Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 09:35:25 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 04/12/2015 01:33 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:> OK, thank you, I will > definitely consider Perl also, as I already know > > a little and have a few books on it. > > I'd advise learning one language well, where "well" includes security

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > > > >>And lastly, just out of interest, I don't recall your saying >> whether you have tried installing and running D8 yet. >> >> > > Apart from not having GNOME Classic, I note that Debian 8, as with > Debian 7, appears to

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Alexis
bri...@aracnet.com writes: the most inconvenient thing about not using gnome is not having a way to handle USS mass storage devices. Perhaps pmount or autofs might be of use ? Alexis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread briand
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window > manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The > same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >And lastly, just out of interest, I don't recall your saying > whether you have tried installing and running D8 yet. > > Apart from not having GNOME Classic, I note that Debian 8, as with Debian 7, appears to be missing iceape. I do not remember how, but, f

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 09/04/2015, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> Bret Busby writes: >> > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI >> > Device 9852 >> >> Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. >> > > > " > # xrandr > xrandr:

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2015 10:22:23 Bret Busby wrote: >> Does Debian 7 work with external monitors? > > Yes. Though I have found that the external monitor needs to be there, and > on, > before I boot up, in order for it to be seen. (Acer Aspire One) > > Lisi >

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2015 05:38:27 Bret Busby wrote: >> On my Debian 6 desktop >> computer, from the menu's, is >> System -> Preferences -> Monitors >> which has the option "Detect monitors". > > This is a matter of desktop environment choice, not distro version ch

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Me again, sorry. My question about the hardware failure was more out > of curiosity than anything else, because it's unusual for software > problems to break hardware (though quite possible). On to software... > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> S

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> As I have previously stated, elsewhere, I have not been able to get a >> screensaver and screenlock, to properly run, on Debian 7; the only >> thing that I have found, so far, is the trojan horse that is part of >>

Re: apt stuck at "Reading database"

2015-04-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:50:40AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > In that situation, my first course of action would be to hide anything > but the essential sources.list contents of, basically, something like > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 > 201306

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Me again, sorry. My question about the hardware failure was more out of curiosity than anything else, because it's unusual for software problems to break hardware (though quite possible). On to software... Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > So, I have found xfce, on Debian 7, to be too d

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): > On 12/04/15 17:34, David Wright wrote: > >Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): > > > >>IMHO, the issues with perl and python is that you will have to > >>understand Object Orientated Programming (OOP) to get the most out > >>of them, especi

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all. > > According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be > the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal > experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed > gnome-core just to have the min

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Glenn English wrote: My Pentium laptop gets the job done, eventually, but the more modern Xeon box downstairs is much easier to live with... A Xeon home machine? Please tell us more about it. Details too. (I am thinking in terms of the same thing, sort of, i.e. refur

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 12/04/15 17:34, David Wright wrote: Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): IMHO, the issues with perl and python is that you will have to understand Object Orientated Programming (OOP) to get the most out of them, especially for GUI development. This was one of the reasons I drew a

Re: VLANs won't persist

2015-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 11 April 2015 04:50:12 M7 wrote: > i can manually bring it up using vconfig add eth0 4 and have access. Upon > reboot, ifconfig only shows me lo interface. > > Any help would be appreciated! Have you got NetworkManager running? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > As I have previously stated, elsewhere, I have not been able to get a > screensaver and screenlock, to properly run, on Debian 7; the only > thing that I have found, so far, is the trojan horse that is part of > the xfce interface, and, on a previous occ

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/12/2015 02:19 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal gno

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Seeker
On 4/12/2015 11:19 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal gn

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Joe
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:19:35 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all. > > According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be > the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal > experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed > gnome-core just

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Glenn English
On Apr 12, 2015, at 10:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: > There now are a number of university-level lectures and/or courses available > online for free. For example, SICP 1 e.: > > http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-001-structure-and-interpretation-of-co

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): > According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very > minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal

Re: Re: Debian Jessie, gnome-panel no menu.

2015-04-12 Thread nutrinfnon
Thank you. I understood as follows: The applets disappears in gnome3 (no alt-right_mouse_button menu). Gnome3 uses extensions instead of applets. Extensions can be installed trought pacakge or browser (enabling plugins) There are similar extensions to the old applets. The Jessie package gnome

Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal gnome installation. Then I noticed that totem, the

Re: apt stuck at "Reading database"

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Luis Finotti (luis.fino...@gmail.com): > I've been trying to fix this problem, but have not found a solution > yet. (I've also asked at the aptosid list without success.) > > Before

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 04/11/2015 11:43 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: I want to thank everyone for their answers in this thread, you have all been very helpful. YW. On 04/11/2015 11:43 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing secure

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): > On 12/04/15 09:33, Petter Adsen wrote: > >On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > >>On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > >>>Another thing - I have been thinking about also learning Python, for > >>>instance for interacting with GTK,

Re: Installing Debian Jessie on an ACER Aspire V13 V3-371-337L

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jean-Marc (jean-m...@6jf.be): > Two words to give the status of the Debian Jessie installation on my brand > new Acer Aspire v13 v3. > Everything works like a charm (webcam, mic, trackpad, wifi using non-free > firmware, network). That's great to hear. But please do tell us which way you

Ibus/Anthy - not able to change input method

2015-04-12 Thread Francesco Ariis
Since a couple of days I have a problem with ibus (and anthy): I am not able to switch input methods; if I press the shortcut keys nothing happens, even though in the "Preferences" panel of Ibus "Anthy-Japanese" is present. I killed the daemon and reinvoked it with `ibus-daemon -v` to check what w

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 12/04/15 09:33, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing secure programs? I would guess that would be a good thing to

Re: Re: Having Trouble installing Updates

2015-04-12 Thread Frank Fricke
Thanx! Added your recommended lines to sources.list, called 'apt update' and everything worked fine except that evolution won't start after the update. Well I'll sort that out. ftp.de has always been allright for Wheezy but somehow didn't seem to be the best choice for Jessie. Cheeree-o Frank

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - > > are there any good books on writing secure programs? I would guess > > that would be a good thing to think about from the start, as

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are > there any good books on writing secure programs? I would guess that > would be a good thing to think about from the start, as to learn good > practices? > I believe that this is wh