opinion is,
with privacy, you can never have too much.
Thanks,
Paul
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilence.
Curt Howland wrote:
there is already a HowTo on how to create an encrypted
loop-back file system. it doesn't encrypt the whole
disk, but it could certainly hold
Couldn't you say something like I'm so sorry, I can't remember the pass
phrase, my mind has failed me...etc?
Are there real truth serums?
hehe,
Paul
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:01:17AM +0200, clemens wrote:
SAWFASP^*
as laws around the globe are forged to weak
Couldn't you say something like I'm so sorry, I can't remember the pass
phrase, my mind has failed me...etc?
Are there real truth serums?
hehe,
Paul
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:01:17AM +0200, clemens wrote:
SAWFASP^*
as laws around the globe are forged to weak
on debian-security-announce a couple of days
previously.
My understanding is that debian-security IS more or less a debian-
user for security issues. :)
Paul Haesler
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"We are the Steely-Pips and we have no fear, no
spats in our vats, no rules, no schools, no gloom,
no
I went to a talk by Paul "Rusty" Russell (who maintains the
firewalling code in the Linux kernel) last year. Now I don't have
my notes with me so I'm just going by my highly fallible memory
here, but Rusty definitely said that blocking ICMP was evil and
anti-social. I can't remember
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From: Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Dossett [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:17 AM
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Hello,
Make sure you have klogd and syslogd running.
Ed
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From: Paul Dossett [mailto
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From: Ronny Adsetts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Dossett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:27 AM
Subject: RE: Problem with logging firewall packets
Okay, I'm *really* embarrassed about this, but I can't get syslog to log
firewall packets to a logfile
I like this. Would it be difficult to modify Debian, so that
upon install, it creates an encrypted root volume and starts
things off the right way?
-Original Message-
From: clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:04 PM
Subject: root
Besides not passing those arguments to printf( ), what C/C++
function(s) I should take extra care while using?
All of them.
No, seriously.
Paul Haesler
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We are the Steely-Pips and we have no fear, no
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.
And even OpenBSD don't audit every single line of code in every
package - they audit every critical software component. That
word critical wouldn't be there if it didn't mean something.
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it has those common commands builtin and does
not depend on the files being in the jail.
However, how would you use ls which resides in /bin/ls, if you are
jailed into /home/username ?? As I see it, it cannot be done (though it
would be nice)
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it is a Good Thing to have an MTA which does not run as
root. I found the argument persuasive, and happily installed postifx.
I do miss one thing from exim, however.
Default debian installation of exim runs as mail:
[paul@marge procmail] grep exim /etc/inetd.conf
smtpstream
.
Apart from a few applications I just have to use I find its interface slows me
down. I'll qualify that by saying that I am definately a techy user. Still
this is getting OT for this list - perhaps move onto user?!
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not see a problem here.
Also check /var/spool/mqueue... if also using outgoing e-mail
Well, lets try it shall we:
[paul@marge ~] cd /usr/sbin
[paul@marge sbin] su
Password:
[marge /usr/sbin]# ls -l exim
-rwsr-xr-x1 root mail 430740 Jun 9 07:21 exim
[marge
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below. Are fixed pacakges on their way to security.debian.org? Did ASF
notify any vendors in advance of their announcement today?
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement.html
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:35:53PM +0100, Ralf Dreibrodt wrote:
Paul Hampson wrote:
You can effectively chroot php files with:
php_admin_value open_basedir /directory/where/files/are
in the Apache virtual host config. Then:
a) php4 won't let files outside that directory be accessed
. (If you're using
the cgi version, then this might not work... Then of course you
can use suexec or SetEnv PHPRC to do it... See bug #161627)
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Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did,
we'd be running around in darkened rooms, popping pills
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It seems that it should `grep LISTEN` as well.
Comments?
I would guess that only TCP sockets get 'LISTEN' but I don't
know the output of lsof to confirm this.
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the security system,
instead of the _data_ used to secure it. It's a bad idea because
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The Boss
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Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did,
we'd be running around in darkened rooms, popping pills
will never get to know it.
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for it. Someone who actually uses that support would
be better to complete that answer, though.
Will the information superhighway have any rest stops?
Doesn't look like it. Can you make due with rolling down the
Windows(tm) and aiming it towards the shoulder?
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http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/source/
This probably is the reason for apt-check-sigs to complain about bad
checksums of the Packages and Sources files.
Could somebody please take care of this?
Paul
Paul Hink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Release file of stable/updates on security.debian.org and its
OpenPGP signature seem to be missing an update after the latest
security updates for Woody were released yesterday:
[...]
