On Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:29:36 Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think more guidance for the teams involved would be helpful. The
> Debconf and Debian CoC statements are too difficult to amend. The DC
> and Debian teams should develop a process document which those
> responsible would use to guid
On September 3, 2014 10:23:14 AM EDT, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Piotr Ożarowski writes ("Re: Code of Conduct violations handling
>process"):
>> yeah, lets do censorship. I lived in a country with censorship¹, we
>> didn't have people swearing and nobody dared to say something which
>is
>> not political
On September 3, 2014 11:17:41 AM EDT, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>
>> [Scott Kitterman, 2014-09-03]
>>> We could have an on stage censor with a switch for the microphone.
>
>I am disappointed; the response c
On September 3, 2014 12:47:08 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>
>> [Manoj Srivastava, 2014-09-03]
>>> Is your position then that condes of conduct and enforcing
>>> harassment policies are a form of censorship? (I am congnizent that
>you
>
>>
On September 3, 2014 12:52:44 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>
>> As far as I can tell, he spoke the truth as he knows it. I have no
>> idea if he's right or wrong, but he was stating his perspective and
>we
>> o
On September 3, 2014 7:34:10 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 09:52:44AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>>> People associated with the FSF or those who feel i sympathy
>with
>>> them feel offended, I find it somew
On Thursday, September 04, 2014 09:57:27 Ean Schuessler wrote:
> - "Russ Allbery" wrote:
> > At least in the United States, people who use the term "political
> > correctness" in all seriousness as something they dislike and think is
> > bad are generally people with whom you would not want to
On Monday, October 06, 2014 23:26:25 Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 06/10/14 at 20:38 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > >> Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't s
On Friday, November 28, 2014 10:23:29 PM Christian Mueller wrote:
> Dear Debian Project,
>
> I really didn't want to add fire to the debate about using/not using
> systemd but recent developments made it difficult to remain impartial.
>
> Debian has always been about choice. You (Debian) have mai
On November 29, 2014 12:55:16 PM EST, Svante Signell wrote:
>Unfortunately it is mandatory, not only the default :(
>New installs: yes, upgrades: probably, we'll know December 4. Odds for
>a
>non-systemd upgrade are low :( Maybe join devuan instead?
There's been a number of blog posts recently th
On Monday, July 18, 2016 07:53:23 PM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 05:46:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > In any case, with the renewed opposition here I'm certainly not going
> > to push this issue unless there are others who agree with me and
> > disagree with the views of
On Monday, July 18, 2016 08:58:53 PM Ole Streicher wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > I do think the example of Ubuntu splitting ubuntu-devel into ubuntu-devel
> > and ubuntu-devel-discuss may be a relevant data point. As an active
> > participant in Ubuntu development
On Monday, December 05, 2016 10:02:02 PM Ian Jackson wrote:
> Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"):
> > Because I generally find it's generally the wrong tool for the job. If
> > I can come up with a good explanation for why somebody should take a
> > particula
On Monday, December 05, 2016 11:18:41 PM Ian Jackson wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"):
> > Nonsense. There's no risk for a non-maintainer to come to the TC.
>
> A non-maintainer who comes to the TC:
>
> *
On Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:21:23 AM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:29:13PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Can we come up with some way whereby the maintainership authority is
> > always shared, somehow ?
>
> The net result of this would be that anyone who maintains p
On December 11, 2016 8:25:05 PM EST, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Formal declaration of weak package ownership
>in source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers)"):
>> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:42:57PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> > > It's a lot simpler to ke
On December 11, 2016 8:50:19 PM EST, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Scott Kitterman writes ("Re: Formal declaration of weak package
>ownership in source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose
>maintainers)"):
>> These changes will require, at the very least, policy chang
On Monday, December 12, 2016 09:23:35 AM Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 12 décembre 2016 01:38 GMT, Scott Kitterman :
> > P. S. In case you wonder how maintainerless works, go look at the
> > dusty corners of the Ubuntu archive.
>
> Ubuntu get packages even when nobody ever car
On Monday, December 12, 2016 01:16:49 PM Ian Jackson wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes ("Re: Formal declaration of weak package ownership in
source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers)"):
> > If anyone can unilaterally add themselves as maintainer (to pick
On May 9, 2017 8:09:28 AM EDT, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
>> opt-in "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel
>> that such a list (populated) would demonstrate the transparency and
>> op
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 09:43:31 AM Julien Cristau wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 01:51 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > If this became a requirement, I'd have to terminate my relationship with
> > Debian. These are frankly none of anyone's business.
