Re: Why is ${python3:Depends} injecting cython3-legacy (Was: obitools: runtime dependency on cython)

2023-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
17 Dec 2023 at 18:15, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Is there > > > any better way than editing debian/obitools.substvars in d/rules by > > > adding some override_dh_gencontrol? > > > > Remove the line: > > > > Cython>=0.24 > > > > fro

Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:09:33AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 19:56 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > FTR, UbuntuStudio is an official Ubuntu flavor, not a derivative ;) > Woops. Did that change at some point or did I mix them up with another > distro or jus

Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs

2020-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
FTR, UbuntuStudio is an official Ubuntu flavor, not a derivative ;) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ sl

Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage

2017-08-07 Thread Steve Langasek
always symlinks to the real interpreter on Debian, not wrapper scripts - other distributions have tried to do this as a wrapper script and the result wasn't pretty. Avoiding the performance hit would require that any changes to the banner be made in the python source itself. -- Steve Langasek

Re: packaging problems with python3.5 and python 3.6

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:10:05PM -0400, ba...@debian.org wrote: > On Jul 30, 2017, at 02:41, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote: > >> https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide where it states: > >>You'll want to have at least the f

Re: packaging problems with python3.5 and python 3.6

2017-07-29 Thread Steve Langasek
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/html5-parser.git/commit/?id=4a8e02b20698e35e577482f96efdeb17826d797f > which I reverted afterwards. > Thanks a lot and all the best Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian D

Re: Python3.6 plans​ for Buster

2017-06-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:23:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > [1] pytables is a failure specific to Ubuntu armhf buildds which raise > SIGBUS, this should not affect Debian. python-astropy rebuilds with no > problem, but doesn't pick up python3.6 support. To clarify: python-astro

avoiding regressions with python3-all-dev in between transitions?

2017-05-19 Thread Steve Langasek
symlinked on the filesystem to the default version? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga

Re: Build fails: Architecture: all, no ‘python3-dev’, but ‘setup.py’ expects it

2016-06-12 Thread Steve Langasek
What is broken here? How can I find out? I believe this is a regression in python3.5 3.5.1-15. Similar build failures were seen with this version in Ubuntu. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, an

Re: django-pipeline

2016-03-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 09:21:19AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> writes: > > No. I first noticed this bug because the package failed to build in > > Ubuntu[1], which uses sbuild, not pbuilder. I reproduced the failure in a > > clean s

Re: django-pipeline

2016-03-22 Thread Steve Langasek
y makes sense. No. I first noticed this bug because the package failed to build in Ubuntu[1], which uses sbuild, not pbuilder. I reproduced the failure in a clean sid schroot. I think either your sbuild environment is not clean, or it is not up-to-date. -- Steve Langasek Giv

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
's not my place to judge whether this was a correct disciplinary action for the DPMT, of which I am not a member; but for the record, this does not in any way prevent Thomas from continuing to maintain *his* packages. The DPMT doesn't block a maintainer from moving their packages out of the DPMT reposi

Re: so you want to migrate DPMT/PAPT to git? look at what pgk-perl did!

2015-08-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:10:26AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Aug 15, 2015, at 08:24 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: So, what's the situation? Should we do something during this Debconf? JFDI. :) Yes, let's! -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian

Re: DebConf14 svn-git migration BOF notes

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
at this point, but there is a session here at DebConf14 this evening that will be streamed and might be worth following: https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/75/dgit-treat-the-archive-as-a-git-remote/ -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:43:24PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Am 07.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Steve Langasek: On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:15:37PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: +penumlist + item + p + Applications

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2014-04-20 Thread Steve Langasek
. Why would you expect cross-installing anything as part of an upgrade? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org

Re: Using git-svn and gbp for DPMT - Was: Re: Joining the DPMT and git.debian.org access

2014-01-21 Thread Steve Langasek
user (or the package maintainer) should not have to configure :) But I don't think the DPMT should wait for these buglets to be fixed in git-buildpackage before switching to git. (Not that my opinion matters anyway. :) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS

Re: Python 3 as default

2013-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
. I would like us to be able to drop python2 from Priority: standard in jessie in favor of python3, so that users can reasonably have systems with only python3 installed. Would you accept patches to reportbug and apt-listchanges to move them to python3? Cheers, -- Steve Langasek

