Re: Hola!

2021-08-22 Thread OddieX
El dom., 22 de agosto de 2021 19:26, marco bernich escribió: > Hola! > > saludo a la lista;) > > volviendo a Debian, despuès de un tiempo de usar arch... > > la cosa es que instalè la versiòn 11. He tenido varias dificultades (ha > cambiado mucho el entorno GNOME!) pero las he ido

Problemas con la suspensión (era: Hola!)

2021-08-22 Thread Camaleón
El 2021-08-22 a las 19:26 -0300, marco bernich escribió: > la cosa es que instalè la versiòn 11. He tenido varias dificultades (ha > cambiado mucho el entorno GNOME!) pero las he ido resolviendo... salvo, la > suspensiòn que me cuelga la màquina... > > Si alguien me puede ayudar, muchas

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
> OK, I did check out the BIOS/UEFI/Setup and all five fans > can be configured individually. There are five options. I spoke to soon, there seems to be only one set of options for the CPU fan, so I guess the CPU_OPT and CPU_FAN are the same in terms of options. Anyway now I've set all 5 to

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
OK, I did check out the BIOS/UEFI/Setup and all five fans can be configured individually. There are five options. Control can be disabled, auto (the default), DC, or PWM. Wind-up time is set to 0. Minimum speed is 200 RPM. Profiles were Standard (the default), Silent, Turbo, and Manual. I set

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
> Temperatures of the CPU and GPU I have, > > #! /bin/zsh > # > # this file: > # http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/.zsh/misc-hw > # https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/misc-hw > > temperature () { > local gpu=$(sensors -j | jq -a '.["nouveau-pci-0100"].temp1.temp1_input') > local

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > I would figure out what Setup can do with the fans before > messing with the Linux CPU governor. Install software to > display temperatures, to display fan speeds, and to put the > CPU under load. Temperatures of the CPU and GPU I have, #! /bin/zsh # # this file: #

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > Some of my other machines offer additional governors -- > "powersave" and "userspace". Run "cpufreq-info -g" to see > what Debian offers on your motherboard. I did install and did set it to different governors but the fans seem to go on like the always do regardless?

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
didier gaumet wrote: > I would think that pwmconfig complains that it finds 3-pins > fans set up to PWM mode (4-pins required) > > Your UEFI propose either to setup your fans globally or > individually and I think that by default the setup is > global. This would probably be fine il all your fans

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > I would disconnect the fan wire splitter, disconnect > projector extra fan, and connect the Corsair fan directly to > CHA_FAN1 [...] > > CHA_FAN1 - location? - Corsair, 120 mm 3-pin This fan is at the rear end of the computer, high, air goes out. This is 3-pin so

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 5:51 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: OK, I did check out the BIOS/UEFI/Setup and all five fans can be configured individually. There are five options. I spoke to soon, there seems to be only one set of options for the CPU fan, so I guess the CPU_OPT and CPU_FAN are the same in terms of

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 8:51 p.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: >> OK, I did check out the BIOS/UEFI/Setup and all five fans >> can be configured individually. There are five options. > > I spoke to soon, there seems to be only one set of options for > the CPU fan, so I guess the CPU_OPT and CPU_FAN are the same

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > The motherboard user's manual says all of the fan connectors > are 4-pin. Indeed, I looked at one of the fan's wires instead of the connector :$ > Changing the supply voltage of a old-school 2-wire fan will > change the speed. These typically have 4-pin power supply >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 4:57 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: I would figure out what Setup can do with the fans before messing with the Linux CPU governor. Install software to display temperatures, to display fan speeds, and to put the CPU under load. Temperatures of the CPU and GPU I

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Christensen wrote: > Some of my other machines offer additional governors -- > "powersave" and "userspace". Run "cpufreq-info -g" to see > what Debian offers on your motherboard. $ cpufreq-info -g conservative userspace powersave ondemand performance schedutil > The user's manual: > >

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

2021-08-22 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonsoir Basile, Basile Starynkevitch, on 2021-08-22: > Comment configurer le routage? > > J'ai l'impression que la commande route est obsolète Je pense que `route`, pour configurer le routage de la machine, a été intégrée à la commande `ip` : $ ip route default via

