Re: debian 8

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:26:12 -0400 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday 13 April 2015 16:56:05 Celejar wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:00:15 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:04:28 -0400 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Is there not

Re: Excluding a directory from tar

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:36:33 -0500 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Petter Adsen (pet...@synth.no): On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:12:51 -0500 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Have fun reading man find, though! petter@monster:~$ man tar | wc -l 540

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:41:03 +0200 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote: On 2015-04-13 14:45:25 +0200, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2015-04-13 14:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net: The problem is that this operation is (always?) very slow: something like 100 seconds (1 minute and

Re: Jessie: No VGA signal after gdm3 login

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:42:03 -0400 Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote: Just returned from vacation, booted up. After gdm3 login screen goes blank, then No VGA Signal Installed xdm. Same result Ran apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade Repeated xdm login. Same result Before

Re: Fw: Jessie= stable date?

2015-04-14 Thread mudongliang
On Mon, 2015-04-13 at 22:01 +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: Sorry for not posting this to the list in the first place :( I just sent it again for the record. Linux-Fan Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:19:31 +0200 From: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de To: Gene Heskett

no bluetooth audio in jessie

2015-04-14 Thread Juha Heinanen
A few days ago, I upgraded my laptop from wheezy to jessie. After that I noticed that audio to my bluetooth speaker didn't work anymore. I had been using alsa audio and had a bluetooth type entry in my .asoundrc for my speaker. After a bit of digging it turned out that I had lost bluetooth

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:58:20AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:41:03 +0200 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote: On 2015-04-13 14:45:25 +0200, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2015-04-13 14:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net: The problem is that this

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:36:44 -0500 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Petter Adsen (pet...@synth.no): On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:21:49 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see as I didn't have OS design in mind. Something like: Exit codes and their value in

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread August Karlstrom
On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the reader in. Unmount by unplugging reader with the card

Add a 3rd drive to a existing raid1 (not as spare)

2015-04-14 Thread basti
Hello I want to add a 3rd drive to a raid 1 array (for disaster backup, the drive will be connectet once a week). I dry: mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sde1 when I fail the drive there is a message FailSpare event detected on md device /dev/md/1, component device /dev/sde1 How can I add the 3rd

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:43:53 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: snip My cat is walking on my keyboard now, demanding attention. Best not to ignore him any longer. :) Can he program? I'm not sure, but I take care to lock

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:12:28 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:58:20AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:41:03 +0200 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote: On 2015-04-13 14:45:25 +0200, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2015-04-13 14:39

Re: apt stuck at Reading database

2015-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:45AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: IIRC apt-listbugs or apt-listchanges (or both) don't work without the deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list. Works fine for me. Did you *actually* try it? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:22:15AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:12:28 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:58:20AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:41:03 +0200 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/04/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer laptop computer with an AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work.

Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-14 Thread BERTRAND Joël
maderios a écrit : On 04/13/2015 08:23 PM, Grégory Reinbold wrote: Welcome on FreeBSD! Grégory Reinbold Ouai... Je vais être dur. J'ai installé et utilisé Freebsd l'année dernière, je n'ai pas du tout été convaincu. Matériel mal supporté, des problèmes d'Irq, des bugs, ma machine transformée

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 03:35:50 Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:36:44 -0500 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Petter Adsen (pet...@synth.no): On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:21:49 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see as I didn't have OS design

[HS] Typographie [Re: Jessie]

2015-04-14 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mardi 14 avril 2015, 13:41:33 Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, ’jour, Le lundi 13 avril 2015 à 20:07, Grégory Reinbold a écrit : Si tu es perdu, essaye MATE qui se rapproche fortement de Gnome2 et fait un très gros effort pour se débarrasser des dépendances intrusives du grand

Re: Add a 3rd drive to a existing raid1 (not as spare)

2015-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:42:22AM +0200, basti wrote: Hello I want to add a 3rd drive to a raid 1 array (for disaster backup, the drive will be connectet once a week). I dry: mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sde1 when I fail the drive there is a message FailSpare event detected on md

Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux = Recherches dans les archives de la liste :

