Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-20 Thread Hans-Joachim Picht
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:07:23 +0100, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [...]

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-20 Thread Andrew Tait
Smith - The Matrix - Original Message - From: Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-Security List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote: Exim does

Re: Mailserver HDD organization - antivirus sw

2002-01-20 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya andrew theres's about a dozen anti-virus sw... http://www.Linux-sec.net/Mail/#AntiVirus have fun linuxing alvin On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote: I am using Exiscan: http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/. Installation is fairly straight forward. Along with the linux version of

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-20 Thread Hans-Joachim Picht
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:07:23 +0100, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [...]

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-20 Thread Andrew Tait
Smith - The Matrix - Original Message - From: Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-Security List debian-security@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote

Re: Mailserver HDD organization - antivirus sw

2002-01-20 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya andrew theres's about a dozen anti-virus sw... http://www.Linux-sec.net/Mail/#AntiVirus have fun linuxing alvin On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote: I am using Exiscan: http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/. Installation is fairly straight forward. Along with the linux version of

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread kuepper
hi all, i have one question. I am going to start a security companie. I know, every person must choose its own mailserver software. I have tryed out qmail, exim and a little bit postfix. Qmail seams to be very secure and very fast. The configuration i think is to difficult vor every System. Now

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users? Hm, well, Cambridge University, home of Exim, has what, several tens of thousands? They seem to be doing OK with Exim: $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp Trying 131.111.8.67... Connected to

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 12:37 PM + 1/19/02, Pete Ryland wrote: I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. It's quite common practice (I'm sure a lot on this list may do so) to display a version string that is not at all accurate in an attempt to put off crackers or create a honeypot.

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Hans-Joachim Picht
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:04:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Thomas, why schould i not use exim for my customers? Is it insecure? (i have read the mailinglists and there is nothing i have heard about) das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users? --- cut --- From [EMAIL

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Johannes Weiss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 19. January 2002 13:37, Pete Ryland wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote: $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp Trying 131.111.8.67... Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk. Escape character is '^]'. 220

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Johannes Weiss wrote: 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:01:26 + * It says that it's Exim [...] I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. ACK, but the is syntactically correct is an Exim proof I think. AIUI,

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Hendrik Naumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AIUI, Exim was originally written to handle Cambridge's email anyway, so the fact that hermes is running Exim isn't a huge surprise. :) The Mailserver of TU-Berlin (I think more than 1 Users) and other central Mailserver here run Exim.

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Hendrik Naumann wrote: Why whas Exim choosen to be the standart MTA for Debian? It was a good successor to smail, postfix didn't exist yet, sendmail ate too much resources and the rest was too obscure. Wichert. -- _

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread kuepper
hi all, i have one question. I am going to start a security companie. I know, every person must choose its own mailserver software. I have tryed out qmail, exim and a little bit postfix. Qmail seams to be very secure and very fast. The configuration i think is to difficult vor every System. Now

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users? Hm, well, Cambridge University, home of Exim, has what, several tens of thousands? They seem to be doing OK with Exim: $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp Trying 131.111.8.67... Connected to

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Pete Ryland
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote: $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp Trying 131.111.8.67... Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk. Escape character is '^]'. 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:58:44 +

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 12:37 PM + 1/19/02, Pete Ryland wrote: I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. It's quite common practice (I'm sure a lot on this list may do so) to display a version string that is not at all accurate in an attempt to put off crackers or create a honeypot.

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Johannes Weiss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 19. January 2002 13:37, Pete Ryland wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote: $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp Trying 131.111.8.67... Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk. Escape character is '^]'. 220

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Johannes Weiss wrote: 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:01:26 + * It says that it's Exim [...] I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. ACK, but the is syntactically correct is an Exim proof I think. AIUI,

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Hendrik Naumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AIUI, Exim was originally written to handle Cambridge's email anyway, so the fact that hermes is running Exim isn't a huge surprise. :) The Mailserver of TU-Berlin (I think more than 1 Users) and other central Mailserver here run Exim.

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Hendrik Naumann wrote: Why whas Exim choosen to be the standart MTA for Debian? It was a good successor to smail, postfix didn't exist yet, sendmail ate too much resources and the rest was too obscure. Wichert. -- _

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote: Exim does everything that I want, RBL, anti-virus with the exiscan program, and custom filters as well. I run exim as well on the mail server of my institute, and I am investigating the possibility to add virus scanning capability on it, would you mind

Re: my /boot recommendation (was: Re: Mailserver HDD organization)

2002-01-18 Thread eim
/boot partition is OK. but I also want to use sofwtare RAID on the mailserver, I'm going to patch Debian's Potato stable Kernel-2.2.19 against RAID support. Let me say I organize my server this way... Disk: /dev/sda --- /

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:05:18PM -0500, Federico Grau wrote: i would suggest you to use not exim. exim is a very nice MTA but the best mind of security and performance is qmail! Which is very complicated to administer and install, try postfix for not to big sites (a matter of taste