> Sounds like you missed
On May 10, 2017 3:20:49 PM EDT, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Participation in Debian is voluntary, so saying information
>disclosure is
>> voluntary doesn't really mean anything.
>
>Evidently it does
On Tuesday, August 08, 2017 07:34:47 AM Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 8 août 2017 09:31 +1000, Ben Finney :
> >> However, it is easy to find other packages interacting with
> >> proprietary services without a free implementation. For example, any
> >> package interacting with Google Cloud (golang-go
On August 21, 2017 6:16:51 PM EDT, Sean Whitton
wrote:
>[moving to -project; please drop CCs on follow-ups]
>
>Hello Ximin,
>
>Thank you for writing this.
>
>On Mon, Aug 21 2017, Ximin Luo wrote:
>
>> I don't think using the opportunity of in-person meetings to judge
>> consensus is such a grea
On November 3, 2017 9:09:31 PM EDT, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Steve" == Steve Langasek writes:
>
>Steve> Hi Diane,
>Steve> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 11:48:05AM -0700, Diane Trout wrote:
>>> I only just subscribed and only have read some of the discussion
>>> so this may be a bit
On March 7, 2018 1:38:42 AM UTC, Hakan Ozturk wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am getting virus threat warnings after downloading the source dvds.
>The virus check was limited to the downloaded iso source files.
>I downloaded the files with BitTorrent a second time and I am getting
>the same results. The vir
On Friday, January 04, 2019 01:34:41 PM Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Christian Kastner wrote:
> >On 21/12/2018 01.27, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> >> We are not a Government.
> >
> >We don't have a _Sovereign_ Government, but a Government we most
> >certainly ha
On Friday, January 04, 2019 10:17:56 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > If censorship isn't the right word (and at best, it's not ideal), what's
> > the right word for the chilling effect on willingness to speak in public
> > due to the risk o
On Friday, January 04, 2019 10:55:51 AM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > Nonsense unless you define being an adult as completely and fully
> > understanding exactly what the hundreds of people around the world think
> > is reasonable.
>
> Anyone w
On Saturday, January 05, 2019 02:34:14 PM Russell Stuart wrote:
I have comments only a a couple of the points you raised:
> On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 10:57 +, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> > You are misrepresenting this: it has been said outside of this list
> > that this does not represent an expulsion
On Saturday, January 05, 2019 06:48:31 PM Russell Stuart wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 23:56 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > No. That's not how Debian works. This is a volunteer effort, not a
> > bureaucracy. Delegates are delegated certain authorities and it's up
On Saturday, January 05, 2019 08:42:57 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello Russ, Scott,
>
> On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 11:44am -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Scott Kitterman writes:
> >> I am concerned about Debian becoming over-politicized (beyond the core
> >> iss
On January 6, 2019 12:29:26 PM UTC, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 04:24:32PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 05, 2019 08:42:57 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
>> > Hello Russ, Scott,
>> >
>> > On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 11:44am -08
On Monday, January 07, 2019 07:06:28 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Miles Fidelman writes:
> > On the other hand, the IETF seems to do just fine - with a much larger
> > base of participants, and a lot more room for discussion and debate on
> > contentious issues. Global infrastructure, with distribute
On Friday, January 25, 2019 12:59:35 PM bapt x wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there a reason for avidemux video editor not being in the official
> Debian package repository?
> I see multimedia packages like VLC video player are present in the official
> repository so it should not be a legal problem.
> It
On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:41:51 PM EDT Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm a planet admin although, as you suggest, I think this is outside
> of the area of documented policy.
>
>
>
> > Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they have
> > removed my blog from planet.
On May 25, 2019 9:16:09 PM UTC, Holger Levsen wrote:
>On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 05:49:13PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote:
>> b) The only case where I would consider a forced removal of
>>somebody else's feed by somebody who is not part of planet
>>admin to be justified would be if the furth
On July 6, 2019 6:00:58 PM UTC, Alexander Wirt wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
>> On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote:
>>
>> > > The tone is absolutely civilized.
>> > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again
>and
>> > > again is really high.
On July 6, 2019 9:10:57 PM UTC, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:00:58PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
>> But that is my personal mindset I am coming from. If such a mindset
>is
>> outdated nowadays and not wanted anymore I offer to resign as a
>listmaster.
>
>I think there
On July 10, 2019 1:36:16 AM UTC, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Hi Sam,
>
>Thank you for sending this analysis and the clear effort and thought
>that's gone into it. I'm very glad that you gathered some partial
>data,
>which is a useful addition to the normal mailing list discussions.