2015-04-14 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mardi 14 avril 2015, 11:55:25 Philippe Gras a écrit : […] Chercher sur le Net, je sais (très bien) faire. Par contre j'aimerais savoir comment vous faites pour rechercher dans les archives de la liste, parce que je n'ai pas trouvé comment m'y prendre. […] Deux phrases somme toute

Re: debian 8

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 02:18:03 Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:26:12 -0400 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday 13 April 2015 16:56:05 Celejar wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:00:15 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:04:28 -0400

Re: Jessie

2015-04-14 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le lundi 13 avril 2015 à 20:07, Grégory Reinbold a écrit : Si tu es perdu, essaye MATE qui se rapproche fortement de Gnome2 et fait un très gros effort pour se débarrasser des dépendances intrusives du grand GNOME (Grand GNOME ?) (oui GNOME en maj, c'est une TM m'a t-on rappelé). Ce

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 04:22, Petter Adsen wrote: But if you create new files in that directory after deleting them, I expect the inodes get reallocated? They do, but a directory does not store inodes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode For ext4:

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Rusi Mody
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 5:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: Specifically for linux system-level stuff, python will give you 80-90% of the C level stuff at ⅕ the pain. eg for TCP/IP networking look at

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Rusi Mody
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 5:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: Beyond that what you should take up really depends on what calls you: - python is nice if its scripts Well, on a practical level I need something that can be

Re: Le fichier .profile n'est pas exécuté

2015-04-14 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mardi 14 avril 2015, 13:11:27 Alain Rpnpif a écrit : […] Parce que je l'ai modifié avec un drapeau et ce n'est pas exécuté. De plus mon $HOME/bin n'est pas mis dans le PATH. Ok. […] Mon dm : lightdm qui lance Xfce. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636108 À la fin :

Re: Add a 3rd drive to a existing raid1 (not as spare)

2015-04-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:42:22AM +0200, basti wrote: Hello I want to add a 3rd drive to a raid 1 array (for disaster backup, the drive will be connectet once a week). I dry: mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sde1 when I fail the drive there is a message FailSpare event detected on md device

bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-14 Thread maderios
On 04/14/2015 11:19 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: maderios a écrit : On 04/13/2015 08:23 PM, Grégory Reinbold wrote: Welcome on FreeBSD! Grégory Reinbold Ouai... Je vais être dur. J'ai installé et utilisé Freebsd l'année dernière, je n'ai pas du tout été convaincu. Matériel mal supporté, des

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
As this is starting to take the tone of a religious argument ( :-) let me say that while you may not need to know all of the dark corners of C, you will want to know its semantics and here is why. Inevitably you will have to need to use system calls and when you look them up in the manual pages

Re: Add a 3rd drive to a existing raid1 (not as spare)

2015-04-14 Thread basti
thanks but # mdadm --add /dev/md1 --raid-devices=3 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sde1 mdadm:option --raid-devices not valid in manage mode # mdadm --add /dev/md1 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sde1 mdadm:option --spare-devices not valid in manage mode # mdadm --grow /dev/md1 --raid-devices=3

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015, at 19:28, Bob Proulx wrote: Without dir_index an ext filesystem with large directories is slow due to the linear nature of directories. But with dir_index it should be using a B-tree data structure and should be much faster. This can be turned off for a migration if it

Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux = Recherches dans les archives de la liste :

2015-04-14 Thread Philippe Gras
Le 14 avr. 15 à 11:40, maderios a écrit : On 04/13/2015 08:38 PM, Philippe Gras wrote: Comment faites-vous pour effectuer des recherches dans les archives de la liste ? Exemples https://wiki.debian.org/fr/SynapticsTouchpad https://linuxfr.org/users/octane/journaux/linux-c-est-deja-demain-

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 02:58:20 Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:41:03 +0200 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote: On 2015-04-13 14:45:25 +0200, Loïc Grenié wrote: 2015-04-13 14:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net: The problem is that this operation is

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Rusi Mody
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:36:44 -0500 David Wright wrote: Quoting Petter Adsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:21:49 +0300 Reco wrote: Let's see as I didn't have OS design in mind. Something like: Exit codes

