Re: Python2.4 packages

2006-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Hendry wrote: http://hendry.iki.fi/debian/unstable/flup_0.2015-1_i386.changes sam$ sudo dpkg -i python-flup_0.2015-1_all.deb (Reading database ... 133811 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace python-flup 0.1968-1

Re: Python2.4 packages

2006-06-19 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 04:49:10PM +0900, Kai Hendry wrote: On 2006-06-19T09:45+0200 Matthias Klose wrote: flup was probably built with python as found in experimental. It was built on unstable. By whom? There is no such package in unstable. It

Re: Missing Provides in python-crypto and others

2006-06-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Matthias Klose [Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:54:27 +0200]: I prepared a python-crypto NMU to fix this, but before uploading I had a look please do, please fix the rules file as well. Except that I can't see what's missing in the rules file, sorry. Other than that, I left the .changes file signed

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060618 11:13]: * Automatic dependency generation in dh_pysupport, removing the need to run dh_python. You mean, this change breaks compatibility with the previous versions of python-support? I strongly recommend to not make such a change.

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060618 23:56]: Le dimanche 18 juin 2006 à 23:12 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : This sucks because: - you didn't voice any concern when I worked on dh_python - you have let me NMU debhelper for that dh_python and then you work against it For

Re: Python2.4 packages

2006-06-19 Thread Duck
Coin, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Making a symlink from python2.4 to python would probably do the trick. Are you root of the world and gonna do this ugly hack on every computer on earth ??? Now please stop with the python symlinks, this has no common sense ; you're giving bad ideas

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 19 juin 2006 à 12:15 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : Don't you think it might be a good idea to explain the policy better if it is not understood correctly? If high-grade developers need explanations, you can't expect the policy to be widely understood in the long term. Also, please

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 13:03]: Le lundi 19 juin 2006 à 12:09 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : Eh, I'm sure you can explain where somebody messed up with dpkg's database? What you can see is only that some programs postinst failed to run successfully. You can get the

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 13:12]: Le lundi 19 juin 2006 à 12:15 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : Don't you think it might be a good idea to explain the policy better if it is not understood correctly? If high-grade developers need explanations, you can't expect the

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Duck
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm always all for improving things. I just don't see it as right solution to break stuff and expectations. If one wants to improve policy, IMHO the way to go is to send out a mail like possible improvements to policy. (And, BTW, I *definitly* don't

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: New webpy for sponsored upload]

2006-06-19 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 04:13:52PM +0900, Kai Hendry wrote: I am a little wary of the new lintian error rule to build depend on python-all-dev|python-dev|python What should I be using in my package's case? Could someone clarify. I have read the new policy, though perhaps I missed something.

Quick poll on what's best

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, as you may have read in the previous mail, the latest dh_python uses a debian/pyversions file to find out the Python versions that the packages supports but uses as fallback the XS-Python-Version field in order to not break compatibility with packages that have already been updated. For

Re: Python2.4 packages

2006-06-19 Thread Duck
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: python-flup is not an official package (yet?), so what's wrong with giving a bit of an ad-hoc work-around? Because we'll see again a young maintainer giving such advice to his bugreporter like if it was a real solution in a proper Debian system. So please

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Duck
Coin, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What still needs to be done: - pyversions needs to be modified to not fail if the field XS-Python-Version is not present. He should in that case use the information of the debian/pyversions file. I will hopefully soon provide a patch

More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, a last remark/discussion. Given that the XS-Python-Version field is no more required, I think it shouldn't be mentionned as part of the official policy but only as example on how to implement the policy with the help of python-central. I will update the wiki page as soon as the updated

Re: More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 19:31]: a last remark/discussion. Given that the XS-Python-Version field is no more required, I think it shouldn't be mentionned as part of the official policy but only as example on how to implement the policy with the help of python-central. I

Orphaning Python packages

2006-06-19 Thread Joe Wreschnig
Hi everyone, I am no longer going to be involved in Python module packaging. I've orphaned feedparser and the GStreamer Python bindings (the 0.8 and 0.10 versions). These are used by several packages, and so I hope someone adopts them. feedparser is a pretty easy package, the GStreamer ones

Re: Python2.4 packages

2006-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: python-flup is not an official package (yet?), so what's wrong with giving a bit of an ad-hoc work-around? Because we'll see again a young maintainer giving such advice to his

Re: Orphaning Python packages

2006-06-19 Thread Carlos Galisteo
Hello Joe. I could be interested about adopting feedparser since I use it in a couple programs. Bad news are that I'm a really new mantainer and could need some initial help (no problem about looking for a sponsor). If you have no problems about that I'll adopt it and start working on

Re: More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Andy, On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: We shouldn't have two vastly different ways to do it. Life would be best if we had already taken a decision... we know this but it is not going to happen until we have more experience with both python-central and python-support. Either,

Re: Quick poll on what's best

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: So you're removing one of the control fields while adding yet another one in your previous mail? I'm not removing it... I'm transfering responsibility of that field to python-central. I want dh_python to be used by everybody so that we have sane and

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 13:49]: Le lundi 19 juin 2006 à 13:28 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : Calling /bin/false doesn't entirely break the system. It seems that you are unaware with the way dpkg works. If a package's postinst fails, the package is marked is

Re: Orphaning Python packages

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joe Wreschnig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 19:47]: The Python policy SGML document is available at http://people.debian.org/~piman/python-policy, I suggest someone with more patience adopts it and finds a new canonical home for it. Please give the first bullet point in the Upgrade Procedure

Re: More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060619 21:08]: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: We shouldn't have two vastly different ways to do it. Life would be best if we had already taken a decision... we know this but it is not going to happen until we have more experience with both

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - pyversions needs to be modified to not fail if the field XS-Python-Version is not present. He should in that case use the information of the debian/pyversions file. I will hopefully soon provide a patch for this. Here's a patch and the

Re: More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:07:00PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: BTW, the syntax of the Python-Version field comes directly from python-central and it has not been discussed if the current syntax is the best needed to achieve the second point.

Re: More updates for the policy

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: My impression was that we *did* a decision how to handle the meta-information, and just didn't decide about the implementation. You can review the video of the BoF but I don't have time for that. common denominator that I have found on which both

Re: Updated python-support

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Matthias Klose wrote: Raphael Hertzog writes: What Josselin is criticizing is the fact that python-central heavily relies on the P-V field, it looks it up in /var/lib/dpkg/status and also uses /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.list to find out files to byte-compile. This is

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - uses XS-Python-Standards-Version: 0.4 as reference field to run in new policy mode. The presence of XS-Python-Version will also trigger the new policy mode (this is for short-term compatibility, it may be removed in

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 01:34:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - uses XS-Python-Standards-Version: 0.4 as reference field to run in new policy mode. The presence of XS-Python-Version will also trigger the new policy mode (this is for

Re: Orphaning Python packages

2006-06-19 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-19 12:48:22 -0500]: I've orphaned feedparser and the GStreamer Python bindings (the 0.8 and I've also put python-mutagen up for adoption. I'm upstream for this to a regression in Pygame/SDL) or quodlibet please let me know. I would be interested in

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 06:49 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060620 01:35]: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - uses XS-Python-Standards-Version: 0.4 as reference field to run in new policy mode. The presence of XS-Python-Version

Re: Updated dh_python to satisfy everybody

2006-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joe Wreschnig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060620 07:14]: On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 06:49 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060620 01:35]: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - uses XS-Python-Standards-Version: 0.4 as reference field to run in new