Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-05 Thread Thierry Rascle
Hi, I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and in Openbox. I have no idea what causes this. I don't see any error message. Does anyone else have the same problem ? Thanks! Thierry

Re: Laptop recommendation

2018-07-05 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-07-06 08:43:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Default answer to many folks these days⦂ https://puri.sm/ I think they are in the market for a used ThinkPad. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ghost buster ?

2018-07-05 Thread igor80
salut, toujours via le tracker : [2017-12-15] ekiga REMOVED from testing (Debian testing watch) https://tracker.debian.org/news/894345/ekiga-removed-from-testing/ Bug #859558: ptlib: Please migrate to openssl1.1 in buster il y a un passage vers la version 1.1 d'openssl pour buster comme ptlib

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:27:31AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 11:11:19 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > On 7/5/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > >> 1. ctrl-alt-F1 > > > > > > Note: since stretch things have...

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-05 Thread Matthew Crews
On 07/05/2018 06:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no >> problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16 >> and it broke the nvidia driver. >> >>

Re: Trouble booting lvm raid/luks system with latest kernel in Testing

2018-07-05 Thread Alex Gould
Thanks for everyone's help. I looked into what deloptes and tv.debian suggested. In the course of this I have become convinced that I am afflicted by bug #902943 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=902943 . So I'll subscribe to the bug and see if there's any way I can help

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-05 Thread Mark Allums
Sorry, I failed to read your whole message. Make sure you have installed the the kbuild and headers for your current running kernel. Then consider upgrading your nvidia driver to the latest version (in sid, still, I believe). If you do the latter, be sure and use the kernel parameter I

Re: Laptop recommendation

2018-07-05 Thread Doug
On 07/05/2018 06:43 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 09:11:14AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 12:39:18PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 03:38:17PM +0200, Jonas Hedman wrote: Hello I hope that is not OT for this list. Basically I'm

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-05 Thread Mark Allums
On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote: Hey all, I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16 and it broke the nvidia driver. Running 'dkms autoinstall --all' does not help, it

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-05 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 05-07-2018 a las 11:16 -0300, divagante escribió: > Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito > extenso > así que ya mismo hago un "copete" para resumir: > > Utilice tres programas diferentes para leer epubs y no me > encuentro > cómodo con ninguno: Fbreader,

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 14:08:21 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 12:57:34PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 12:42:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:06:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > But if you're a sysadmin who has

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 16:29:30 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 3:46 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:27:44PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > (1) You foolishly relied on the value in /etc/debian_version when > > > > It is not a fucking

Re: How to upgrade the linux-image package on Debian 8.7 OS

2018-07-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 05/07/18 19:39, Latif Shaikh wrote: Hi, As Nessus scan report, they are suggested to upgrade the kernel/linux version with *linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64_3.**16.56-1* but this version is not available for upgrading on your Debian portal. Can you please help us to upgrade the linux version

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-05 Thread Matthew Crews
You sure you have the 4.16 headers installed and not the 4.15 headers? Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. Original Message On Jul 5, 2018, 15:42, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver

Re: Laptop recommendation

2018-07-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 09:11:14AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 12:39:18PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 03:38:17PM +0200, Jonas Hedman wrote: > > > Hello I hope that is not OT for this list. > > > > > > Basically I'm on the hunt for a newish

Nvidia drivers

2018-07-05 Thread Francisco Mariano-Neto
Hey all, I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16 and it broke the nvidia driver. Running 'dkms autoinstall --all' does not help, it complains about not finding kernel headers (which are

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 3:46 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:27:44PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > (1) You foolishly relied on the value in /etc/debian_version when > > It is not a fucking configuration file that you edit. > It is supposed to be read only. > Only a

Re: Xfce4 - uninstalled pulseaudio - no volume control for alsa for the panel

2018-07-05 Thread Michael Lange
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:08:05 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > you might want to have a look at pnmixer. > > It works with both pulseaudio and plain alsa and should work with any > > DE's system tray. > > Sounds great. By default, it simply starts, in XFCE, in the tray. > > The man page needs a

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:27:44PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > (1) You foolishly relied on the value in /etc/debian_version when It is not a fucking configuration file that you edit. It is supposed to be read only. Only a crazy idiot would manually edit the file that tells you what

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Joe
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 14:57:03 -0500 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I am rightly accused of relying too heavily on /etc/debian_version to > detect my running release. But it seems clear > to me that the "right", canonical way to detect this is to query the > installed package base to extract a

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 3:16 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 02:57:03PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > So surely there is an > > "approved" tool for doing that. Hopefully OTHER THAN > > apt, aptitude, synaptic or apt-get; ideally simpler and easier to > > script than that.