>
>I do have some
On July 10, 2019 8:10:40 AM UTC, Sean Whitton wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Over the weekend, Ian Jackson and I met in Cambridge, U.K. to work on
>the design and implementation of tools and processes relating to git &
>Debian packaging.
>
>Main achievement
>
>
>We designed and implemented a
Thanks for trying to work this out.
Comments inline.
Scott K
On July 13, 2019 2:23:15 AM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>Hi. In this message I'm speaking as the DPL facilitating a discussion.
>I'm trying to explain where I see the project consensus (or in this
>case
>lack there of). That is I'm ex
On July 24, 2019 12:34:13 AM UTC, Adam Borowski wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 02:14:38AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
>> On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 00:49:24 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> > ##
>> > I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for
>modification.
>> > Thus
On July 24, 2019 10:43:57 AM UTC, Phil Morrell wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 07:34:02PM +1000, Alexander Zangerl wrote:
>> i detest unwarranted, imposed, uniformity. i *love* consistency. we
>have
>> had consistency in the distribution for ages. we don't need uniform
>> workflows.
>
>It's not
On July 24, 2019 1:16:37 PM UTC, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 24 juillet 2019 12:23 +00, Scott Kitterman :
>
>> This entire discussion feels to me like a small group of developers
>> trying to tell the rest of us "my way or the highway". We are
>> perfect
On July 25, 2019 9:46:08 AM UTC, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 24 juillet 2019 21:29 +00, Scott Kitterman :
>
>>>> This entire discussion feels to me like a small group of developers
>>>> trying to tell the rest of us "my way or the highway". We are
>&g
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:02:14 PM EDT gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:23:42 +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > We are
> > perfectly capable of phasing out obsolete workflows without a
> > hammer like a GR (remember dpatch).
>
> Unrelated to the
On Monday, August 26, 2019 6:01:05 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 7/26/19 6:53 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > It's true it's not extinct, but it's close. It's only used by several
> > dozen packages now. If someone wanted to push to get dpatch completely
&
On September 12, 2019 5:30:24 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>I'm trying to move a thread from -devel.
>
>Ian Jackson responded [1] to part of a consensus discussion on Git
> recommendations. I had said that I think we recommend against the use
> of non-free services like Github but do not forb
On Friday, September 13, 2019 10:52:37 AM EDT Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "MJ" == MJ Ray writes:
> MJ> I have some sympathy with the "send a patch to bugs.debian.org"
> MJ> view. Do any developers ignore those and tell people to join
> MJ> github to use its private version of pull requ
On September 24, 2019 12:10:39 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Bernd" == Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>
>Bernd> On 7/23/19 7:31 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> 1- Mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser, meaning we do mandate using
>>> Git for packaging.
>
> Bernd> why is that a reason for a G
On September 24, 2019 11:15:33 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
>
> >> For several of these recommendations if I cannot get consensus, I
>>> will call for a GR myself.
>
>Scott> W
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:26:39 PM EDT Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We've had a lot of conversations this year about where the
> Anti-Harassment (now *Community*) Team should be going: what we're
> trying to do, and the relationship we'd like to have with the rest of
> the project a
o this deserves to be
>thought through carefully and clear guidelines should be set.
>
>Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> From what does the team believe they derive their authority to do
>things like interpret the CoC and to whom is the team accountable?
>
>Norbert Preining wrote:
&g
On December 13, 2019 4:43:32 AM UTC, Martina Ferrari wrote:
>I forgot to say this earlier, but thanks for reminding me: anybody who
>wants to report me for CoC violations without me reading the complaint
>can do it mailing the other CT members individually.
>
>On 12/12/2019 19:31, Norbert Prein
On December 13, 2019 11:53:21 AM UTC, Enrico Zini wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:49:12AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
>> No, either we have a CoC or not.
>> If it goes so much against your believes, humanity or whatever else,
>> that you can't answer in a sane language, ask somebody else t
On Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:51:04 AM EST John Goerzen wrote:
...
> pygopherd was removed from testing. That makes sense. But also from
> sid, hours after I replied to the bug about this explaining that I was
> actively working on a port and asking it not to be removed. It was
> anyway. Tha
On December 26, 2019 6:21:08 PM UTC, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 04:29:57PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> > Make the machine-readable copyright file mandatory.
>> > It is much easier to "parse" than just a bunch of copyright
>information.
