Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2018-02-06 Thread Peter Jansen
In the mean time the hang problem has been fixed, on both the official Hyperion 
and SDL Fish Hyperion forks, and also on my fork of the Spinhawk Hercules 
(https://github.com/Peter-J-Jansen/spinhawk; a pull request has been issued).

However, installing Debian 9 directly under Hercules still encounters problems 
with both the CTCI and OSA layer 2 and layer 3 devices. (I will investigate 
this further after my vacation, and try to find and fix the problem.) Only the 
installation of Debian 9 under VM works fine. The resulting Debian 9 works 
fine, also when IPL‘d directly under Hercules.

Peter Jansen

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> On 7 Feb 2018, at 01:25, Jerry Heyman <heym...@acm.org> wrote:
> 
> I have downloaded the latest Debian 9 DVD ISO for s390x -
> debian-9.3.0-s390x-DVD-1.iso - and the installation hang 
> issue is still present.  Is there an actual solution for Debian 9, or can
> someone point me to where I can download a 
> Debian 8 s390x ISO?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> jerry
> 
> 
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Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2018-02-06 Thread Jerry Heyman
I have downloaded the latest Debian 9 DVD ISO for s390x -
debian-9.3.0-s390x-DVD-1.iso - and the installation hang 
issue is still present.  Is there an actual solution for Debian 9, or can
someone point me to where I can download a 
Debian 8 s390x ISO?

Thanks!

jerry



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Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-11-20 Thread Peter Jansen
I too have experienced the installation problem of Debian 9.2.1 on Hercules
ending with the last visible message on the Hercules console log being
"Configure the network device".

Reading the assumption of a possible Hercules bug in this thread, I verified
the Hercules source ("service.c"), and added some extra debugging code. The
result of this (bit more than trivial) exercise is that I cannot find any
problems on the Hercules side of things. The fact that Debian 8.9.0 does
this correctly also reinforces my suspicion that this is probably not a
Hercules bug, but rather a Debian 9 or Debian 9 installer bug.

As a side note, my successful circumvention to obtain a working Debian 9.2.1
s390x installation was to perform it under VM under Hercules. The final
result IPL's just fine under Hercules without VM, using Hercules Spinhawk
3.13 or Hercules 4.0 Hyperion, both the official Hyperion as well as the SDL
Hyperion by "Fish". I am now in the process of (a) trying to find out why
the CTCM device does not always come on-line by itself, sometimes I need to
"shutdown -r now" a few times on the Hercules console, (b) learning how to
do a persistent addition of an LCS device, (c) repeating the same
installation with a QETH device under Hyperion, which works, but also not
always comes on-line by itself, and if it does, ignores the static IP
address setup but goes DHCP instead. I might need to ask for support later,
right now I'm still in the learning phase of things.

Thanks,

Peter J. Jansen  



Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-08-19 Thread Philipp Kern
On 08/19/2017 09:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> So it's not kernel issue or anything else. It must be something wrong
>> with installer itself. Should I report a problem somewhere? or we are
>> only ones who can't do fresh install on hercules?
> 
> I'm happy to retest if you can give me the hercules.cnf you used.

Bercik sent me their config and I'm able to confirm the bad behavior.
But it looks to me as if console messages are swallowed. As soon as I
add sleep() calls around all my writes, they succeed. (Which makes
printf debugging very weird.)

And indeed, if I enter ".1" it continues with "The following device
numbers might belong to CTC or ESCON connections.". So all that happens
is that either Hercules or the kernel while sending swallows the output
and you can't actually see the prompts. That also matches the fact that
there are very few startup messages from the kernel altogether.
Essentially every message that doesn't have a bunch of other messages
following (plus the first of the batch) lands on the console, the other
ones are discarded.

That makes me incredibly suspicious that this is a problem in Hercules.
It's also not in the typescript generated by script(1), so it's not
simply overwriting screen content either. I guess we'd need to either
raise this with the Hercules people or instrument Hercules to see where
the lines are missed.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern



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Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-08-19 Thread Philipp Kern
On 19.08.2017 20:40, Bercik wrote:
> Hello again,
> 
> I did it!  Problem is not fixed, but I figured out a workaround:
> - install Debian 8.1
> - do upgrade with 9 sources.list
> - do dist-upgrade after that
> 
> 
> proof:
> bercik@rescue:~$ cat /etc/issue.net 
> Debian GNU/Linux 9
> bercik@rescue:~$ uname -a
> Linux rescue 4.9.0-3-s390x #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06)
> s390x GNU/Linux
> bercik@rescue:~$ date
> sob, 19 sie 2017, 20:38:28 CEST
> bercik@rescue:~$ 
> 
> 
> So it's not kernel issue or anything else. It must be something wrong
> with installer itself. Should I report a problem somewhere? or we are
> only ones who can't do fresh install on hercules?