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
It took an even closer look at the motherboard and discovered _all_ connectors are 4-pin. Inside the computer, 3/5 fans are 4-pin and the two on the CPU cooling tower (which are 4-pin, so it checks out) even have "PWM" in their sticker text. If the BIOS/UEFI setting is already PWM, and the

Re: Relatively boring bullseye upgrade reports

2021-08-22 Thread Dan Ritter
punk: ASrock 4x4 miniPC, AMD V1605b CPU (Zen, integrated Vega GPU) 16GB RAM, SATA SSD. To be used as a desktop. EFI booting, GPT partitions, ext4fs, XFCE4 desktop, totally smooth. If you don't have heavy GPU needs, this is a great little box. Multiple USB3 and USB2 ports, 2 gigabit NICs, HDMI

Re: mouse pointer in changes unwanted

2021-08-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:45:07 +0200 "sp...@caiway.net" wrote: > I use sddm as display manager, when this is started I get my chosen > big green cursor but when I log in it changes to a small red > mouse pointer > > When I start blackbox, the green one also changes to the red You didn't say what

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 5:47 p.m., David Christensen wrote: > On 8/22/21 2:26 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> didier gaumet wrote: >> >>> I would think that pwmconfig complains that it finds 3-pins >>> fans set up to PWM mode (4-pins required) >>> >>> Your UEFI propose either to setup your fans globally or >>>

Hola!

2021-08-22 Thread marco bernich
Hola! saludo a la lista;) volviendo a Debian, despuès de un tiempo de usar arch... la cosa es que instalè la versiòn 11. He tenido varias dificultades (ha cambiado mucho el entorno GNOME!) pero las he ido resolviendo... salvo, la suspensiòn que me cuelga la màquina... Si alguien me puede

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 August 2021 17:04:06 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 22 August 2021 12:46:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > On 2021-08-22 10:02 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > > > tomas wrote: > > >> I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, > > >> one tacho). I don't

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 2:40 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: Some of my other machines offer additional governors -- "powersave" and "userspace". Run "cpufreq-info -g" to see what Debian offers on your motherboard. I did install and did set it to different governors but the fans seem to

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 2:26 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: didier gaumet wrote: I would think that pwmconfig complains that it finds 3-pins fans set up to PWM mode (4-pins required) Your UEFI propose either to setup your fans globally or individually and I think that by default the setup is global. This would

mouse pointer in changes unwanted

2021-08-22 Thread sp...@caiway.net
My mouse cursor does not follow update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme I use sddm as display manager, when this is started I get my chosen big green cursor but when I log in it changes to a small red mouse pointer When I start blackbox, the green one also changes to the red adduser test

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

2021-08-22 Thread Julio Herrero
El dom, 22-08-2021 a las 22:07 +0200, Basile Starynkevitch escribió: > Comment configurer le routage? /etc/sysctl.conf ... net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ...

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread didier gaumet
Le dimanche 22 août 2021 à 21:59 +0200, Emanuel Berg a écrit : > It took an even closer look at the motherboard and discovered > _all_ connectors are 4-pin. Inside the computer, 3/5 fans are > 4-pin and the two on the CPU cooling tower (which are 4-pin, > so it checks out) even have "PWM" in

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 August 2021 12:46:14 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-22 10:02 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > > tomas wrote: > >> I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, > >> one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM > > > > That's what you get

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 1:15 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: fanfront low be quiet! Shadow Wings 2 140 mm 3-pin[1] front high be quiet! Shadow Wings 2 140 mm 4-pin CPU cooling tower be quiet! Pure Wings 2120 mm 4-pin (2)[2] rear Corsair

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 6:41 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor (fan). I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, one tacho). [1]

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 1:39 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: 4-pin fans wouldn't be possible because of the motherboard sockets, I think, which are also 3-pin. The motherboard user's manual says all of the fan connectors are 4-pin. On 8/22/21 6:03 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Like I already