>>
>> hear hear. (as in: what's
On December 28, 2019 2:30:54 PM UTC, Sean Whitton
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>On Sat 28 Dec 2019 at 11:31am +01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
>> I ceertainly agree that our copyright files should be
>machine-readable
>> in _addition_ to being human-readable, not instead.
>>
>> I believe our current machine
On Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:14:21 AM EST Thorsten Alteholz wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > For packages with simple copyright and licensing, machine readable
> > copyright files can take longer to write than a freeform copyright file.
>
> this discussion s
On Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:56:00 AM EST Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat 28 Dec 2019 at 10:46am -05, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > The same information could be included in the machine readable format as
> > comments. It's not the format per se that help
On March 14, 2020 9:18:48 PM UTC, Neil McGovern wrote:
>Hi debian-project and ftpmaster folks,
>
>On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 01:37:59PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> - cope well with flames in response to your decisions
>
>> - after training, comfortable with being on the other end of the
>>
On Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:40:18 PM EDT Sam Hartman wrote:
> I'm pleased to finally be able to propose a Community Team delegation
> for discussion. During the last year it has become clear that we can
> accomplish more at lower emotional cost when we have the Community Team,
> Account Managers
On Friday, April 10, 2020 9:14:43 AM EDT Sam Hartman wrote:
> TL;DR: The concern Scott raises is a good one, and I think he caught me
> out on a wording problem in the delegation text.
>
> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
> Scott> Constit
On Monday, April 13, 2020 3:38:45 PM EDT Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:39:34PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > Does Discourse have some kind of export feature, that one could
> > postprocess to get for example a mailbox of annotated emails?
>
> Yes, though I think there's just au
On April 14, 2020 9:42:33 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Ihor" == Ihor Antonov writes:
>
>
>
>Ihor> I want to leave this as is without final verdict. Everyone
>Ihor> should make their own.
>
>I really appreciate the idea of summarizing the thread; I agree with
>you
>it has gotten l
On April 14, 2020 11:12:10 PM UTC, Sean Whitton
wrote:
>Hello Raphael,
>
>On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 12:28PM +02, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
...
>
>> He was also concerned with the need to do all work under our real
>> identity. Looking into contributors.d.o and db.debian.org, he might
>> have requeste
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:12:21 AM EDT Brian Gupta wrote:
...
> Do we have to start by making it a mandatory switch? I don't feel consensus
> to move to discourse will be impossible in the long term but it's normal
> for human beings to resist change, especially during a time of otherwise
> g
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
...
> Hi,
>
> I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@) and privately (on
> your GMail address) in the name of the Community Team following this
> subthread.
Sigh.
To quote from the recent DPL delegation for your
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:22:32 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le 16 avril 2020 23:17:46 GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman
a écrit :
> >On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >...
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I&#x
On Friday, April 17, 2020 5:07:04 AM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le jeudi 16 avril 2020 à 18:39:06-0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit :
> > When you say you are acting "in the name of the Community Team", you don't
> > get to claim you're just like every
On Sunday, September 11, 2011 05:34:38 PM Charles Plessy wrote:
...
> http://git.debian.org/?p=dbnpolicy/policy.git;a=blob;f=copyright-format/cop
> yright-format.xml http://wiki.debian.org/PolicyChangesProcess
...
"This is not a proposal to change the policy in the short term."
Is the short term
On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 03:09:17 PM Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> It's kinda like a short circuit: diversity statement accept everyone who
> accept the diversity statement, and if your {opinion|ideology|religion}
> doesn't comply with it you'll don't want - in the first place - to be
> part of a pro
On Friday, March 01, 2013 08:19:44 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy writes:
> > Here are the clauses about DRMs in versions 2.5 and 3.0 of the CC-BY
> > licenses respectively.
> >
> > You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or
> > publicly digitally perform the
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 01:38:08 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
> > waiting to happen.
>
> While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing
On Saturday, November 09, 2013 15:00:24 Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:35:36PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > (Posted to -project because I'm writing with my tongue in my cheek.
> > Actually renaming and rewording things would be making our own life
> > difficult to spite Canonical
Steve Langasek wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 11:25:03AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 09, 2013 15:00:24 Colin Watson wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:35:36PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> > > (Posted to -project because I'm
On Saturday, November 09, 2013 22:36:49 Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 06:00:01PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > Both the original letter and Mark Shuttleworth's comments make trademark
> > ownership claims that overreach.
>
> It's overreach bas
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 5:24:47 PM EST Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Felix" == Felix Lechner writes:
> In the interest of full disclosure, I no longer have any affiliation
> with DAM.
