Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

2020-01-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting john doe (2020-01-06 07:54:44) > On 1/4/2020 6:12 PM, Steve Kemp wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, Mutt uses the ncurses interface > > > > Yes. > > > >> Can I use Mutt without ncurses? > > > > No. > > > >> If no, is my only alternative Sup/Notmuch? > > > > https://aerc-mail.org/ is ne

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

2020-01-05 Thread john doe
On 1/4/2020 6:12 PM, Steve Kemp wrote: >> As far as I can tell, Mutt uses the ncurses interface > > Yes. > >> Can I use Mutt without ncurses? > > No. > >> If no, is my only alternative Sup/Notmuch? > > https://aerc-mail.org/ is new, and golang-based. No ncurses. > > Though it has to be sai

Re: apple mini

2020-01-05 Thread Felix Miata
mick crane composed on 2020-01-05 21:54 (UTC): > yes I know this is Debian user list > yes I know that apple is unix. > I got an apple mini to give to somebody > to clean it up is that > "userdel" > "makeusr" or something like that ? Seems all you really need to do is remove the content from the

Re: apple mini

2020-01-05 Thread Marco Shaw
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-and-delete-users-on-debian-8 Do you know what might be on this system? It’s “best” to wipe it clean though. That will take more effort obviously: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-to-wipe-a-mac-hard-drive/ > On Jan 5, 2020, at 5:54 P

Re: apple mini

2020-01-05 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-01-05 13:54, mick crane wrote: yes I know this is Debian user list yes I know that apple is unix. I got an apple mini to give to somebody to clean it up is that "userdel" "makeusr" or something like that ? mick I would boot a Debian installer or live image and zero the drive(s) inside

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Peter Ehlert
that reformat "feature" is hateful. I fail to see any advantage. It does break the other systems, but they can be recovered by editing you fstab file with the New UUID as you know. I use the Manual mode... _auto installers never seem to get it right_ (my way). *Using Manual, select existing

apple mini

2020-01-05 Thread mick crane
yes I know this is Debian user list yes I know that apple is unix. I got an apple mini to give to somebody to clean it up is that "userdel" "makeusr" or something like that ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Giveaway-Laptop: sending system mails

2020-01-05 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hi Reco, > NEWS.Debian.gz have this to say on the issue: That was the hint I needed :) Thanks a lot! I sometimes read the files in /usr/share/doc/${PACKAGE}, but not often enough, it seems. Now I have a working E-Mail setup and the guy who got the computer is happy with it. He doesn't even know

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 7:25 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > As someone else mentioned, possibly some other process is keeping the > audio device busy. 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/' (as root) should help. Yes, why have I not done this before? # lsof | grep /dev/snd/ lsof: WARNI

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 7:37 pm, Curt wrote: > The relevant Debian wiki suggests (as a possible cure for missing > playback devices): > > $ rm -r ~/.config/pulse /tmp/pulse-* > $ pulseaudio --kill > $ pulseaudio --start > > https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Missing_playbac

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Joe
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 19:22:58 +0100 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 05/01/2020 à 18:50, Joe a écrit : > > > > Windows uses a swap file, not a separate partition. We are told that > > there is no performance penalty for Linux to do so also. > > Using a swap file can cause a performance penalty if the

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 20, 18:32:22, Curt wrote: > On 2020-01-05, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > As someone else mentioned, possibly some other process is keeping the=20 > > audio device busy. 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/' (as root) should help. > > > > fuser -v /dev/snd/* Nice, learned something new. > as a

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Curt wrote: > On 2020-01-05, Yoann LE BARS wrote: >> >> So, I am still at the same point: it seems the system does detect the >> hardware, but it also seems that there is some trouble in Pulseaudio >> configuration and I still do not have any clue on how to solve this. > > You

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > As someone else mentioned, possibly some other process is keeping the=20 > audio device busy. 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/' (as root) should help. > fuser -v /dev/snd/* as a normal joe seems to do the trick here too. -- "J'ai pour me guérir du jugement des

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread deloptes
André Rodier wrote: > For a while, I thought your instructions would work, but no: > > -- > root@lovelace:~# hciconfig > hci1:   Type: Primary  Bus: USB > BD Address: 00:1A:7D:DA:71:11  ACL MTU: 679:9  SCO MTU: 48:16 > DOWN > RX