Re: Python 3 as default

2013-12-04 Thread Steve Langasek
remember offhand what the others were. In short, I see no reason why Debian would want to stick with python2 by default in Jessie. The barrier is much lower than in Ubuntu, because Debian makes much less use of python in the default install. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: Simplified library style guide based on pybuild

2013-11-10 Thread Steve Langasek
or should not be used. Why can pybuild not autodetect? Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org

Re: Using ‘export http_proxy = http://127.0.9.1:9/’ to fail noisily on dependency problems

2013-10-14 Thread Steve Langasek
they must be downloaded from the mirror. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
anything. Add an option (say, --multiarch-me-harder), so that maintainers can opt-in for :any dependencies. That doesn't sound to me like it's optimizing for the common case. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-18 Thread Steve Langasek
-install on top of the wheezy python, which is a negligible use case. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org

Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-15 Thread Steve Langasek
. Promoting its use, or making /usr/bin/python incompatible with the many existing scripts running on older Debian releases, does not. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu

Re: PEP 394 and shebang lines for /usr/bin/python2 scripts

2013-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
. Just because Arch screwed up doesn't mean we should propagate the ambiguity. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp

Re: On robustness of maintainer scripts

2013-05-21 Thread Steve Langasek
package break during upgrades because it tries to call python and fails looks like a pretty serious bug to me. I'm not sure about what the right way to *fix* it is, but we definitely don't want users' upgrades to blow up... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS

Re: On robustness of maintainer scripts

2013-05-13 Thread Steve Langasek
scripts. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor

Re: Accepted python-defaults 2.7.3-5 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
at the beginning of the release cycle - I would suggest moving on to more constructive topics. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Solving the multiarch triplet once and for all

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Langasek
; and as Dmitrijs mentions, being able to cross-build packages that use python too. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp

Re: #! /usr/bin/python{,3} -Es

2012-10-25 Thread Steve Langasek
effort on this problem unless and until we see a pattern of such abuse (where a pattern is N1)? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Question about dh_python2

2012-08-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:10:00PM +0400, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: This can be caused by extra space in your override_dh_auto_install line: it should be dh_auto_install --prefix=/usr without space after --. No, it shouldn't. --prefix is not an argument to dh_auto_install. -- Steve Langasek

Re: Combining the wiki pages

2011-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek
/PyCentral2DhPython2 http://wiki.debian.org/Python/PythonSupportToDHPython2 Any objections if I do that? I think the current pages strike the right balance between maintainability and having an easy, linear document that maintainers can follow. IMHO it would be nice to keep them as-is. -- Steve Langasek

Re: Problems with python-central+cdbs - dh_python2+cdbs

2011-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
to dh_python2+cdbs, I would love to see it. I don't have an example, because my test case also got converted from cdbs to dh(1) in the middle of the night ;-) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move

Re: Problems with python-central+cdbs - dh_python2+cdbs

2011-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 03:27:00PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: Did you try with: DEB_PYTHON2_MODULE_PACKAGES = ubuntu-system-service Bingo! This is a list of Debian package names, not python package names. If cdbs isn't explicitly

Re: E: dh_python2:146: you most probably have to build extension for python2.5.

2011-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
* weren't already passing --install-layout=deb. However, AIUI the main concern here is about getting dh to compile the extension twice, once for each python version. I don't think --install-layout=deb helps at all for that. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough

Re: Python 2.7 in, Python 2.5 out, dh_python2

2011-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
. Maybe a name like Python/PythonSupportToDHPython2 would be better (with a backwards-compatible redirect added)? I think that would help make this a little easier to find... and certainly make it easier for me to figure out what I'm going to find at that url. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
layout so that git-buildpackage *does* work out of the box, and please *do* use the pristine-tar options. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
in bzr, frankly. Perhaps you're comparing bzr merging with the seemingly common git practice of discarding revision history as a substitute for doing an actual DVCS merge? Having done merges in both systems, I don't see any major differences. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long

Re: problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Langasek
(preferably with patches) for these issues. (Ideally, cc:ing debian-python on the bug reports, so that we don't accidentally wind up with lintian checks that don't match the consensus understanding of how python packages are supposed to work.) Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor

Re: Possible Mass Bug Filing: String Exceptions Removed in Python 2.6

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
be exempted from the MBF. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Langasek
for the good of Debian. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 09:17:44AM +0100, Pietro Battiston wrote: Il giorno mar, 12/01/2010 alle 00.06 -0800, Steve Langasek ha scritto: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:56:08AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:39, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: I have no idea what

Re: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Langasek
TC member, I would disagree. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: RFC: Proposed updates to the Python Policy to reflect current practices

2009-12-11 Thread Steve Langasek
to the + current filepythonvarX/var.varY/var/file executable. The packagepython/package package must also depend on the appropriate packagepythonvarX/var.varY/var/package to -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Lintian warnings for Python packaging?

