liable for prosecution. So it is not just about
> immediate cost of getting a fake id, but the is high risk if you are caught.
> Not all
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 02:59:59AM +0200, Ángel wrote:
> as there would be an external motivation to do that which is financing
> such activity. Please note that by 'company' I am not meaning just
> business entities, but also three letter agencies, nation states,
> malicious hacker groups,
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 01:32:38PM +0100, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> On 20.12.19 05:35, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, Martina Ferrari wrote:
> >> A judge in the UK had something to say in respect of these attitudes
> >> yesterday:
> >
> > Hear hear who speaks ... we don't mention
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:00:11AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 07:31:41AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > Martina,
> >
> > please tone down you expression, three times "asshole" sprinkled with
> > some "fuck off" is far above any acceptable limit here.
> > Not to
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Sebastian wrote:
> Witam,mam pytanie, kiedy bedzei dostępny debian zRolling release
> ?dziekuje :)
Hi, this is an English speaking list.
--
Za rolling release służy "testing" do którego pakiety wchodzą po kilku
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 09:34:48AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:04:47PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > I concur, especially as Debian also distributes shotwell.
>
> +1
And as someone who doesn't use shotwell, and has strong opinions against
many things done by
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:51:23PM -0300, Yao Wei wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:49:24AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > ##
> > I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for modification.
> > Thus, like any non-source form, it must be
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:18:28AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On July 24, 2019 12:34:13 AM UTC, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >By this logic, a pile of .c files with comments removed or preprocessed
> >with cpp would be allowed as well. The VCS is also a means to store
> >hu
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:23:42PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Since use of a public VCS isn't universal among free software projects,
> the implication is that one could take a non-free upstream tarball, dump
> it into git on salsa and magically make it free. I think this is a
> ridiculous
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 09:20:07AM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 09:01:34PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > (Or, heretic voice, maybe because it is easier to
> > throw people out when everything is standardized?)
>
> Norbert, it's not the first time in recent
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:14:38AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 00:49:24 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > ##
> > I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for modification.
> > Thus, like any non-source form, it must be
Hi!
In the light of the currently discussed GR proposal, I wonder if the
following license clause would be considered DFSG-free and GPL-compatible:
##
I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for modification.
Thus, like any non-source form, it must be accompanied
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 07:31:11PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> 1- Mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser, meaning we do mandate using Git for
> packaging.
Good. Especially if we can then drop quilt.
> 2- Mandating using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout for Git, as this
> seems to be the most
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 06:32:10PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> It seems to me that if one is open to diversity of opinion, then there's
> no need for someone to feel obligated to educate wrong thinkers. That's
> only necessary if there's only one true answer, so anyone with a different
>
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> People in the US are used to minority quotas in various places.
>
> In most European countries it would be considered unacceptable racism
> if skin color would play any role in university admission.
[...]
> Children in the US grow up
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 06:06:31PM +0100, Ingo von Laer wrote:
> Dear Sirs and Ladies,
> with the implementation of the NetworkManager the little Problems began.
> WFT, "Wired Connection 1" tree blanks an config-file in the etc.
> The biggest Problem are the fancy new names for the Ethernet.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:03:50AM -0700, Gavin Howard wrote:
> I am the author of an implementation of POSIX bc with all GNU
> extensions (https://github.com/gavinhoward/bc).
> Would there be any interest in replacing the GNU bc with my bc in
> Debian? I would be willing to do the work to
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:56:02AM +, Pauline Bouchez wrote:
> Hello,
> I have been developer for 9 years in web development and I would like to
> know if it would be possible to receive stickers about Debian to promote
> it in my workplace ?
https://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 02:14:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Pocock writes:
>
> > I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening
> > to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes
> > to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 09:31:46PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening
> to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes
> to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree with their rulers.
> I would
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:28:56PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Chris Lamb:
>
> > Would there any strong objections to the Project aligning itself
> > against the new EU copyright review? For more background, here's a
> > recent Linux Journal article about this reform attempt:
> >
> >
> >
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:56:56AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > https://www.debian.org/intro/about.en.html#who describes "Debian is
> > produced
> > by almost a thousand active developers spread around the world who
> > volunteer
> > in their spare time." but how do we count this?
>
> We
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:41:07PM +0100, francoisduvalcork . wrote:
> I was wondering the reasons behind your choice not to make available crypto
> currency an efficient way to get financial support. They have been around
> for several years now.
> I'm sure you are aware of this and you might
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:17:10PM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> If the Secret Police has seized your computer, has physical access to
> your machine and the decryption passphrase for your system, I don't
> think there's any website that you visited that would be more
> incriminating than
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:33:41AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:14 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > That's only because it lives in mm/shmem.c, not under fs/. It does
> > > support xattrs.