>
> Felix> With regard to disciplinary proceedings, however, Debian has
> Felix> a long way to go in i
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:13:03 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
> Sam Hartman writes:
> > Figuring out how to accomplish requesting a statement is a little
> > tricky, but I think it is worth the effort. DAM takes membership
> > actions (including warnings) by consensus. It's fairly difficult t
On February 21, 2022 5:32:35 AM UTC, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Scott Kitterman writes:
>> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:13:03 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> I guess the other possibility is that people really want warnings to be
>>> way more serious than any mean
On February 21, 2022 11:33:07 AM UTC, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>On 2022/02/21 07:06, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
>
>I don't believe that's quite accurate, a DAM warning isn't necessarily
>
On February 21, 2022 12:56:43 PM UTC, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>On 2022/02/21 14:40, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> I didn't intend to communicate that it was a final step. I think we agree.
>> A DAM warning, as you said, indicates someone is on a path to suspension or
>>
On February 21, 2022 5:02:37 PM UTC, Russ Allbery wrote:
>Felix Lechner writes:
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> Or, let me put this another way: one of the fears that I've seen
>>> expressed around warnings is that it's a permanent record sort of
>>> thing, or it
On Monday, February 21, 2022 12:33:55 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
> > The reason it feels like a threat of expulsion is precisely because it
> > is a threat of expulsion. The minimal possible solution to people
> > feeling threatened would be to not
On Monday, February 21, 2022 1:05:04 PM EST Russ Allbery wrote:
> Felix Lechner writes:
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:38 AM Enrico Zini wrote:
> >> Then you need to start taking responsibility for creating conflict when
> >> there was none, which is sadly something I see as a recurring pattern
>
On Monday, February 21, 2022 4:09:37 PM EST Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
> Scott> OTOH, I think a DAM warning for a single instance of someone
> Scott> losing their temper and calling someone an unfortunate name
>
On February 23, 2022 8:50:58 AM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote:
>Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:06:17AM -0500 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
>>
>> Currently a DAM warning is a suspension/expulsion with deferred execution.
>> I
>> think every non-government job I've had ha
On October 10, 2022 7:56:07 AM UTC, Gerardo Ballabio
wrote:
>Didier Raboud wrote:
>> The last aspect would also be to completely remove the source-package-level
>realms; within a subset, there would be no package-specific maintainers or
>vetoes; disputes would move "out" from source-package-le
On October 11, 2022 11:40:20 PM UTC, Charles Plessy wrote:
>Hi Didier,
>
>An interesting side effect of your proposal is that Debian's security
>will be higer as uploading permissions will not be broad by default.
>And I think that a lightweight processe can be designed to allow DDs to
>expand
On Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:52:08 AM EST Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> All,
>
> This is in the context of a mail to the Community Team raising a query about
> fortunes-off - the fortune cookie database that contains offensive
> fortunes.
>
> The specific query was about Nazi quotes from someone
On February 27, 2023 12:45:38 AM UTC, "Roberto A. Foglietta"
wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 21:47, Russ Allbery wrote:
>>
>> "Roberto A. Foglietta" writes:
>>
>> > My proposal to apply the GPLv3 or AGPLv3 - not directly to an object
>> > but - to a collection of objects using the database p
On January 2, 2024 6:04:18 PM UTC, Steven Robbins wrote:
>On Friday, December 29, 2023 2:18:41 P.M. CST Steven Robbins wrote:
>
>
>> In the case of the BTS: it used to email me but that broke a couple years
>> ago and apparently it is hard to fix. So currently a class of us don't get
>> email
t;
>
>Am 2. Januar 2024 20:10:27 MEZ schrieb Scott Kitterman :
>>
>>
>>On January 2, 2024 6:04:18 PM UTC, Steven Robbins wrote:
>>>On Friday, December 29, 2023 2:18:41 P.M. CST Steven Robbins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the case of the BTS:
On January 3, 2024 2:55:35 AM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
>
>
>Scott> Alternatively, BTS users that are interested in others
>Scott> getting their emails might be better off posting from a
>Scot
On January 4, 2024 2:54:28 PM UTC, "Daniel Gröber" wrote:
>Hi Scott,
>
>On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 05:10:43PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> >At least people could be warned that because of the domain they send
>> >from their mail might not get through.
&g
On January 4, 2024 3:15:29 PM UTC, Colin Watson wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 03:54:28PM +0100, Daniel Gröber wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 05:10:43PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > >At least people could be warned that because of the domain they send
>> &
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