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

2021-08-22 Thread Jérémy Prego
bonjour, Le 22/08/2021 à 22:07, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : Comment configurer le routage? routage de quoi vers quoi  ? à quoi doit avoir accès l'imprimante / l'ordinateur sur le réseau 1.y ? J'ai l'impression que la commande route est obsolète utiliser plutôt ip route du

Re: serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

2021-08-22 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 22/08/2021 22:12, Jérémy Prego wrote: bonjour, Le 22/08/2021 à 22:07, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : Comment configurer le routage? routage de quoi vers quoi  ? à quoi doit avoir accès l'imprimante / l'ordinateur sur le réseau 1.y ? aux machines du réseau 2.x (mais pas à

serveur Debian testing avec deux ethernet (et routage)

2021-08-22 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Bonjour la liste A la maison (de geek) j'ai plusieurs ordinateurs -tous sous Linux, mais pas forcément Debian-  et surtout de l'Ethernet (le wifi sert occasionnellement, surtout pour les tablettes). J'ai un serveur (de récupération, c'était un déchet d'une boite d'avocats) sous Debian

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
OK, I was wrong, I just checked the motherboard with a flashlight and there are fan connectors with 4 pins! I also checked my sock drawer and - holy socks! - I found a computer fan from AMD, it comes with a cooling tower as well so I think it's for the CPU, anyway it has a 4-wire! So I'll just

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 8/22/21 12:56 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: David Christensen wrote: If you throttle your CPU, it will not generate as much heat: https://wiki.debian.org/CpuFrequencyScaling You mean permanently or when I'm not using the computer? Install the Debian package 'cpufrequtils'. Use

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 14:51:17 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Brian
On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 14:27:12 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:17:15PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been written > > for Debian 8 > > > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > > There's

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > > > written for Debian 8 > > > > > >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
rhkramer wrote: > +1. A voltage controlled DC (computer fan) motor can be > controlled / regulated down to about 40% of full rated speed > (depending on the motor). A PWM (computer fan) motor can be > controlled down to about 20% of full rated speed. I found some web pages that describe the

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:37:30PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > > written for Debian 8 > > > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > > > > Works

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-22 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/16/2021 2:30 AM, John Mok wrote: Hi all, Tried to install Debian 11 guest using netinst, but the installer crashed and reboot automatically. Host: Xen 4.11.4 on Debian 10 Guest: Debian 11 (kernel 5.10) Here is the steps to reproduce the problem:- 1) Either guest BIOS or OVMF boot 2)

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 14:17 -0400, Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > Works for me (Deb11 + Cinnamon). IIRC, after running dpkg -i zoom.deb you need to

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 2:17 p.m., Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems > What is the dependencies that fail ? It does run on Debian Buster. -- Polyna-Maude

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems Can you share the log? Or run apt -f install? On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 9:25 PM Thomas George wrote: > > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been > written for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails,

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 02:17:15PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been written > for Debian 8 > > Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems There's not much we can do about that. If you really want the standalone

zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Thomas George
The zoom client downloaded from the zoom web page seems to have been written for Debian 8 Installing it in bullseye fails, dependency problems

Re: FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI) (was: Re: smart fans)

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Google "Coreboot supported motherboard" ? > > And going to see this page as the first choice > > https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html Great, so was it on the list? It wasn't, right? Bummer... -- underground experts united

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
The Wanderer wrote: >>> See *doc/fan-divisors* for more information. >> >> Yeah, but is that supposed to be a path? Or button? >> What does it mean? > > It's clearly a reference to a path in the source, or native > non-Debian-packaged build, tree of some relevant package. OK, didn't know this

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, > one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM That's what you get with the 4th wire/pin? A sensor to read RPM? "What you can't measure, you can't control" -- underground experts united

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Or what's this about fan-divisors? >> >> You may also need to increase the fan divisors. >> See doc/fan-divisors for more information. >> > See *doc/fan-divisors* for more information. Yeah, but is that supposed to be a path? Or button? What does

Manual vs Auto-Install in APT[ was : kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye]

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 1:09 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: > Note that if you eventually hit a command line which succeeds, you'll > probably wind up marking all the listed packages as manually installed, > which you may not want. It may be worth backing up your > "manually-installed packages" state (as