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 02:57:03PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I am rightly accused of relying too heavily on /etc/debian_version to > detect my running release. But it seems clear > to me that the "right", canonical way to detect this is to query the > installed package base to extract a

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I am rightly accused of relying too heavily on /etc/debian_version to detect my running release. But it seems clear to me that the "right", canonical way to detect this is to query the installed package base to extract a version/release number from a package name and/or version. So surely there is

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-05 Thread Felix Perez
El 5 de julio de 2018, 14:44, eduardo gil escribió: > A ver... > Lo que tu "sufres" se comprende bien. > En algunos casos (en especial Edición de video, diseño grafico profesional) > Linux carece de aplicaciones buenas, funcionales y "completas". > > En el caso de lectores para epbub la cosa

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-05 Thread eduardo gil
A ver... Lo que tu "sufres" se comprende bien. En algunos casos (en especial Edición de video, diseño grafico profesional) Linux carece de aplicaciones buenas, funcionales y "completas". En el caso de lectores para epbub la cosa está similar pero... por lo general la gente usa Calibre a pesar

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:02:15 +0200 Guillaume Clercin wrote: Hello Guillaume, >I upgrade nvidia-driver to version 390.67-2 and I can boot without >option "slab_common.usercopy_fallback". Thanks for all your input on this, Guillaume. If you hadn't pointed out the workaround, I'd have been well

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 12:57:34PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 12:42:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:06:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > But if you're a sysadmin who has a script that wants/needs a version > > > *number* for any reason,

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-05 Thread Guillaume Clercin
Le jeudi 5 juillet 2018, 08:25:15 CEST Ric Moore a écrit : > On 07/04/2018 09:12 PM, Carl Fink wrote: > > On 07/02/2018 04:49 AM, Guillaume Clercin wrote: > >> You need to update "/etc/default/grub" and add parameter to boot with. > >> In this > >> file, you need to edit the line starting with

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 12:42:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:06:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > But if you're a sysadmin who has a script that wants/needs a version > > *number* for any reason, then /etc/debian_version is the safest file > > to modify. > > I

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:06:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > But if you're a sysadmin who has a script that wants/needs a version > *number* for any reason, then /etc/debian_version is the safest file > to modify. I strongly disagree. The safest file to modify would be the broken shell script

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/5/18, Dave wrote: > > On 7/5/18 9:18 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: >>> after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) >>> >>> the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. >>> >>> I just installed deb 9.4 amd / the bios

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 11:11:19 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 7/5/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:18:38AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: > >> > > >> >

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 11:53:45 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:09:36 + (UTC) > Curt wrote: > > > > > > The problem I'm looking at is that the Debian testing/unstable > > releases do not have a version number and are not going to be > > receiving one any time soon (the tradition

Re: [OT] Videos disponibles en los videocursos

2018-07-05 Thread Galvatorix Torixgalva
Hola, en tutellus tienen de todo, desde cursos gratuitos a cursos de pago. A mi me llaman mas la atencion los cursos que son mas caros y tienen un monton de gente. De todas formas lo veo normal, en muchos sitios hay cursos de pago de mil cosas. Segun la web de tutellus "lo que dan" es acceso al

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/5/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:18:38AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: >> > >> > after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) >> > the

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 10:33:52AM -0400, Dave wrote: > > > I cannot SSH in to this sytem. > > I have tried Ctrl Alt F1 or F2 does not work. You'll need to reboot. Ctrl-Alt-Del should work. -dsr-

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 05 Jul 2018 at 12:58:21 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/07/18 03:53, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 04 Jul 2018 at 13:18:14 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 02/07/18 05:31, David Wright wrote: > >>> On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 22:44:17 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On

Re: [OT] Videos disponibles en los videocursos

2018-07-05 Thread divagante
El 04/07/18 a las 12:17, Galvatorix Torixgalva escribió: Hola, cuando empece con este proyecto mi idea era publicar los videos en youtube. ¿Porque no lo hice al final?. Porque me pase mucho tiempo viendo videos de los propios youtubers quejandose de cosas de youtube. Estuve evaluando puntos

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Dave
On 7/5/18 10:23 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:34:48AM -0400, Dave wrote: On 7/5/18 9:18 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) the computer wakes, the keyboard

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-05 Thread TheFox
Aquí tienes algunas posibles alternativas: https://hipertextual.com/archivo/2012/11/5-alternativas-a-calibre/ Santiago. El jue., 5 jul. 2018 16:16, divagante escribió: > Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito extenso > así que ya mismo hago un "copete" para resumir: >

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:18:38AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: > > > > after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) > > > > the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. >