Re: [SOLVED] Trailing ms at the end of every line when viewing man pages

2015-04-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:51:05 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: Here's how I fixed it, or rather, how I worked around it. ... For those of you who are interested, I wrote up what I learned about serial terminals and serial consoles and put it in my lilo web page at

Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-14 Thread BERTRAND Joël
maderios a écrit : On 04/14/2015 12:24 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: Nexenta apporte pas mal de chose. Y compris zfs nativement. C'est même à mon avis bien plus utile que openwrt. Nexenta sur un routeur? Ces deux systèmes n'ont pas le même usage. PS: merci de répondre sur liste et non

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote: That I can also accept. I see that a lot of people advice me on going with something other than C, and I can understand that there are good

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-14 08:47:15 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Also, some of the Unix best-practices do address this kind of filesystem issue. One such best-practice is that you don't remove just the files in ephemeral directories: you either use an ephemeral filesystem (tmpfs) in the first

Re: Le fichier .profile n'est pas exécuté

2015-04-14 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 14 avril 2015, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636108 À la fin : Added tag(s) fixed-upstream. Request was from bts- link-upstr...@lists.alioth.debian.org to cont...@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 23 Mar 2015 16:30:25 GMT) [...] Solution

Re: Duda con Cron y Apticron

2015-04-14 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:42:37 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió: Estimados, tengo una duda con una configuración de Cron referida a Apticron. Mi sistema es Debian Wheezy y la configuración que estoy usando actualmente es la siguiente: Archivo /etc/cron.d/apticron: 24 * * * * root if test -x

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-14 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 08:13:43PM -0300, Alessandro Bandeira Duarte wrote: Nesse mesmo hardware, tenho debian 8 instalado, só com main habilitado e linux-libre [...] ## #Linux-libre ## deb

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 14 april 2015 18:02 skrev ro...@steneteg.org: Att skippa swap helt är ju sällan en bra idé, om minnet skulle börja ta slut så har ju OS:et inget val än att börja döda processer för att frigöra minne. Ändå läser man lite överallt, att man kan skippa swappen helt och hållet. Dock behöver

Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux = Recherches dans les archives de la liste :

2015-04-14 Thread André
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 11:40:19 maderios wrote: J'ai l'impression que l'on s'égare... Ce qui est clair, c'est que la grande majorité des demandes sur cette liste (et la liste anglaise, d'ailleurs) émane de gens qui n'ont pas fait l'effort de chercher sur le Net. Dans 90% des cas, la solution

Sony vaio Linux

2015-04-14 Thread Sandro
Aproveitando a questão do computador compatível com Linux, alguém conseguiu colocar dualboot rwindows + Linux em Sony vaio?

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread jan
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:35:12 +0200 Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com wrote: Har en liten fundering när det gäller hur mycket/lite ram minne man måste ha, för att kunna skippa en Swap partition helt ? Såg på en wik sidai, att bara man har minnst 2 GB minne, så kan man skippa swap helt och

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 14 april 2015 18:08 skrev Mateusz Mojsiejuk mate...@fishface.se: Jag tolkar .. excess of 2 Gig.. som ett överskott av 2 gig ram. Inte att hela maskinen skulle ha bara två gig ram. Det var just därför jag reagerade. Sen beror det på användningsområde. På min laptop brukar jag ha 20- 50

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-14 Thread Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues
a intel libera livre, mas, tem menos desempenho que o driver proprietário. Em 14 de abril de 2015 14:56, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: falei com o chat da dell e ele me passou uma configuração. mas na placa de vídeo tem assim: Placa de vídeo Intel® HD Graphics Integrada

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Petter Adsen wrote: Can someone please enlighten me as to why the entry for this directory is so large, even though it is empty? Since it's apparently obvious to everyone else, I would very much like to know :) In the old days directories were simply an array of fixed sized integers and fixed

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 13:11, Bob Proulx wrote: Oh! I was unaware of the e2fsck -D option. Good deal! I didn't recall it existed either, or I'd have mentioned it much earlier in the thread... but I noticed it in the manpage while doing some research due to my participation on this thread.