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Tristan Miller
Greetings. On 22/08/2021 19.10, The Wanderer wrote: What explicit version number do you suggest that I try? Running "apt install kodi gnome-control-center" tells me that The following packages have unmet dependencies: kodi : Depends: kodi-bin (>= 2:19.1+dfsg2-2) but it is not going to be

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-22 at 12:39, Tristan Miller wrote: > Greetings. > > On 22/08/2021 18.10, The Wanderer wrote: > >> This appears to mean either that something is resulting in a >> conflict with that version of kodi-bin, or that that version of >> kodi-bin is not available. >> >> I have: >> >> $

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Tristan Miller
Greetings. On 22/08/2021 18.10, Greg Wooledge wrote: Do you have any packages on hold? dpkg -l | grep ^h No, no output from that command. Do you have any packages pinned, either manually, or by way of some automatic action performed by apt-listbugs? I'm not an expert in pinning, but

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Tristan Miller
Greetings. On 22/08/2021 18.10, The Wanderer wrote: This appears to mean either that something is resulting in a conflict with that version of kodi-bin, or that that version of kodi-bin is not available. I have: $ apt-cache policy gnome-control-center kodi kodi-bin gnome-control-center:

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 12:43 p.m., Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-22 9:41 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside >> wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a

Re: FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI) (was: Re: smart fans)

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 10:04 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Google "Coreboot supported motherboard" ? >> >> And going to see this page as the first choice >> >> https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html > > Great, so was it on the list? I don't know ! Why

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Charles DAVID
Salut, Tu as regardé si le module mod_tls était activé dans /etc/proftpd/modules.conf ? Tu peux lister les modules avec : $ proftpd --list Tu peux aussi lancer proftpd en mode debug pour avoir plus d'informations : $ proftpd --nodaemon --debug 10 Pour valider la syntaxe de la

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 10:02 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > >> I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, >> one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM > > That's what you get with the 4th wire/pin? A sensor to > read RPM? > Opposite 3 wire = 2 wire to

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 10:00 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >>> Or what's this about fan-divisors? >>> >>> You may also need to increase the fan divisors. >>> See doc/fan-divisors for more information. >>> >> See *doc/fan-divisors* for more information. > >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 9:41 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > [...] > >> Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor >> (fan). > > I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins

Re: Relatively boring bullseye upgrade reports

2021-08-22 Thread Reco
Ok, serious things. male: QEMU VM, remote hosting, console access is available Primary MX, IPSec endpoint Upgrade was tricky, because IPSec tunnel was brought down during the upgrade. It went up, but I was required to bounce sshd from the console nevertheless. Replaced sysvinit with systemd-sysv

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Jean-François Bachelet" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Août 2021 18:13:00 > Objet: Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur > serveur :-( > > Hello Bernard ^^) > > > Le 22/08/2021 à 17:36, Bernard

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello Bernard ^^) Le 22/08/2021 à 17:36, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Bonjour Jean-Fransoué, Je te conseille de monter d'un cran en n'employant plus le ftp directement, voici le tutoriel qui te permettra d'augmenter la sécurité :

Re: Debian 10.7 no me actualiza.

2021-08-22 Thread JavierDebian
El 21/8/21 a las 13:27, Aristobulo Pinzon escribió: Buenas Tardes apreciados colaboradores. Debian 10.7 no me actualiza. Me da estos mensajes y no logro saber que debo hacer, si cambiar los repositorios del sources.list y colocar que? para seguir con buster uos meses más. muchas gracias por

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:04:46PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If neither of these is the case, then I'd try: > > apt-cache polisy kodi kodi-bin # just to get some information Wow, today must be Typoday. "policy" of course.

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 05:37:52PM +0200, Tristan Miller wrote: > # apt install kodi gnome-control-center > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Reading state information... Done > kodi is already the newest version (2:19.1+dfsg2-2). > Some packages could not be

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-22 at 11:37, Tristan Miller wrote: > Greetings. > > On 22/08/2021 17.20, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 2021-08-22 at 10:46, Tristan Miller wrote: >>> On my bullseye system, it doesn't seem to be possible to install both >>> kodi and gnome-control-center as they conflict with each other.