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:34:48AM -0400, Dave wrote: > > On 7/5/18 9:18 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: > > > after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) > > > > > > the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. > > > > >

[OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-05 Thread divagante
Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito extenso así que ya mismo hago un "copete" para resumir: Utilice tres programas diferentes para leer epubs y no me encuentro cómodo con ninguno: Fbreader, MuPDF y Lucidor. Si sabes de alguno que que no tenga los problemas que

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Dave
On 7/5/18 9:18 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. I just installed deb 9.4 amd / the bios was just updated. By terminal, do you mean

Re: Fwd: terminal will not wak after hibernation

2018-07-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:33:12PM -0400, Dave wrote: > > after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) > > the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. > > I just installed deb 9.4 amd / the bios was just updated. By terminal, do you mean monitor? If so: 1.

Re: Trouble booting lvm raid/luks system with latest kernel in Testing

2018-07-05 Thread deloptes
Alex Gould wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, at 3:08 PM, deloptes wrote: >> Alex Gould wrote: >> >> > I imagine I will need to fix some settings for initramfs, grub, >> > crypttab, fstab, or something, but I'm not sure how to proceed. >> >> I would compare content of new and old initrd >> >>

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 10:09:29AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 04 Jul 2018 at 09:55:54 (+0900), John Crawley wrote: > > Sorry, but I thought a "configuration file" was supposed to > > influence the behaviour of _software_ in some way. Are files which > > only provide info for humans also

Re: ghost buster ?

2018-07-05 Thread jean-pierre giraud
Bonjour, Le 05/07/2018 à 14:00, Marc Chantreux a écrit : > salut à tous, > je viens de m'appercevoir que ekiga est présent dans stable, présent > dans sid et porté disparu dans buster ... j'imagine qu'un truc est > cassé qqpart et que cette disparition est temporaire. pour m'en assurer, >

ghost buster ?

2018-07-05 Thread Marc Chantreux
salut à tous, je viens de m'appercevoir que ekiga est présent dans stable, présent dans sid et porté disparu dans buster ... j'imagine qu'un truc est cassé qqpart et que cette disparition est temporaire. pour m'en assurer, existe-t'il un moyen simple et rapide pour savoir pourquoi un paquet est

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-05, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:09:36 + (UTC) > Curt wrote: > > >> >> The problem I'm looking at is that the Debian testing/unstable >> releases do not have a version number and are not going to be >> receiving one any time soon (the tradition of not according a number >>

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Joe
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:09:36 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > > The problem I'm looking at is that the Debian testing/unstable > releases do not have a version number and are not going to be > receiving one any time soon (the tradition of not according a number > to these two releases being of the

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-05, Richard Hector wrote: > > Equally, if I want to know what the time is, I can ask you. > If you don't know, I can tell you. > Then I can ask you, and now you'll know, and I'll find out. > > Right? > > We must be looking at different problems. > > I'm assuming that if you're trying

Re: Domaine sécurisé pour un groupe d utilisateurs

2018-07-05 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "roger tarani" > À: "Liste Debian" > Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Juillet 2018 09:50:59 > Objet: Domaine sécurisé pour un groupe d utilisateurs > > J'utilise Debian en solo. > Mais voilà, à force de jouer avec Debian sur différentes machines > pour essayer divers paquets,

Domaine sécurisé pour un groupe d utilisateurs

2018-07-05 Thread roger . tarani
J'utilise Debian en solo. Mais voilà, à force de jouer avec Debian sur différentes machines pour essayer divers paquets, je me retrouve avec une petite flotte de (vénérables) PC. Des fois c'est un casse-tête et mon cahier des installations me sauve souvent. De plus, j'aimerais faire profiter

Re: Trouble booting lvm raid/luks system with latest kernel in Testing

2018-07-05 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 05/07/2018 00:24, Alex Gould wrote: Hi, I'm hoping for some advice for a problem with my system that is tracking Debian Testing. The system has two equally-sized internal hard drives. They are partitioned in the following way: Disk A has a smaller ext2 partition that serves as /boot, with

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/04/2018 09:12 PM, Carl Fink wrote: On 07/02/2018 04:49 AM, Guillaume Clercin wrote: You need to update "/etc/default/grub" and add parameter to boot with. In this file, you need to edit the line starting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and append option: "slab_common.usercopy_fallback=y". This

Re: several messages

2018-07-05 Thread davidson
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Dave wrote: after hibernation the terminal will not wake ( apparently, no signal ) the computer wakes, the keyboard lights up. I just installed deb 9.4 amd / the bios was just updated. On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, Dave wrote: Display will not wake after Hibernation or Sleep i