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread jan
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:22:35 +0200 Mateusz Mojsiejuk mate...@fishface.se wrote: Swap är också minne och kan precis som ram ta slut. Så slutresultatet blir precis samma sak. Den enda skillnaden är att det sker senare om du har swap utöver dina 16 gig ram. Har du dock 16 gig ram och minnet

Re: Duda con Cron y Apticron

2015-04-14 Thread Mauro Antivero
El 14/04/15 a las 13:08, Camaleón escibió: El Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:50:50 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió: El 14/04/15 a las 10:44, Camaleón escibió: (...) Si no interpreto mal, esto haría que Apticron corra todas las horas, todos los días, en el minuto 24 (lo veo innecesario que corra tan

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-14 Thread Fred Maranhão
falei com o chat da dell e ele me passou uma configuração. mas na placa de vídeo tem assim: Placa de vídeo Intel® HD Graphics Integrada isto funciona sem driver proprietário? tá faltando o modelo? ou pelo fato de ser integrada não tem modelo mesmo? Em 13 de abril de 2015 14:48, fabianne

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Doug
On 04/14/2015 05:15 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:22:15AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: /snip/ 2015-04-13 14:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net: The problem is that this operation is (always?) very slow: something like 100 seconds (1 minute and 40 seconds). It

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-14 11:04:06 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 10:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Without dir_index an ext filesystem with large directories is slow due to the linear nature of directories. But with dir_index it should be using a B-tree data

Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-14 Thread maderios
On 04/14/2015 01:25 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: maderios a écrit : On 04/14/2015 12:24 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: Nexenta apporte pas mal de chose. Y compris zfs nativement. C'est même à mon avis bien plus utile que openwrt. Nexenta sur un routeur? Ces deux systèmes n'ont pas le même usage. PS:

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
Nu fick jag en idé till semi-dynamisk swap. En swapfil behöver inte vara en partition, utan kan vara en fil i filsystemet (om än med lite mer overhead pga fs-indirection). Man skulle därför kunna ha en daemon som övervakar ledigt fysiskt RAM, och när det återstår säg 10% så skapas en

Re: Sharing LVM storage

2015-04-14 Thread Thomas Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I already did that with clvm and OpenAIS. Regards, Le 14/04/2015 16:01, Petter Adsen a écrit : I'm using LVM as storage for virtual machines, and would like to share a PV between two machines with iSCSI to be able to migrate the VM's.

FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?

2015-04-14 Thread Richard Owlett
I just spent an instructive morning reading about: * inodes * Ext2 vs Ext3 vs Ext4 * Sudo vs Su {unfortunately most was heavily Ubuntu oriented not Debian specific} Each of those were prompted by by reading various threads in this group and some actual problems I've run into. FAQ's

Re: Sony vaio Linux

2015-04-14 Thread Dimas Petreca
tem como colocar, mais toda vez você terá que entrar na BIOS e desativar o UEFI para logar no linux e vice-versa p entrar no rwindows. Em 14 de abril de 2015 10:24, Sandro bmsan...@gmail.com escreveu: Aproveitando a questão do computador compatível com Linux, alguém conseguiu colocar dualboot

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS that is to be

Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Har en liten fundering när det gäller hur mycket/lite ram minne man måste ha, för att kunna skippa en Swap partition helt ? Såg på en wik sidai, att bara man har minnst 2 GB minne, så kan man skippa swap helt och hållet. Men det tycker jag låter väldigt lite ? Most modern desktops with an excess

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread Mateusz Mojsiejuk
Jag tolkar .. excess of 2 Gig.. som ett överskott av 2 gig ram. Inte att hela maskinen skulle ha bara två gig ram. Sen beror det på användningsområde. På min laptop brukar jag ha 20- 50 tabbar. Kan tänka mig att en maskin med två gig ram utan swap och en tung window manager inte skulle tycka

Re: Duda con Cron y Apticron

2015-04-14 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:50:50 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió: El 14/04/15 a las 10:44, Camaleón escibió: (...) Si no interpreto mal, esto haría que Apticron corra todas las horas, todos los días, en el minuto 24 (lo veo innecesario que corra tan seguido, pero por ahora dejémoslo así). Pero

Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?