I'm happy to retest if you can give me the hercules.cnf you used.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern



Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-08-19 Thread Bercik
Title: Re: Debian 9 on hercules


Hello again,

I did it!  Problem is not fixed, but I figured out a workaround:
- install Debian 8.1
- do upgrade with 9 sources.list
- do dist-upgrade after that


proof:
bercik@rescue:~$ cat /etc/issue.net 
Debian GNU/Linux 9
bercik@rescue:~$ uname -a
Linux rescue 4.9.0-3-s390x #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) s390x GNU/Linux
bercik@rescue:~$ date
sob, 19 sie 2017, 20:38:28 CEST
bercik@rescue:~$ 


So it's not kernel issue or anything else. It must be something wrong with installer itself. Should I report a problem somewhere? or we are only ones who can't do fresh install on hercules?

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Regards,
 Bartłomiej "Bercik" Kacprzak


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Hello list,

I also confirm Bercik's finding from an previous e-mail (18 Jun 2017, https://lists.debian.org/debian-s390/2017/06/msg6.html) - Debian 9 IPL stops when network interfaces configuration is coming up.
Last visible message is "Configure the network device".
Debian 8.9 with same Hercules configuration shows the expected network configuration menu.

Tested with: Debian 9.1 netinst

p.s. while using Debian 8.9, the SSH server for the installer fails to sent the password prompt (ie. transport layer is working, but user authentication isn't) - any ideas?

BR
Ivan



AW: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-08-03 Thread benjamin . zimmermann
  I had a similar problem on a z13 configuring multiple OSAs. Generally I let sshd wait for the interfaces to be fully initialized and sshd would successfully start afterwards and the system came up.I'll be able to check my modification on Monday, maybe that will help on hercules, too.Greetings,Ben.--So Long, and Thanks for All the FishVon: Ivan PozderovicGesendet: Dienstag, 1. August 2017 21:06An: debian-s390@lists.debian.orgAntwort an: Ivan PozderovicBetreff: Re: Debian 9 on herculesHello list,I also confirm Bercik's finding from an previous e-mail (18 Jun 2017, https://lists.debian.org/debian-s390/2017/06/msg6.html) - Debian 9 IPL stops when network interfaces configuration is coming up.Last visible message is "Configure the network device".Debian 8.9 with same Hercules configuration shows the expected network configuration menu.Tested with: Debian 9.1 netinstp.s. while using Debian 8.9, the SSH server for the installer fails to sent the password prompt (ie. transport layer is working, but user authentication isn't) - any ideas?BRIvan



Re: Debian 9 on hercules

2017-08-01 Thread Ivan Pozderovic
Hello list,
I also confirm Bercik's finding from an previous e-mail (18 Jun 2017, 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-s390/2017/06/msg6.html) - Debian 9 IPL 
stops when network interfaces configuration is coming up.
Last visible message is "Configure the network device".
Debian 8.9 with same Hercules configuration shows the expected network 
configuration menu.
Tested with: Debian 9.1 netinst
p.s. while using Debian 8.9, the SSH server for the installer fails to sent the 
password prompt (ie. transport layer is working, but user authentication isn't) 
- any ideas?
BR
Ivan

Debian 9 on hercules

2017-06-18 Thread Bercik
  Hello folks,
 
I'll  be brief: tried to install new Debian 9 into hercules. IPL stops
when we are about to set up network interfaces.
- Tried with netinstall, xfce and clean IPL from reader.
- Tried with hercules 3.07 and new hyperion

I  remember  that  other  distros  (RHEL,  SLES,  Ubuntu) stopped with
comment  they  require modern hardware (modern CPU versions), but here
I get nothing... it just stops.


Log here:
 4.761929! Brought up 8 CPUs
 5.008546! clocksource: jiffies: mask: 0x max_cycles: 0x, 
ma 
 6.470271! VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.6.0 
 
 6.573463! NET: Registered protocol family 1
 
25.021915! Freeing initrd memory: 10152K (0100 - 
019ea00 
25.216489! audit: initializing netlink subsys (disabled)

  
25.338155! Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 
2 
25.442243! registered taskstats version 1   
 
25.827984! ima: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass
 
27.853568! ctcm: CTCM driver initialized
 
28.254244! random: crng init done   
 
Starting system log daemon: syslogd,
 
klogd.  
 
 1;24r 4l(B)0 m 1;24r H J 24;1H m   
 
 1;24r 4l(B)0 m 1;24r H J 24;1H m   
 
Configure the network device


Any ideas?

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Regards,
 Bartłomiej "Bercik" Kacprzak