This probably is the reason for apt-check-sigs to complain about
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Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 2005-01-29 22:56:39, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Where is it posted that the dropped support for 2.4.18?
It was on debian-devel and debian-kernel
Both of which are lists mainly intended for developers
Repasi Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I'm missing DSA-665 on the DSA mailing list ... is it
possible it wasn't posted?
http://www.debian.org/security/faq#missing
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That would be great, i always wanted to remove random people from the list
when i was bored. ;)
Paul.
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:00:58PM -0600, Mason wrote:
It would be nice to have the mailing list software support 'unsubscribe
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announce it on freshmeat, have it distributed to thousands of people -- and
have malicious code inside it. I mean, hey, do you always read the Makefile
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install?
Just my five nickels
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-security-announce a couple of days
previously.
My understanding is that debian-security IS more or less a debian-
user for security issues. :)
Paul Haesler
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We are the Steely-Pips and we have no fear, no
spats in our vats, no rules, no schools, no gloom,
no evil
It accepts all other traffic to non-privileged ports. i prefer to
allow traffic without the syn flag (not initiating a new connection)
only, not all misc traffic, it's more secure, the way to do it is
like:
ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 1024:65535 -p tcp ! -y -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A
I went to a talk by Paul Rusty Russell (who maintains the
firewalling code in the Linux kernel) last year. Now I don't have
my notes with me so I'm just going by my highly fallible memory
here, but Rusty definitely said that blocking ICMP was evil and
anti-social. I can't remember the exact
? The crappy
ipchains test script I've rigged is working, a grc.com scan is being blocked
in all the right ways, but I just can't get the logs on magnetic media...
what really simple, obvious, even-a-redheaded-stepchild-could-work-it-out
step am I missing?
Thanks...
Paul D
-crap-
-
From: Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Dossett [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-security@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:17 AM
Subject: RE: Problem with logging firewall packets
Hello,
Make sure you have klogd and syslogd running.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: Paul
- Original Message -
From: Ronny Adsetts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Dossett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:27 AM
Subject: RE: Problem with logging firewall packets
Okay, I'm *really* embarrassed about this, but I can't get syslog to log
firewall packets to a logfile
I like this. Would it be difficult to modify Debian, so that
upon install, it creates an encrypted root volume and starts
things off the right way?
-Original Message-
From: clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org debian-security@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, May
Besides not passing those arguments to printf( ), what C/C++
function(s) I should take extra care while using?
All of them.
No, seriously.
Paul Haesler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 74142604
We are the Steely-Pips and we have no fear, no
spats in our vats, no rules, no schools
I would like to give a user the ability to chown files in certain
directories to other users ownership.
I have configured sudo to limit the users and files that can be specified
for this operation, but there is still one loophole that bugs me:
If the user were to make a hard link to a file I
.
And even OpenBSD don't audit every single line of code in every
package - they audit every critical software component. That
word critical wouldn't be there if it didn't mean something.
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those common commands builtin and does
not depend on the files being in the jail.
However, how would you use ls which resides in /bin/ls, if you are
jailed into /home/username ?? As I see it, it cannot be done (though it
would be nice)
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stream tcp nowait mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs
And let me just say that exim rocks.
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.
Apart from a few applications I just have to use I find its interface slows me
down. I'll qualify that by saying that I am definately a techy user. Still
this is getting OT for this list - perhaps move onto user?!
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exim
[marge /usr/sbin]# chmod 2755 exim
[marge /usr/sbin]# ls -l exim
-rwxr-sr-x1 root mail 430740 Jun 9 07:21 exim
[marge /usr/sbin]# exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin] mail paul
Subject: Test
Does this work?
.
Cc:
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still be able to login (the technical procedure will be
slighly different depending on how the user/password machine/database
works).
Or am I getting something wrong?
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[1]
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=150284repeatmerged=yes
[2] http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/5033/info/
[3]
http://downloads.securityfocus.com/vulnerabilities/exploits/apache-scalp.c
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an ip that is
already denied via tcp_wrapper support in ssh, will it still be able to
exploit OpenSSH 3.3?
I'm not on the list, so cc me please.
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of the
trusted ips??
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Lovely situation, isn't it?
Doesn't OpenBSD have a full-disclosure policy anyway?
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Neutrons are wormholes. And if Blanca's dead
clone was right, the Transmuters had all the
degrees
to mind.
Or just use an unused IP
He was talking about spoofing ips that I am allowing access for in my
firewall. All the ips I'm allowing are for existing machines, so an
unused IP would be one that is not allowed through the firewall already.