2015-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Jessie: No VGA signal after gdm3 login

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:50:45 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:42:03 -0400 Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote: Just returned from vacation, booted up. After gdm3 login screen goes blank, then No VGA Signal Installed xdm. Same result Ran

Re: Jessie

2015-04-14 Thread Yannick VOYEAUD
Le 14/04/2015 13:41, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, Le lundi 13 avril 2015 à 20:07, Grégory Reinbold a écrit : Si tu es perdu, essaye MATE qui se rapproche fortement de Gnome2 et fait un très gros effort pour se débarrasser des dépendances intrusives du grand GNOME (Grand GNOME ?) (oui

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Legalidade do Windows XP

2015-04-14 Thread Sinval Júnior
2X Ao encaminhar esta mensagem, por favor: 1 - Apague meu endereço eletrônico; 2 - Encaminhe como Cópia Oculta (Cco ou BCc) aos seus destinatários. Dificulte assim a disseminação de vírus, spams e banners. #=+ #!/usr/bin/env python

Re: Sharing LVM storage

2015-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:01:02PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: I'm using LVM as storage for virtual machines, and would like to share a PV between two machines with iSCSI to be able to migrate the VM's. I did the thing some time ago. It worked, although I used ietd and not today's tgtd.

Re: Swap ?

2015-04-14 Thread roger
Att skippa swap helt är ju sällan en bra idé, om minnet skulle börja ta slut så har ju OS:et inget val än att börja döda processer för att frigöra minne. Dock behöver man ju inte gå på den gamla traditionen av att ha 1.5 * RAMet i swap såvida man inte har speciella behov för det. Och som

Re: Duda con Cron y Apticron

2015-04-14 Thread Mauro Antivero
El 14/04/15 a las 10:44, Camaleón escibió: El Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:42:37 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió: Estimados, tengo una duda con una configuración de Cron referida a Apticron. Mi sistema es Debian Wheezy y la configuración que estoy usando actualmente es la siguiente: Archivo

Re: Book questions

2015-04-14 Thread David Christensen
On 04/14/2015 12:35 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: I see that a lot of people advice me on going with something other than C, and I can understand that there are good reasons for this advice. While I still want to learn C at some point, I'm beginning to think that it might be wise to consider getting a

Re: Gnome Shell Dernière version

2015-04-14 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 14 avril 2015 à 13:29, Hodonou SOUNTON a écrit : Je souhaite installer Gnome-Shell 3.14 sans passer à Jessie. Moult Googlelisations ne m'ont pas permis de trouver la solution. Alors je tourne vers LA DEBIAN COMMUNITY. Si la version dans stable ne te convient pas et que tu ne veux pas

Re: Gnome Shell Dernière version

2015-04-14 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 14 avril 2015 à 16:20, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Si la version dans stable ne te convient pas et que tu ne veux pas passer à testing, alors ne reste qu'à compiler depuis les sources, mais : - c'est long et complexe, - à toi de surveiller l'arrivée des correctifs (notamment de

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list entry may mislead you on the page. … You could do better

Re: Sony vaio Linux

2015-04-14 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
Com Legacy e boot seguro desabilitado ou com UEFI e boot (seguro) restrito? A versão 8 do proprietário não sei nem se tem como colocar dual-boot com UEFI e boot restrito. Uma coisa que me nego a aprender fazer. Provavelmente sua pergunta é sobre um Sony Vaio recente, instalei em um, com legacy e

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/sda5 But existing directories are not converted. Only new directories are Do a forced e2fsck run on the filesystem, and it should add the indexes to all directories that lack it. It can also change the

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-14 13:26:16 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Yeah, that's a bad habit to have as it slows down way too many utilities (lots of stuff benefit for extremely lightweight ultra-fast tmpfs in /tmp and $TMPDIR, from sort to gcc without -pipe), but it is indeed widespread. Can't

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-14 23:01:19 -, Cam Hutchison wrote: I don't think dir_index has anything to do with it. An index speeds up lookups. You are not doing lookups; you are traversing the entire data structure. A B-tree data structure can take longer to traverse than a contiguous array data structure

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-14 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 14 de abril de 2015 17:46, Gabriel Fedel lis...@fedel.net.br escreveu: No thinkpad que eu uso (T430), só precisei de driver proprietário para a placa wireless Mas estou vendo de troca-la, por essa : https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-half-height-mini-pcie-card e a

Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?

