Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-11 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
 unstable. Debian is not a museum for old python versions. What hinders
 you to install the python1.5 packages from woody in unstable? apt
 tagging is your friend.

Until Python 1.5 is truly dead, many people who use Debian as a development
platform need to check Python1.5 compatibility. For the sake of this
argument, I'd say Python 1.5 is dead when it's no longer the Red Hat
default Python version. If you don't want it in unstable, fine -- don't
maintain it.




Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-11 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Matthias Klose wrote:
 Moshe Zadka writes:
  I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.
 
 I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
 unstable.

I don't think it is up to individual Debian developers to decide what
packages should be allowed in Debian.

  Neil




Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-11 Thread Matthias Klose
Neil Schemenauer writes:
 Matthias Klose wrote:
  Moshe Zadka writes:
   I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.
  
  I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
  unstable.
 
 I don't think it is up to individual Debian developers to decide what
 packages should be allowed in Debian.

??? Interisting. So I am allowed to package perl3, quichote-0.1 and
marlais 0.5?




Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Wednesday 11 September 2002 15:00, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Neil Schemenauer writes:
  Matthias Klose wrote:
   Moshe Zadka writes:
I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.
  
   I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
   unstable.
 
  I don't think it is up to individual Debian developers to decide what
  packages should be allowed in Debian.

 ??? Interisting. So I am allowed to package perl3, quichote-0.1 and
 marlais 0.5?

If you wanted to and could make sure it did not break anything, why not.  I 
could definately see something like this making sense in a corporate setting.  
A Debian devel may not be allowed to upgrade some of their boxes and it would 
be easier to use foo X.Y on all platforms than deal with the compatibility.

This is also why it makes sense to keep python1.5 around.  As Moshe points out 
python1.5 is still the python most RH users get and it is way too easy to let  
a 2.x ism into your code.  Hell on a python list this morning I was reminded 
that a solution I proposed only works in 2.2.1+.




Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-10 Thread Matthias Klose
Moshe Zadka writes:
 I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.

I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
unstable. Debian is not a museum for old python versions. What hinders
you to install the python1.5 packages from woody in unstable? apt
tagging is your friend.

Matthias

PS: You have to ask Gregor to hand over maintainership.




Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-10 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Sep 10, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Moshe Zadka writes:
  I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.
 
 I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
 unstable. Debian is not a museum for old python versions. What hinders
 you to install the python1.5 packages from woody in unstable? apt
 tagging is your friend.

Well, two problems I can see:

1. Woody will eventually go away to archive.debian.org land, not long
   after sarge is released.

2. There are woody Python packages that want libdb1, which disappears
   from libc6 in sid/sarge.

I agree we shouldn't keep it around forever, but it seems like as long
as people are using python1.5 with post-woody we should keep it.


Chris
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Re: Maintaining Python 1.5

2002-09-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 10 September 2002 15:09, Chris Lawrence wrote:
 On Sep 10, Matthias Klose wrote:
  Moshe Zadka writes:
   I was wondering if you mind passing Python 1.5 maintainership to me.
 
  I do not mind passing the maintainership, but I do mind keeping it in
  unstable. Debian is not a museum for old python versions. What hinders
  you to install the python1.5 packages from woody in unstable? apt
  tagging is your friend.

 Well, two problems I can see:

 1. Woody will eventually go away to archive.debian.org land, not long
after sarge is released.

 2. There are woody Python packages that want libdb1, which disappears
from libc6 in sid/sarge.

 I agree we shouldn't keep it around forever, but it seems like as long
 as people are using python1.5 with post-woody we should keep it.


 Chris

Plus there are alreayy glibc changes in sid/sarge so people running woody are 
being forced to upgrade glibc or compile packages by hand.

There is still a fair amount of software that has only been tested with 1.5 so 
it is not necessarily museum quality.