Re: 3 phase power converters

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 23:30:47 John Hasler wrote: > A static converter doesn't produce three phase. It converts a > three-phase motor into a capacitor start, capacitor run single phase > motor by connecting two of the phases to the single phase lines and > connecting the third phase to one o

Re: 3 phase power converters

2019-08-03 Thread John Hasler
A static converter doesn't produce three phase. It converts a three-phase motor into a capacitor start, capacitor run single phase motor by connecting two of the phases to the single phase lines and connecting the third phase to one of the lines through capacitors. It only works for motors and ne

3 phase power converters (was: Re: 3 phase power (was Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?))

2019-08-03 Thread rhkramer
Just wanted to mention for anyone that might need 3 phase power in a home environment, there are ways to convert 120/240 "single phase" power to, for example, 208 or 480 volt 3 phase power if you have a need and don't require too much horsepower, and at a cost of much less than the $20,000 that

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 14:45:46 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 12:32:39 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wrig

Re: Buster's Strange Behaviour Purging Firefox-esr

2019-08-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 11:37:51 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 09:05:52 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:09:29 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: > > > On 2019-08-02 21:36 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > Installed Buster (netinstall CD, LXDE desktop

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:39:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:26:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [A lot of snipping] > > For current situation WEP (though antique/limited) is adequate. > > What happened to "A concern is security issues" above? The OP acknowledges the d

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 19:10, Joe wrote: Three phases allows lower currents in the cables than a single-phase motor of the same power, and can run on three wires only, without the need for a neutral wire. There's no need for any 'syncing'. In a three-phase power system, the voltage between two phases is

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 12:32:39 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene He

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-08-03 Thread Joe
On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 17:28:24 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-07-30 13:30, Matthew Crews wrote: > > On 7/29/19 12:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 20:43:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > >>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler > >>> wrote: > >>> > They don't h

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 10:32:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: [...] > > AIUI passwords are not encrypted, they're hashed. Yep. In theory, there's no "way back" from the hash to the password. In practice, though... > And apparently each h

Re: Buster's Strange Behaviour Purging Firefox-esr

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 09:05:52 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:09:29 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: > > On 2019-08-02 21:36 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > Installed Buster (netinstall CD, LXDE desktop ONLY, system-utils) in > > > Virtualbox 6.0 on Stretch (sysvinit as i

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wrig

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 17:22, Gene Heskett wrote: to run. When it logs you out can you log in at another screen (whatever it's called) Ctrl Alt F key ? If so then is something about the display manager ? ctrl+alt+F8, yes, so I opened a term and did an xset -dpms. Whats the name of that lightdm config

Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-07-30 13:30, Matthew Crews wrote: On 7/29/19 12:57 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 20:43:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:26:14 -0500 John Hasler wrote: They don't have to be on the same branch circuit: just on the same "phase"[1]. There is probably a gad

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:46:30 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-03 16:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: > >> On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > >> > >> >> I would probably add another user and see if they have s

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 aug 19, 10:26:34, Richard Owlett wrote: > > For current situation WEP (though antique/limited) is adequate. WEP is known to be crackable, since years ago. I'm guessing with current hardware it should be quite easy. > > Why not just buy an inexpensive wireless router? > > That questi

Re: Buster's Strange Behaviour Purging Firefox-esr

2019-08-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 08:03:32 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 02 aug 19, 21:36:17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Hi! All -- > > > > Installed Buster (netinstall CD, LXDE desktop ONLY, system-utils) in > > Virtualbox 6.0 on Stretch (sysvinit as init) host to test and evaluate. > > Firefox-esr, of

Re: Buster's Strange Behaviour Purging Firefox-esr

2019-08-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:09:29 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2019-08-02 21:36 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Installed Buster (netinstall CD, LXDE desktop ONLY, system-utils) in > > Virtualbox 6.0 on Stretch (sysvinit as init) host to test and evaluate. > > Firefox-esr, of course, installed b

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene He

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 16:31, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett >> I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem >> on the local machine. >> >> mick > > I'd thought of that but

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 22:09:45 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 04:08 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 29 Jul 2019 at 11:56:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 07/29/2019 10:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > On 07/29/2019 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > [snip] >

