Re: Sound card question

On 9/30/2015 10:39 AM, Doug wrote: On 09/30/2015 09:55 AM, Danny wrote: Hi guys, I have a Sigmatel STAC9227 on-board sound card. Everything works fine as it should. It has the normal Mic , Ext.Speaker and Line-Out jacks. Currently the Mic and Ext.Speaker plugs are permanently occupied vi

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On 9/30/2015 1:51 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:57:13PM -0700, Seeker wrote: If you think of non-free in terms of Debian non-free, then non-free and proprietary can be different things. That gets into a whole different hornets nest. Evaluate here, please. I honestl

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

+1. But as a part of their job they might be required to be qualified enough to manage these systems. Eliezer On 30/09/2015 08:45, Heracles wrote: Can we keep religious wars off the list. They fill up the inbox and achieve nothing. Sysadmins administer whatever they are asked to administe

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

2015/10/01 2:24 "Doug" : > > > > On 09/30/2015 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > /snip/ > >> >> The letter of the law my dear Shylock, the letter. >> >> But in spirit, Open Source and Free Software couldn't be more different. >> The one is about a more efficient software production model, the o

Re: Making udev forget ?

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Is there a way to make udev "forget" all the removable storage peripherals it has "seen" ? Cheers, Ron. Look for files in /etc/udev/rules.d containing the word "persistent" - in the case of network devices, you just need to remove the network lines from the

Making udev forget ?

Is there a way to make udev "forget" all the removable storage peripherals it has "seen" ? Cheers, Ron. -- Love built on beauty Soon as beauty dies. --John Donne

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On 9/30/15, Glenn English wrote: > > I was taught (a while back, I'll admit) that the way to use an acronym is to > spell it out with the acronym's letters in upper case, and with the acronym > in parentheses right behind it, the first time it's used, then use whichever > you like after that. > >

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:02:29PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 21:18 +0200, Václav Ovsík wrote: > > After reboot there is some delay time (several seconds), that when > > USB > > keyboard or mouse is idle longer than this delay it froze. > > Next keystroke after this delay

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 September 2015 18:08:04 Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: UUOR >>> >>> http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact >> >> 0 matches -- very helpful :) > > I was comm

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 21:18 +0200, Václav Ovsík wrote: > After reboot there is some delay time (several seconds), that when > USB > keyboard or mouse is idle longer than this delay it froze. > Next keystroke after this delay is lost, but this lost keystroke > wakes > keyboard up and next keystrokes

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 18:23:21 Doug wrote: > On 09/30/2015 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > /snip/ > > > The letter of the law my dear Shylock, the letter. > > > > But in spirit, Open Source and Free Software couldn't be more different. > > The one is about a more efficient software p

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 18:08:04 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> UUOR > > > > http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact > > 0 matches -- very helpful :) I was commenting, possibly too subtly, on this list's habit of using i

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 01:23:21PM -0400, Doug wrote: > snip... > * The American Heritage Dictionary shows "free" first in regard to > slavery, or arrest, etc. It goes on to discuss politics and free vs. > dictatorship. It eventually gets to "costing nothing; gratuitous: > _

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

Hi, On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > "Alfonso" == Alfonso García writes: > > Alfonso> Hi, I experience a mouse and keyboard strange behavior since > debian 7 to 8 > Alfonso> update. Sometimes, when X windows system started, the USB mouse > doesn't w

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

Le nonidi 9 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Doug a écrit : > Therefore, the example given above is incorrect: all free software is NOT > open source: Firefox and Thunderbird are prime examples of free software > which is not open source that probably most users of Linux are using today. > They[re _free_ be

Re: Sound card question

On 09/30/2015 09:55 AM, Danny wrote: Hi guys, I have a Sigmatel STAC9227 on-board sound card. Everything works fine as it should. It has the normal Mic , Ext.Speaker and Line-Out jacks. Currently the Mic and Ext.Speaker plugs are permanently occupied via speaker/mic headphones (Amateur Radio

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On 2015-09-30 at 13:23, Doug wrote: > On 09/30/2015 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > /snip/ > >> The letter of the law my dear Shylock, the letter. >> >> But in spirit, Open Source and Free Software couldn't be more >> different. The one is about a more efficient software production >> mod

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On 09/30/2015 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: /snip/ The letter of the law my dear Shylock, the letter. But in spirit, Open Source and Free Software couldn't be more different. The one is about a more efficient software production model, the other about the user's rights. But such "spirit

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> UUOR > > http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact > 0 matches -- very helpful :) -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England |

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 17:48:36 Curt wrote: > On 2015-09-30, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> root@tal:~# locate libcurl > >> ... > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3 > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On 2015-09-30, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> root@tal:~# locate libcurl >> ... >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3 >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4 >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0 >> /usr/lib

Re: Status of repository debian/testing?

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:58:05 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >for filezilla and digikam. Neither currently exist in testing. Like you, I hope for a swift return. Filezilla I can live without, but I don't relish the thought of having to do without digikam for too long. -- Regards _

Re: Status of repository debian/testing?

Hello folks, hi Joe! Thank you all for your response, especially Joe for his big answer. I now have new experiences, and I want to tell you, how I solved all this. First, I checked apt-get dist-upgrade. This wanted to install tons of software and also wanted to update tons of software. However,

Re: how do I suggest an enhancement to apticron?