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 20, 17:37:42, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2020/01/05 4:14 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Are you a member of the 'audio' group? > > Yes indeed. > > > How is pulseaudio started? > > This is a good question, I do not really know … > >

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/01/2020 à 18:50, Joe a écrit : Windows uses a swap file, not a separate partition. We are told that there is no performance penalty for Linux to do so also. Using a swap file can cause a performance penalty if the file is heavily fragmented. Granted, it also applies to a fragmented LVM

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread deloptes
André Rodier wrote: > Thanks for your answer. I have this one, but I could not manage to have > it working. The usual hciconfig command fails, with an error message > "not supported". The interface is marked as down. > > The device appears on Windows, but neither works. > > I don't mind (too muc

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Joe
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:40:56 + Clod Turner wrote: > Hello all, > > Longer version of the question : – > > Why does the Debian Graphical installer compromise any other Linux > install on the same HDD/SSD by reformatting swap. I doubt that it > affects Windows since it does not use swap (I do

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > So, I am still at the same point: it seems the system does detect the > hardware, but it also seems that there is some trouble in Pulseaudio > configuration and I still do not have any clue on how to solve this. You might try rm -r ~/.pulse*; pulsea

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Felix Miata
Clod Turner composed on 2020-01-05 15:40 (UTC): > no matter what options you try to select in the > partitioning dialogue, the installer will always reformat swap and > therefore swap gets a new UUID. Not true. There's another selectable option I always use: create no swap. /If/ swap is actually

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/5/20 7:08 PM, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2020//01/05 5:45 pm, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> try this: >> >> - start pavucontrol application >> - select "Configuration" tab and select "Analog Stereo Duplex" under >> "Built-in Audio" device. > > Well, unfor

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 6:19 pm, Curt wrote: >> Well, unfortunately, there is no device available for configuration. > > You need one in order to get anywhere. Indeed. So, there is still this question: why does the system detect the sound card and why can I not fi

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 6:09 pm, Curt wrote: >> Well, I have check out: nothing is muted in Alsamixer. > > For the card in question, of course (HDA whatever--F6). Of course, I have enabled every view and selected the HDA Intel PCH device. > Is the sound module b

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2020//01/05 5:45 pm, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> try this: >> >> - start pavucontrol application >> - select "Configuration" tab and select "Analog Stereo Duplex" under >> "Built-in Audio" device. > > Well, unfortunat

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020//01/05 5:45 pm, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > try this: > > - start pavucontrol application > - select "Configuration" tab and select "Analog Stereo Duplex" under > "Built-in Audio" device. Well, unfortunately, there is no device available for configurat

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2020/01/05 at 00:50 pm, Leventewrote: >> There are switches also in alsamixer. Try thoes. > > Well, I have check out: nothing is muted in Alsamixer. For the card in question, of course (HDA whatever--F6). >> Also che

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/5/20 6:27 PM, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > On 2020/01/05 at 00:50 pm, Leventewrote: >> There are switches also in alsamixer. Try thoes. > > Well, I have check out: nothing is muted in Alsamixer. > >> Also check if ther's other sound cards in your system, li

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/01/2020 à 16:40, Clod Turner a écrit : Why does the Debian Graphical installer compromise any other Linux install on the same HDD/SSD by reformatting swap. This is a well known long standing "feature" of the Debian installer. It is not specific to the graphical installer. Also it does n

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 4:14 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Are you a member of the 'audio' group? Yes indeed. > How is pulseaudio started? This is a good question, I do not really know … Anyway, restarting Pulseaudio does not change anything. B

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 on 3:43 pm, Nate Bargmann wrote: > IIRC, I've had to select the card (F6) in alsamixer and unmute its Master > channel (m command). It's maddening at first when the default channel > in alsamixer and pavucontrol are not muted. Once this is done > everyt

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 at 00:50 pm, Leventewrote: > There are switches also in alsamixer. Try thoes. Well, I have check out: nothing is muted in Alsamixer. > Also check if ther's other sound cards in your system, like a connected > hdmi. No, there is only one

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! On 2020/01/05 at 00:31 pm, Markus Grunwald wrote: > I had the same experience for (almost) every new or old installation > that I made. Fresh install of testing or stable, never mind: each time, > Sound didn't work from scratch with Pulseaudio. I deinstalled it, and >