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
re re Hello ^^) Le 22/08/2021 à 17:27, Jean-François Bachelet a écrit : re hello ^^) note : la seule et unique différence par rapport à l'ancienne conf sous buster c'est 'multiline RCF2228 on' qui est passé à 'off' par défaut # Disable MultilineRFC2228 per

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Tristan Miller
Greetings. On 22/08/2021 17.20, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-08-22 at 10:46, Tristan Miller wrote: On my bullseye system, it doesn't seem to be possible to install both kodi and gnome-control-center as they conflict with each other. (See below for what happens when I've got kodi installed and

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Bonjour Jean-Fransoué, Je te conseille de monter d'un cran en n'employant plus le ftp directement, voici le tutoriel qui te permettra d'augmenter la sécurité : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-proftpd-to-use-sftp-instead-of-ftp et pour faire passer la pilule

Re: multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
re hello ^^) Le 22/08/2021 à 17:20, Jean-François Bachelet a écrit : Hello folks ^^) bon, le passage de buster à bullseye sur serveur ne se fait pas sans problèmes :( dabort, mon proftpd ne voulait pas se mettre à jour : résolu en désinstallant tout proftpd (plus rien ne faisant

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 22. August 2021, 09:42:20 CEST schrieb Emanuel Berg: Just a little hint: On my EEEPC for example, pwmconfig and fancontrol did not work, as it is loading the wrong module. This can be fixed with a kernel param, that let load another kernel module, which is supporting pwmconfig and

Re: FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI)

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
The Wanderer wrote: >> There is a grub-coreboot package, is that it? > > No. If you look at the output of > > $ apt-cache show coreboot > > you'll see that it says > > "This is a dependency package for a version of GRUB that has > been built for use with platforms running the > Coreboot

multiples problèmes avec proftpd depuis upgrade bullseye sur serveur :-(

2021-08-22 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello folks ^^) bon, le passage de buster à bullseye sur serveur ne se fait pas sans problèmes :( dabort, mon proftpd ne voulait pas se mettre à jour : résolu en désinstallant tout proftpd (plus rien ne faisant référence à lui sur le serveur) puis install proftpd-basic qui appelle

Re: kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-22 at 10:46, Tristan Miller wrote: > Dear all, > > On my bullseye system, it doesn't seem to be possible to install both > kodi and gnome-control-center as they conflict with each other. (See > below for what happens when I've got kodi installed and then try to > install

kodi and gnome-control-center conflict on bullseye

2021-08-22 Thread Tristan Miller
Dear all, On my bullseye system, it doesn't seem to be possible to install both kodi and gnome-control-center as they conflict with each other. (See below for what happens when I've got kodi installed and then try to install gnome-control-center.) Is this a known issue that affects others,

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-22 Thread David Wright
On Sun 22 Aug 2021 at 13:18:38 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 05:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 20 Aug 2021 at 14:13:55 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > > There is also no explanation in term.log, syslog or dpkg.log for the > > > second interruption: > > > > > > -- >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 04:02:48PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, > > one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM > > That's what you get with the 4th wire/pin? A sensor to > read RPM? Re-read the

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor > > (fan). to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I disagree. [...] > I have no idea what the motherboard/fan manufacturers actually do, though. Voltage reduction is a tradional method to

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-22 at 10:00, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >>> Or what's this about fan-divisors? >>> >>> You may also need to increase the fan divisors. >>> See doc/fan-divisors for more information. >>> >> See *doc/fan-divisors* for more information. > >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 22, 2021 09:41:59 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor > > (fan). > > I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, one

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
didier gaumet wrote: >> Okay, but is that even possible? > > Yes. If you want more details, read the previous link to an > explanation of differences between 3 and 4 pins connectors: > there are pictures to illustrate different possible > combinations between 3 or 4 pins fan connectors and 3 or 4

Re: Debian 10.7 no me actualiza.