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Langasek
in adding pedantic tags to lintian. :) The rest seem ok to me. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org

Re: Quick analysis of the Python dist-packages transition

2009-09-20 Thread Steve Langasek
. There is no bug filed against python-central for this. An NMU would be out of order. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: XS-Python-Version vs pyversions

2009-09-09 Thread Steve Langasek
it instead If there is really a consensus about that, it would not be too hard to implement it in dh directly. Architecturally, it looks more appropriate for pyversions to examine the build-depends, not debhelper. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS

Re: XS-Python-Version vs pyversions

2009-09-08 Thread Steve Langasek
tool. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor

Re: XS-Python-Version vs pyversions

2009-09-08 Thread Steve Langasek
documentation that you're wrong. Stop wasting my time. plonk -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga

Re: XS-Python-Version vs pyversions

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
an implementation detail for python-central. They were part of the design that came out of the python packaging BoF in DebConf 6 that you then proceeded to ignore entirely. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
feature. :-) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 05:30:57PM -0500, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: My rebuttal is that if git is technical superior to bazaar because bazaar has a mechanism to create repositories with only partial history, then bazaar

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
without instead making python-based programs excessively brittle during upgrades? There are tradeoffs here. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Steve Langasek
with the conclusion to avoid an upload to unstable for now.) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Langasek
is the steep learning curve and the non-intuitive UI, therefore I do prefer bzr over hg over svn over others. In my opinion git is much more intuitive than any other tool - but you have to climb a bit on the learning curve before you realize it. ... That's not what the word intuitive means. -- Steve

Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost.Python: Build and Install with Python 2.4 and 2.5?

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 09:17:24PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Decorate only the shared library names with the python versions, and retain the current names for the .a files and .so symlinks - with two separate -dev

Re: how to get python-numpy to testing

2007-12-29 Thread Steve Langasek
that has already been made uninstallable? Any ideas how to fix b), so that python-numpy can go to testing? By dealing with python-scipy. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu

Re: python-numpy has problems on buildbots

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Langasek
a build-dependency or a build-conflict (or is buggy in some other way). -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp

Re: ldbl128 transition for alpha, powerpc, sparc and s390?

2007-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
itself. python2.4-dev was such a false positive. If a bug was ever opened for it, it's been closed and archived long ago. You should proceed with the ldbl transition for your own package. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: maintainer field

2007-09-06 Thread Steve Langasek
because a mailing list can never do an upload and therefore it misses the /point/ of the Uploaders field. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-24 Thread Steve Langasek
python 2.4 or better, then the package's current dependencies are wrong... python2.4 is default now so there's no need to add extra dependencies Um, no. Your package is supposed to have a versioned dependency on python (= 2.4), and it doesn't. -- Steve Langasek Give me

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
needs python 2.4 or better, then the package's current dependencies are wrong... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-22 Thread Steve Langasek
that current, = 2.X be used to *successfully* build packages when 2.X is greater than the currently available python-dev. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
-module dependencies, as discussed at Debconf; Do the helpers implement this, or is this going to be a policy that packages can't actually comply with? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:03:37PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 21 mars 2007 à 14:51 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:47:37PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: If this is a public extension, this goes completely against the spirit of the policy

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:59:40PM +0100, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Steve Langasek, 21.03.2007] So with current deprecated, what is the solution for a package which wants to build a single binary extension for the current python version in a package named python-foo, with no support for other

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:16:14PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 02:44:29PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 08:22:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: I think it's time to update the python policy with the progress that has been made in how we

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:05:30AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:51:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:16:14PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: If we don't, I don't see the purpose of the policy alltogether. Allowing transitions between

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
to the supported list. The binNMU is not *required*, true, but doing such binNMUS may be a factor in how smooth the upgrade path is between stable releases. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
extensions (needed for question (2)); * only build things for the default python version (opposed to those who build for as many as possible), knowing that I'm only speaking of packages with public binary modules here. (needed for 2, and for 3) Looks right to me. -- Steve Langasek

Re: PYTHONPATH problem: how to deal with?