> >
> > Have
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:07:59PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> I think you're probably already away of the factual portions of my
> claims below, but I'm making them for the benefit of the broader
> audience.
>
> At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
> material for -project.)
Thanks, crossposts are bad!
> Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
> stuff in main&q
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
> automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
>
> The obvious example is web browsers with extension repositories
> containing both free and
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:33:09PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Elise Wood writes ("Bitcoin donations"):
> > Have you considered adding an address for bitcoin donations? Would you?
>
> After reading _Attack of the 50-foot blockchain_ by David Gerard, my
> (previously merely rather sceptical)
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 03:53:23PM +0200, MICHAŁ wrote:
> Witam
> Mam pytanie która wersja debiana pasuje na intela? Chodzi mi o wersję 64
> bitową.
amd64.
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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:17:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:09:38AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > The Start is based on the GnuK and I think should be upgradable to do 4K
> > keys. The Pro uses a non-free smartcard internally for the RSA
> > operations. I believe
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:36:08AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Daniel Pocock:
>
> > There has been some discussion about the potential impact of the latest
> > copyright legislation[1] on sites/services that share source code or
> > facilitate collaborative development services.
>
> Do you
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:54:28AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 02/08/17 21:30, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:53:27PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >> If you have ever generated or imported a gpg secret key using gpg 1 or 2.0
> >> (ie, before S
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:53:27PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> If you have ever generated or imported a gpg secret key using gpg 1 or 2.0
> (ie, before Stretch), then used --delete-secret-key, please
> rm ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg
Obviously, this assumes you did run a gpg command after
Hi!
Continuing from IRC:
It would be nice if someone knowledgeable could educate the rest of us about
physical key dongles -- a number of DDs/DMs/contributors still keep their
secret keys on a regular disk, and could use a primer. Me included. I do
have a backup key with plenty of sigs that's
Hi guys!
Heads up:
If you have ever generated or imported a gpg secret key using gpg 1 or 2.0
(ie, before Stretch), then used --delete-secret-key, please
rm ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg
(and shred/trim/balance/etc -- it's a huge topic).
If you --delete-secret-key with gpg 2.1, it deletes the key only
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 07:01:36AM +0800, James Bromberger wrote:
> On 26/07/2017 6:20 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > https provides no protection against targetted attacks by government
> > agents.
> > The CA cartel model consists of 400+ CAs, many of them outright controll
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:56:41PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> > your repositories on "debian.org" (especially "http://security.debian.org/;
> > !!) are not!
>
> The files are cryptographically signed which guarantees
> they haven't been tampered with in transit (modulo replay
> attacks which are
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 11:07:19AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2017, Christian Seiler wrote:
> > Am 2017-06-06 22:19, schrieb Adam Borowski:
> > >Or
> > >that you can sanely run x86 without at least {intel,amd64}-microcode.
> >
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:52:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:23:30PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> > * Documentation is highly valued, frequently overlooked, and a
> >means for establishing inclusive and accessible communities.
>
> Debian gets this. It's
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:33:03AM +0200, Śpiewak Krzysztof wrote:
> witam
Hi! This is an English-speaking list, and it's aimed at development only.
For questions about using Debian, you'd want to ask at
debian-user-pol...@lists.debian.org.
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:45:06PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> For many of us, it goes without saying that we'd not take a margin
> off merchandise we create/sell for our project, mainly because of
> our idealism.
>
> However, at the end of the day, all things considered, if Didier or
>
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 12:50:19AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> perhaps we can just rename the role and tune it a bit in the constitution
> so that it stops being misleading towards the outside, and perhaps make
> more clear what the role entails towards the inside. Although naming it
> for what
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:55:57PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Quoting Adam Borowski (2016-12-06 09:36:08)
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 09:18:49AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > > What I currently find inconvenient about the LowThresholdNmu page is,
> > >
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 09:18:49AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> What I currently find inconvenient about the LowThresholdNmu page is, that it
> is external to the source package. So after having found a package I want to
> fix I have to manually look up on that wiki page whether the maintainer
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:32:40PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-12-02 12:43:52)
> > Otherwise it really will be chaos, with people uploading contra-reverts of
> > each others' reverts.
>
> Personally, I doubt that this would happen. In a world without maintainership,
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 11:20:53AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Debian has been using the slogan / tag line "The Universal Operating
> System" for as long as I can remember.
>
> It is a good choice and it represents the aims of many contributors, but
> is it the optimal choice today?
Make
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 01:47:41PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> > More and more frequently I'm encountering systems where third-party
> > repositories have been added into /etc/apt/sources.list or
> > /etc/apt/sources.list.d, usually put
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 02:31:34PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote:
> There are some problems why Debian is not soo widely used in the science
> analysis (yet): One is that due to our long freeze many important
> packages are already outdated when the stable release comes out.
Well, they're using
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