2021-08-22 Thread fernando sainz
El sáb, 21 ago 2021 a las 18:45, Aristobulo Pinzon () escribió: > > Buenas Tardes apreciados colaboradores. > Debian 10.7 no me actualiza. Me da estos mensajes y no logro saber que > debo hacer, si cambiar los repositorios del sources.list y colocar > que? para seguir con buster uos meses más. >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > Like I already wrote, modifying voltage doesn't change speed of a motor > (fan). I disagree. The thing poses [1] as a DC motor (2 pins power, one tacho). I don't think you get too much control over RPM, but

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
didier gaumet wrote: > Here is your motherboard user manual [...] > https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_manual > Look at 3.2.3 section for fan control OK! > I could be entirely wrong but what I would imagine is that > fan control is by default

Re: FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI) (was: Re: smart fans)

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 2:28 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > Reco wrote: > >>> This made me think, is there a FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI) that you >>> can install/flash to replace the manufacturer's? >> >> Coreboot is what you're thinking of. Supported motherboard's >> list is extremely limited though. > > There is

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 5:49 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > didier gaumet wrote: > >>> Okay, but is that even possible? >> >> Yes. If you want more details, read the previous link to an >> explanation of differences between 3 and 4 pins connectors: >> there are pictures to illustrate different possible >>

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 5:27 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > didier gaumet wrote: > >> Here is your motherboard user manual [...] >> https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_manual >> Look at 3.2.3 section for fan control > > OK! > >> I could be entirely wrong

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 4:39 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> The significant difference in practice is that 4-pin fans >> allow for RPM to change based on the need for cooling >> temperature, this reduces noise and power consumption. >> While 3-pin can control the

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-22 4:36 a.m., Emanuel Berg wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> I think you got all the information at hand now. > > pwmconfig fails but the error message doesn't add up. > > Or what's this about fan-divisors? > > You may also need to increase the fan divisors. >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > The significant difference in practice is that 4-pin fans > allow for RPM to change based on the need for cooling > temperature, this reduces noise and power consumption. > While 3-pin can control the voltage, but the voltage can't > turn to change the fan

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > You can only throttle it when you go into a close to stop. > But this is really ineffective way of trying to control the > speed. You'll be running at at most a hundred rpm. But then why doesn't pwmconfig ask for 4-pin fans? It asks for 3-pin fans so

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I think you got all the information at hand now. pwmconfig fails but the error message doesn't add up. Or what's this about fan-divisors? You may also need to increase the fan divisors. See doc/fan-divisors for more information. -- underground

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > Whether three-pin fans can be even be RPM controlled is an > open question (the DC feed could be modulated, I guess, but > I don't know whether it is actually done). But then wouldn't pwmconfig ask for something other than 3-pin, perhaps something I don't have? -- underground

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-22 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 13:18, Gareth Evans wrote: > On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 05:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 20 Aug 2021 at 14:13:55 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > > On Fri 20 Aug 2021, at 04:45, David Wright > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 07:42:56 (+0100), Gareth Evans

Re: FOSS "BIOS" (UEFI) (was: Re: smart fans)

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
BIOS seems to be: $ sudo dmidecode -t bios # dmidecode 3.3 Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs. SMBIOS 3.2.0 present. Handle 0x, DMI type 0, 26 bytes BIOS Information Vendor: American Megatrends Inc. Version: 2801 Release Date: 09/18/2019 Address: 0xF

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-22 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sun 22 Aug 2021, at 05:36, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 20 Aug 2021 at 14:13:55 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > On Fri 20 Aug 2021, at 04:45, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 07:42:56 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > > $ apt policy pitivi > > pitivi: > > Installed:

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> This would be the first thing to clear. If your hardware >>> doesn't play along... game over :-/ >> >> Yeah, but if so, why doesn't it? > > Why doesn't it? Because it is not implemented, because the > builder of your motherboard made this choice... > >

Re: smart fans

2021-08-22 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: >> There are no working fan sensors, all readings are 0. >> Make sure you have a 3-wire fan connected. > ^^ > Well? I'm sure! > This would be the first thing to clear. If your hardware > doesn't play along... game over :-/ Yeah, but if so, why doesn't it?

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