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Volker Tanger
Greetings! On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:06:37AM +0100, eim wrote: I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts. As you want to use exim and mailing list, you will want to have a partition for /var or /var/spool instead of

my /boot recommendation (was: Re: Mailserver HDD organization)

2002-01-18 Thread Peter Wiersig
On Thursday, 17. January 2002 19:05, Federico Grau wrote: Boot is where kernels live (placed at the start of the disk for old bioses that cannot read far into large disks ... your bios may not need it... experiment if you have time). I have a lot of kernels on my system, 6 and my boot

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote: Exim does everything that I want, RBL, anti-virus with the exiscan program, and custom filters as well. I run exim as well on the mail server of my institute, and I am investigating the possibility to add virus scanning capability on it, would you mind

Re: my /boot recommendation (was: Re: Mailserver HDD organization)

2002-01-18 Thread eim
/boot partition is OK. but I also want to use sofwtare RAID on the mailserver, I'm going to patch Debian's Potato stable Kernel-2.2.19 against RAID support. Let me say I organize my server this way... Disk: /dev/sda --- /

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:05:18PM -0500, Federico Grau wrote: i would suggest you to use not exim. exim is a very nice MTA but the best mind of security and performance is qmail! Which is very complicated to administer and install, try postfix for not to big sites (a matter of taste

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-18 Thread Volker Tanger
Greetings! On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:06:37AM +0100, eim wrote: I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts. As you want to use exim and mailing list, you will want to have a partition for /var or /var/spool instead of

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license -- Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta | They that give up essential liberty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license please, use whatever good MTA

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Samu
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:22:07PM +0100, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license we could

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Gerrit Kilian
Hi there On the subject of MTA's, is there no groupware like Lotus Domino or exchance server available on Debian? Personaly I feel all Linux MTA's are very good. Is it not just a matter of personal choice? Kind Regards Gerrit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread vdongen
: Mailserver HDD organization On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license -- Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta | They that give up

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Dave Kline
Gonzalez Iniesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:07 +0100 Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread eim
mmh, conclusions... ...I think I'm going to use exim. exim runs fine with Mailman for the lists, has spam filtering... and is avaiable as binary and completly free under Debian Potato 2.2r5. Anyway I'll consider qmail for future upgrades. Thanks for all replays, have a nice day... -Ivo On

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ivo for partitions... - i prefer smallest/reasonable / partitions ( 64M or 128M etc ) - getting into single user mode is extremely important - /var/spool/{mail,mqueue} in a mail server should be its own huge partitions ??? - /home doesnt

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread J C Lawrence
On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100 eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts. MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. As such, if possible devote a spindle to /var/spool/mail and do what you can to

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:23:02 -0500 Dave Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how comfortable are you guys with Exim? -A. Dave Very. I like, and use both Exim and Postfix in deployed production systems. -- J C Lawrence

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Federico Grau
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-Security List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: Mailserver HDD organization Hallo to everyone on the Debian Sec.

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:16:05AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100 eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts. MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. As such,

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Andrew Tait
: +61 (03) 58 711 874 It's the smell! If there is such a thing. Agent Smith - The Matrix - Original Message - From: Dave Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-Security List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license -- Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta | They that give up essential liberty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license please, use whatever good MTA

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Samu
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:22:07PM +0100, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better license we could

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Gerrit Kilian
Hi there On the subject of MTA's, is there no groupware like Lotus Domino or exchance server available on Debian? Personaly I feel all Linux MTA's are very good. Is it not just a matter of personal choice? Kind Regards Gerrit

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Dave Kline
: Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:07 +0100 Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get. please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail

RE: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Ronny Adsetts
I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how comfortable are you guys with Exim? I use Exim here for a low throughput small office mail server, grabbing aliases from LDAP. I'm very happy with it - the documentation is extensive, and the configuration is a doddle. The Exim user

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread eim
mmh, conclusions... ...I think I'm going to use exim. exim runs fine with Mailman for the lists, has spam filtering... and is avaiable as binary and completly free under Debian Potato 2.2r5. Anyway I'll consider qmail for future upgrades. Thanks for all replays, have a nice day... -Ivo On

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ivo for partitions... - i prefer smallest/reasonable / partitions ( 64M or 128M etc ) - getting into single user mode is extremely important - /var/spool/{mail,mqueue} in a mail server should be its own huge partitions ??? - /home doesnt mean

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread J C Lawrence
On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100 eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts. MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. As such, if possible devote a spindle to /var/spool/mail and do what you can to

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:23:02 -0500 Dave Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how comfortable are you guys with Exim? -A. Dave Very. I like, and use both Exim and Postfix in deployed production systems. -- J C Lawrence

Re: Mailserver HDD organization

2002-01-17 Thread Andrew Tait
-Original Message- From: Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:07 +0100 Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get