2007-02-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:17:35PM -0800, Suhas kurse wrote: I am new to Python programming. I want to set the PYTHONPATH in Windows XP. How should I go about it Appreciate your reply 1) Install Debian 2) ask an on-topic question about Python on Debian HTH, -- Steve Langasek

Re: Transition from sarge-etch for zope packages

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Langasek
package from the etch perspective. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Bug#382252: Python PATH problem

2007-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
of the package that's no longer in the archive? If so, there's nothing RC about this because mercurial wasn't included in sarge. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: debian/pycompat usage?

2006-09-05 Thread Steve Langasek
the mistake to define policies in a meeting. I think the only lesson is to not invite you to such meetings, because you'll piss on any attempt at building consensus anyway. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I

Re: Bug#385909: pyversions: command not found

2006-09-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 08:41:55AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:38:19PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: Suggested packages: python-doc python-profiler The following NEW packages will be installed: python-minimal

Re: Bug#385909: pyversions: command not found

2006-09-03 Thread Steve Langasek
(= 2.3.5-6)... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: help with python transition in pyracerz game

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Langasek
. And if I just ${python:Depends} I receive msg that I need to put python as Dependence. Out of interest (I know someone has already offered you a patch), could you post your package somewhere so that we can understand what went wrong? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long

Re: debian/pycompat usage?

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:18:15AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 25 août 2006 à 17:09 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : As long as these fields don't even have clear semantics, implementing them is, at best, useless. So, why has there been no discussion about the problems

Re: debian/pycompat usage?

2006-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
and deprecate the XS-Python-Version without offering any alternative suitable for mass-detection of binNMU candidates. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: debian/pycompat usage?

2006-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 10:26:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 25 août 2006 à 13:09 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : I object to basing future work exclusively on dh_pysupport as long as it implements your unilateral decision to abandon the XB-Python-Version field

Re: handling packages built supporting the current python revision

2006-08-16 Thread Steve Langasek
for all packages that have XB-Python-Version and XS-Python-Version values, since that's sort of why they're there... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
only declare Provides when something exists in the archive which actually *needs* them, I think the uploads between 1) and 4b) would nearly cancel out, making it a win to avoid the need for post hoc Conflicts. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
would only need to be done on demand for modules that are actually used from scripts invoking a non-default python interpreter. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:32:27AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:01:37 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:10:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 3.1.3. Provides Packages with public modules and extensions should be named

Re: Python Policy suggests dependencies that prevent installation

2006-07-23 Thread Steve Langasek
obsolete versions of dependencies off the system when they're functionally compatible. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Debhelper support should be ready tomorrow

2006-06-12 Thread Steve Langasek
) (for pyversions script) Are packages expected to call pyversions directly, or is this something that should be a versioned dep from one of the other build-dependencies? Hmm, I guess it's called by dh_python, and debhelper doesn't depend on python at all. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
builds (if required). - binNMUing such a package becomes possible to change either $minver or $maxver as needed without any requirement of source edits. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move

Re: Thoughts on apps supporting multiple versions of python

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
dependency nightmares. Unfortunately, I don't know that anyone was taking notes at the python BoF, we were a bit busy running around and discussing; I was hoping that the videos would be on-line sooner than they apparently will be. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough

Re: python-central vs python-support

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
dh_python / python-central solution in unstable, and we do need to get the python2.4 transition started with or without this aid. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL

Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
in the BoF whether it was appropriate to allow building binary modules only for the current version of python, and the agreement was that yes, this was appropriate and support will be implemented. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
, python-ctypes will not be installable (and will need to be updated). -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Re: Thoughts on apps supporting multiple versions of python

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 10:40:50PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: On Sat April 29 2006 16:01, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 06:28:32PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Also, to make python-gtk2 support more than one version, we could only achieve that by providing

Re: cdbs to remove *.pyc on clean?

2006-04-11 Thread Steve Langasek
-build cycle; but that could only happen with non-free packages. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-07 Thread Steve Langasek
that infrastructure in place. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: some issues with the proposals for the python packaging infrastructure

2006-02-08 Thread Steve Langasek
? If you mean, not provide automation for such packages, that seems like a reasonable approach until someone demands support for it and/or provides a patch. :) Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python bindings for debconf, and what ensures that they're installed?) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:52:09AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:40:55AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: I asked this question earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python bindings

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Langasek
that Joss's description of python-support provided for symlinking of other data files that may be included in module directories, other than .py files...) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Steve Langasek
)? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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