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The web page for the DSA-136 advisory at
http://www.debian.org/security/2002/dsa-136 says Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
(potato) above the list of fixed packages for Woody. Somebody might
want to fix that.
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safety
this far without such a
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Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 11:58:59AM +0200, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
Paul Hampson wrote:
You mean like maybe assigning different questions different priorities,
and letting the user choose the priority which a question needs to have
before it is asked, with some default assumed otherwise?
Excellent
it's MD5 recorded. Although it
would only affect people who built the package anyway.
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continue to try and
backport the woody packages to my potato machines myself?
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On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 01:33 PM, Ted Deppner wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:19:52PM -0500, Paul Baker wrote:
Is there an ETA yet on potato packages, or should I continue to try and
backport the woody packages to my potato machines myself?
Just as an encouragement, the upgrade
later (perhaps when sarge is released).
Also it expects you to be installing software that has 'make install'
etc. Which our software doesn't necessarily have either. So as part of
turning everything into debian packages, they will also get nice shiny
Makefiles.
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On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 07:12:54AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Paul Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:17:10 +1000
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:09:28AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems like you could just have
that need to be restarted just
to be safe? I'd rather not have to type in the SSL passphrase for
apache+mod_ssl if I don't have to.
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from 130.89.175.34: icmp_seq=0 ttl=235 time=478.3 ms
64 bytes from 130.89.175.34: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=488.2 ms
--- security.debian.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 478.3/483.2/488.2 ms
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Yep - back up now. Must have hit it at a bad time. :)
It's working from Vietnam...
May be some filter in your network?
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clone was right, the Transmuters had all the
degrees
option. (If you're using
the cgi version, then this might not work... Then of course you
can use suexec or SetEnv PHPRC to do it... See bug #161627)
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:35:53PM +0100, Ralf Dreibrodt wrote:
Paul Hampson wrote:
You can effectively chroot php files with:
php_admin_value open_basedir /directory/where/files/are
in the Apache virtual host config. Then:
a) php4 won't let files outside that directory be accessed
?
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Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did,
we'd be running around in darkened rooms, popping pills
|
It seems that it should `grep LISTEN` as well.
Comments?
I would guess that only TCP sockets get 'LISTEN' but I don't
know the output of lsof to confirm this.
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the security system,
instead of the _data_ used to secure it. It's a bad idea because
_processes and functionality_ is a much smaller search domain than
_data_.
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The Boss
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Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did,
we'd be running around in darkened rooms, popping pills
be as up to
date as security.debian.org is.
Paul
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will never get to know it.
Paul
just guessing that being owned by root is the kicker in this instance. Either that, or I'm screwed ;)
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for it. Someone who actually uses that support would
be better to complete that answer, though.
Will the information superhighway have any rest stops?
Doesn't look like it. Can you make due with rolling down the
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) for user matches session opened for user
and session closed for user which is what is needed here. session
(opened)|(closed) for user matches session opened and closed for
user which does not make much sense in this context.
Paul
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On 14 Apr 2004 20:35:19 GMT Paul Hink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try this one:
CRON\[.*\]:( )?\(pam_unix\) session (opened)|(closed) for user
(root)|(mail)
[...]
session (opened|closed) for user matches
interface by default). I've always wondered about
portmap in debian myself - I presume it's to do with NFS. Perhaps
it has to be part of the base system to support network installs.
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my main firewall at home to a beefy Celeron
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*why*, it is just that they don't like it.
Couldn't agree more.
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I mustn't be understanding you here. Isn't the very definition of
RELATED/ESTABLISHED that the packet is part of an established connection
to a service actually used?
RELATED and ESTABLISHED are two
that
makes security sense to other firewall users.
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manually editing the
whole thing).
Someone please correct me if i'm missing something that might overcome
these difficulties - they've been driving me to despair for quite some
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Debian supports Safe Mode or not, I would
very much appreciate a clear, official statement concerning this issue,
e.g. by publishing the text Florian suggested in his first mail on this
topic somewhere on Debian's website.
Paul
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What I don't want to
see is this discussion drag on eternally on
woe-is-me-they-wont-play-like-i-like-i-hate-change fashion,
It's too late for that... ;-)
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enoch:/root # apt-get install
Paul Gear wrote:
(This turned into a saga - so here's the executive summary: let's let
the security team do their job and find us a secure version. Talk about
removing Firefox and/or definitely ruling out upgrading to a newer
version is unhelpful in solving the problem.)
And, of course, i
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