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:26:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/03/2019 09:53 AM, Lee wrote: > > On 8/3/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 07/29/2019 05:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. > > > > Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heske

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > >> I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem > >> on the local machine. > >> > >> mick > > > > I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 08:18:13 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 05:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. > > Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested > > is wireless. > > I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/03/2019 09:53 AM, Lee wrote: On 8/3/19, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/29/2019 05:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is wireless. I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. My us

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPE

Re: Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread Lee
On 8/3/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2019 05:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. >> Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is >> wireless. >> I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. >> My usage would typically be

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:12:59 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 03 aug 19, 09:57:27, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > > > I would probably add another user and see if they have same > > > problem on the local machine. > > > > I'd thought of that bu

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem on the local machine. mick I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need a user amanda who is a member of group backup for the backup program amanda. So

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote:

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 09:45:49 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:51:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 08:01:40 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > > My experience for many years has been that the first console is > > > especially a stinker about having a supe

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 aug 19, 09:57:27, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > > > > I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem on > > the local machine. > > I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need a user amanda who is > a member of

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > > > > > No root

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-01 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > selecting xfce4, so my first a

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 06:49:41 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [+3038.26s] DEBUG: Session pid=490: Authentication complete with > > return value 7: Authentication failure > > Check permissions on '~.Xauthority' file maybe (think it should be > gene:gene). Maybe that file

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:51:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 08:01:40 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > My experience for many years has been that the first console is > > especially a stinker about having a super fast keystroke repeat > > setting. We can see it visually when

Useful links - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/29/2019 05:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Sneakernet for file transfer has become annoying. Ethernet is undesirable in my environment so I am only interested is wireless. I have only a few machines a max of 6' apart. My usage would typically be peer-to-peer but I want to communicate betwee

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-03 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 02/08/2019 18:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Thanks to all for useful input. Thanks to a little brain fade I hadn't been able to find the Oracle repository, but all is now well. Peter HB

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, mick crane wrote: On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 03 Aug 02:25 -0500, Sven Hartge wrote: > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > On 2019 02 Aug 12:11 -0500, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > >> Given that VBox is no longer in the Buster repositories I tried to > >> install the Stretch .deb package from the VBox web site. dpkg failed > >> because of de

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-01 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x an

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [+3038.26s] DEBUG: Session pid=490: Authentication complete with return > value 7: Authentication failure Check permissions on '~.Xauthority' file maybe (think it should be gene:gene). Maybe that file is 'stale' (whatever that might mean). Maybe you could m

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 05:58:49 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> as well as the contents of > >> > >> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log > > What about the log? Since the logs have been rotated, I find many stanza's of this in the lightdm.log.old [+3030.13s] DEBUG: Greeter

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 03:55:32 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught > > up. I > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.ht >ml > > You're using lightdm as a display manager (graph

Re: I Can't use adminer

2019-08-03 Thread Alexandre Rossi
> > You must also install and setup a php-enabled web server for it to > > work. > > > > The simplest way to get it running is: > > $ cd /usr/share/adminer > > $ php -S localhost:8000 > > > > and you'll find adminer at http://localhost:8000/adminer/ > > > > (There are many other ways to run a ph

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), before reaching the target. I

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> as well as the contents of >> >> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log What about the log? What happens exactly? >> might provide some clue. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 03:55:32 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught > > up. I > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.ht >ml > > You're using lightdm as a display manager (graph

Re: Debian Stretch freezes often

2019-08-03 Thread Elena DP
Hi Enzo! Perhaps I have the same problem as you! I get the desktop frozen but not the sytem. It's to say I can get in my machine through an ssh connection but I can't do nothing with my local keyboard or local mouse. Even if I disconnect my USB keyboard/mouse and reconnect in other USB port, I can

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught up. I https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.html You're using lightdm as a display manager (graphical login)? If so sudo tail -f /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greete

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: So - you had the plugin installed already! yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. and on my laptop, it opens a window sayi

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Nate Bargmann wrote: > On 2019 02 Aug 12:11 -0500, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> Given that VBox is no longer in the Buster repositories I tried to >> install the Stretch .deb package from the VBox web site. dpkg failed >> because of dependency problems, including libvpx4 that is not in the >> Bu