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting André Rodier (2020-01-05 13:38:03) > On Sun, 2020-01-05 at 12:24 +0100, deloptes wrote: > > André Rodier wrote: > > > I am looking for a USB / Bluetooth 5 adapter, natively compatible > > > with Debian. > > most of them are > > > > I use ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetoot

Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

2020-01-05 Thread Clod Turner
Hello all, Longer version of the question : – Why does the Debian Graphical installer compromise any other Linux install on the same HDD/SSD by reformatting swap. I doubt that it affects Windows since it does not use swap (I do not have any Windows installed so cannot test). I used debian-10.2.0

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 20, 10:44:21, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > In Alsamixer, I have set everything to its maximum. Still, I cannot get > any sound and all that is available in Pavucontrol is a virtual output. > My guess is there is something wrong in PulseAudio configuration, but I > have not found an

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
IIRC, I've had to select the card (F6) in alsamixer and unmute its Master channel (m command). It's maddening at first when the default channel in alsamixer and pavucontrol are not muted. Once this is done everything has worked well and I've been using pulseaudio for a number of years. - Nate -

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-05, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Most bluetooth adapters work when adding nonfree blobs to the mix. > Not to belabor a trivial point, but I wondered whether "natively" (about whose definition I didn't really reflect when first reading the OP) is actually synonymous with free as opposed

Re: Package comitup: bootstrap Wifi using Wifi

2020-01-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > + > Description-en: bootstrap Wifi using Wifi > Comitup will attempt to connect to wifi using an established connection. If > that fails, is creates a hotspot and web service to aid in configuring a > connection. > + https://github.com/davestee

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

2020-01-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 1/5/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : > > [FAT, hard links] > >> >a feature that is crucial for dpkg. >> >> I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create >> additio

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting deloptes (2020-01-05 12:24:55) > André Rodier wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a USB / Bluetooth 5 adapter, natively compatible with > > Debian. > > > > Thanks, > > André > > most of them are > > I use ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) >

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

2020-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/01/2020 à 11:00, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : [FAT, hard links] a feature that is crucial for dpkg. I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create addition

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Levente
There are switches also in alsamixer. Try thoes. Also check if ther's other sound cards in your system, like a connected hdmi. It should work. Levente On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 12:31 Markus Grunwald wrote: > Hello > > > [...] I can not get any sound and in > > > Pavucontrol I can only see a virt

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello [...] I can not get any sound and in Pavucontrol I can only see a virtual sound output. Does anyone have an idea to solve this problem? I had the same experience for (almost) every new or old installation that I made. Fresh install of testing or stable, never mind: each time

Package comitup: bootstrap Wifi using Wifi

2020-01-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
Hi.. Just an observation about a package that bubbled to the top of the 10,000 or so available on Debian's main repository. Debian-Cross has a post this morning [0] that got me wondering how many things "bootstrap" might sound interesting in Debian. In the process, "comitup" showed up in an "apt-

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread deloptes
André Rodier wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a USB / Bluetooth 5 adapter, natively compatible with > Debian. > > Thanks, > André most of them are I use ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) Double check if adapter (newer once) are LE - there were issues wi

Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

2020-01-05 Thread André Rodier
Hello, I am looking for a USB / Bluetooth 5 adapter, natively compatible with Debian. Thanks, André

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

2020-01-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : [FAT, hard links] > >a feature that is crucial for dpkg. > > I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create > additional hard links. Can you refresh my memories ?

No sound with Pulseaudio

2020-01-05 Thread Yoann LE BARS
Hello everybody out there! I have just installed Debian 10 with XFCE on an old laptop. It works quite well, but for the sound: I can not get any sound and in Pavucontrol I can only see a virtual sound output. However, the system seems to successfully detect the hardware: $ lspc

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

2020-01-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2020-01-04 13:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Some new boot specification mounts the EFI partition on /boot Citation needed, which specification is that? Freedesktop/systemd's Boot Loader Specification.

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

2020-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 20, 10:29:43, 황병희 wrote: > [sorry actually it is off-topic] > > Jude DaShiell writes: > > >> No, there are apline and gnus, to name a few. > > alpine will be a more correct spelling. > > Really i read Reco's apline as *alpine* without doubt. There is some > magic? https://www.sno