On 2015-09-30 at 11:29, Richard Kennedy wrote: > I have an enhancement to apticron that I run local, it works for me > so I'd like to share it, as other people may find it useful too. > > What is the best way to do that? (wishlist bug report or something > else?) A wishlist bug report would pro

how do I suggest an enhancement to apticron?

I have an enhancement to apticron that I run local, it works for me so I'd like to share it, as other people may find it useful too. What is the best way to do that? (wishlist bug report or something else?) And is the process documented anywhere ? Thanks for any suggestions Richard

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 12:37:58 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > all > Free Software is Open Source. Semantics again. So you would say that Freeware is not Free Software? It is certainly free software. Lisi

Re: Sound card question

On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:55 am, Danny wrote: > What I would like to know is if it would be possible to send audio that > goes to the headphones to the Line-Out jack at the same time? I would be surprised that the case is otherwise. I always install "pavucontrol" (pulse audio volume control),

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:49 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Or -- if you have the 'apt-file' package installed: > > > tomas@rasputin:~$ sudo apt-file update # do this from time to time > [some output elided] > tomas@rasputin:~$ apt-file search libcurl.so.4 > libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/li

Sound card question

Hi guys, I have a Sigmatel STAC9227 on-board sound card. Everything works fine as it should. It has the normal Mic , Ext.Speaker and Line-Out jacks. Currently the Mic and Ext.Speaker plugs are permanently occupied via speaker/mic headphones (Amateur Radio Stuff) ... What I would like to know is

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > root@tal:~# locate libcurl > ... > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3 > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4 > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0 > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3 > /usr/lib/i386-linux-g

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:22:01AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:31:16PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > Further progress: > > > > Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message: > > > > /usr

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:31:16PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Further progress: > > Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message: > > /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: > libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or d

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

>> If you think of non-free in terms of Debian non-free, then non-free >> and proprietary can be different things. That gets into a whole >> different hornets nest. > Evaluate here, please. I honestly can not grasp this concept. I think he's referring to things like emacs24-common-non-dfsg. IOW, a

Re: Deleting i386 packages

On 30/09/2015 14:53, Chris Bannister wrote: Please don't top post on the debian-users mailing list It was unintentional. My main point stays. An admin and IT manager needs to evaluate their goals and decide on the right approach. Sometimes it can be frustrating to navigate between the drops

Re: Deleting i386 packages

Please don't top post on the debian-users mailing list On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:33:52PM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > Hey Chris, > > It doesn't matter if some would like them to just vanish. > They do commit to the client but the scale of things might not be understood > by all in the same

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 01:09:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 9 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Reco a écrit : > > 'Open-source' by itself does not imply that the software is free (as in > > libre). > > > > A fine example of such software is RAR

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

Le nonidi 9 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Reco a écrit : > 'Open-source' by itself does not imply that the software is free (as in > libre). > > A fine example of such software is RAR archiver. > They give you the source - https://packages.debian.org/stretch/rar > They forbid you to change it. They requ

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Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

Hi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:57:13PM -0700, Seeker wrote: > > > On 9/29/2015 10:33 AM, Reco wrote: > > > > No, you are wrong here. First, you're trying to introduce a false > dichotomy as if 'proprietary' and 'non-free' are different somehow. > Second, 'non-free' is *alw

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:34:12PM -0400, Doug wrote: > > > On 09/29/2015 01:33 PM, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > >On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 01:22:09PM -0400, Doug wrote: > > /major snip/ > > > > > >>Among programs which are not open and not free are several CAD programs > > > >That's hardly every

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

Hi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:16:30PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 29 September 2015 18:33:41 Reco wrote: > > Confusing 'open-source' with 'free software' is a common mistake. > > No, Reco. _You_ are confusing the language. I beg to differ, Lisi. > In English English "free

Re: [OT] Free software vs non-free, here we go again

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:34:12PM -0400, Doug wrote: [...] > You may just be cheap, Reco. I'm willing to pay for what is not free > when I deem it is worth my money to do so. YMMV. Sigh. The usual red herring. As Stefan points out downthread, Free

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

> "Alfonso" == Alfonso García writes: Alfonso> Hi, I experience a mouse and keyboard strange behavior since debian 7 to 8 Alfonso> update. Sometimes, when X windows system started, the USB mouse doesn't work Alfonso> and the USB keyboard loses randomly groups of keystrokes. This

Re: Debian on Dlink DNS-320

On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 22:05 +0200, Alexandre GRIVEAUX wrote: [...] > After that, the debian installer boot and show only my usb key:*SCSI3 > (0,0,0) (sda) - 3.9 GB USB DISK > At the end it can't install the kernel > I'm stuck here. Perhaps you would get more help on the debian-arm list? -- Tixy

Re: A mouse and keyboard problem (randomly lose keystrokes)

> Have you checked the hardware? Does the keyboard work elsewhere, or does > another USB keyboard work on this computer? Hi, The keyboard works fine on my Rpi and on other laptop, seems that it is not a hardware problem (I'm experiencing this misbehavior since I updated Debian 7 update, not befo