2015-04-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is

wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings drive guru's; I have a 3 drive hot swap cage in my machine for a couple years now, and no it is NOT setup as a raid of any kind. It has had a triplet of 1T seagate drives in it since installing it. My main boot drive had a 10.04-4 LTS Ubuntu install on it, but the drive went read

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-14 Thread David Christensen
On 04/14/2015 07:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a 3 drive hot swap cage ... wheezy on what is now /dev/sda. ... Tonight I cut the blisterpack off the first of the 2Tb drives and slid it into slot 2. ... Wheezy, with SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux kernel running cannot connect to

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it.

Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 21:52:16 Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-14 10:55:12 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Other file systems such as xfs designed for large files and large numbers of files DO shrink when files are removed. That is one of the reasons why xfs is recommended for industrial strength use. It was designed to handle those kinds of

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/14/2015 at 12:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Petter Adsen wrote: Can someone please enlighten me as to why the entry for this directory is so large, even though it is empty? Since it's apparently obvious to everyone else, I would very much like to know :) In the old days directories

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 23:27:36 David Christensen wrote: On 04/14/2015 07:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a 3 drive hot swap cage ... wheezy on what is now /dev/sda. ... Tonight I cut the blisterpack off the first of the 2Tb drives and slid it into slot 2. ... Wheezy, with SMP

Re: gnome-settings-daemon, dbus use about %80 of CPU

2015-04-14 Thread Mikael Flood
Hello, Try removing user file under ~/.config/dconf rm ~/.config/dconf/user This will revert your desktop to a factory default state (all shortcuts and desktop changes will be reverted). Let me know if this helps. On 13 April 2015 at 17:18, claude juif claude.j...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/04/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. The best thing would be to look

Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !

2015-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-09 15:22:15 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 09/04/15 at 12:46 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-08 20:35:06 +0200, maderios wrote: On 04/08/2015 05:50 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-07 18:59:29 +0200, maderios wrote: Systemd ne sera jamais fini mais pour le

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Reco
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 03:15:02PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-14 12:15:03 +0300, Reco wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:22:15AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:12:28 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:58:20AM +0200,

Re: Saber cuantas PC están conectadas al DHCP

2015-04-14 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:16:36 -0430, Nicolas escribió: Buenas, (ese html...) He estado investigando como saber cuantas PC están conectadas a mi servidor de DHCP y no conseguí nada (sera porque busque español, soy malo con el ingles :) )

Sharing LVM storage

2015-04-14 Thread Petter Adsen
I'm using LVM as storage for virtual machines, and would like to share a PV between two machines with iSCSI to be able to migrate the VM's. Wikipedia says this: The LVM will also work in a shared-storage cluster (where disks holding the PVs are shared between multiple host computers), but

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 10:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Without dir_index an ext filesystem with large directories is slow due to the linear nature of directories. But with dir_index it should be using a B-tree data structure and should be much faster. So, why is it slow? What kernel?

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-14 Thread Adriano Rafael Gomes
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:24:54AM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: A título de informação, desde o wheezy os blobs binários estão em um pacote separado no non-free, e se você não instala esse pacote o resultado final é equivalente ao linux-libre. Já desde o squeeze:

Re: Subject: network-console installation and ssh keys

2015-04-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-14, David Wright da...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: I like the new Network Console option in the installer. However, when I reinstall Debian onto a machine called, say, desk select the necessary options, type in the password for the installer session, and then sit back with a machine

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (j...@debian.org): On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list entry may

Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?

2015-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I

Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !

2015-04-14 Thread maderios
On 04/14/2015 03:57 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Pas encore testé systemd (vu que mes deux vieilles machines vont bientôt être remplacées), mais d'après ce que j'ai lu, il y a le verbose qui n'est pas implémenté. Qu'appeles-tu le verbose ? (quelles infos veux-tu ?) Des messages sur ce qui est

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