Re: keyword filtering or bayes, WAS- Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 01:29:32PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: I'm not sure that original post was as much spam as inappropriate or a troll.. I agree. It was mostly just inappropriate. And it lacked a lot of the key signs of spam so even a well trained spam filter would likely have missed

Re: [OT] XMonad (was: sid/xinerama: how to start app on specific screen)

2008-01-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 04:46:03PM +0100, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Quoth Tzafrir Cohen: http://packages.qa.debian.org/xmonad It shows that the package has not mingrated to Lenny yet as it depends on haskell-x11-extras. That, in turn, has an RC bug that the maintainer won't bother

Re: keyboard shortcuts and X / WM / DE

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote: Hi, I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I can't figure out what is going on. I created a new theme and added some keyboard

Re: keyboard shortcuts and X / WM / DE

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:34:03PM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:18:15 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote: Hi, I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm trying

Re: Question about - The following packages have been kept back:

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 08:08:58PM +0100, Robert Cates wrote: Hi all, I've got a general question concerning apt-get - what would be the reason(s) for the below message when I upgrade my packages? That message mean that a newer version of the package is available but for some reason it

Re: keyboard shortcuts and X / WM / DE

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:21:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:28:21 + Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar on 29/01/08 01:02, wrote: I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly

Re: sid/xinerama: how to start app on specific screen

2008-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: ... I'm running XMonad and that's all this is pretty easy, just one line in the config. But as this is really very specific to your WM I'm afraid there's no way of handling all this in a generic way. Hey Aleks, I'm

Re: print a sample of all fonts?

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:46:57PM +, T o n g wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:53:56 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: is there a way to have gimp or whatever print a sample of each font on the system without manually writing them all out? tia. Both answers so far seems to me

Re: upgrading X in sid

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, charlie derr wrote: I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been working fine for the past year an a half. This weekend I upgraded (which included both X and kde) in unstable/sid and now I find that my X session is being

Re: upgrading X in sid

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:04:32PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, charlie derr wrote: I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been working fine for the past year an a half. This weekend I upgraded

Re: Cannot update kernel

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Debian Etch on a white box AMD machine with 1GB RAM, I cannot update the system. This is what I get: myhome:/home/zeev# apt-get update ... Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/non-free Packages Fetched 6861kB in 1m33s (73.1kB/s)

Re: Pulseaudio to replace ESD in lenny?

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:32:38PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Jan 26, 2008 8:03 PM, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RH 8 has switched to pulseaudio, SUSE is considering it. I was wondering what was on the mind of the Debian developers. Are they considering switching to it at some

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:23:10PM +, T o n g wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:59:35 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Instead of complaining pointlessly, maybe you could have said something like: . . . Sorry about my attitude, I was very disappointed that I carefully wrote the OP

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 05:04:50AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse

Re: Cable Modem setup

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:03:52AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Most, if not all, cable modems are easily configured for use with Linux So please check me if what I think is right: 1. The box has an (presently unused) ethernet port and lspci shows it: 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA

Re: exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 10:25:35AM +0100, Daniel Haude wrote: Hello, Due a to an error in my /etc/exim4/passwd.client, quite a bit of mail was refused by the remote SMTP relay host. I now fixed it but can't find the messages any more. Does exim dump them? I still have them in my sent-mail

Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 04:05:38PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: I have a usb memory stick which I successfully used for a netinst several months ago. When I connected it today it was recognized as sg1 but it was not recognized as a block device when I tried to mount it. well, if the

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the keyboard, or if the same problem exists there what does xev use?

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 04:48:18PM +, T o n g wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:47:15 -0900, Ken Irving wrote: I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls. source ~/.bashrc Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without even reading my

Re: Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 02:58:11PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Dan H. wrote: Hello, When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However, exim

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
to demonstrate more appropriate responses below: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:40:12PM +, T o n g wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:32:57 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls. Ken said: source ~/.bashrc Guess that I am

Re: Accessing a TV adapter via my network

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 05:19:10PM +, Barry Samuels wrote: I would like to get a Hauppauge WinTV Nova T 500 adapter which I understand works with Linux. Unless they've changed recently, this card should work. It has onboard mpeg2 compression which means that you can capture on it with a

Re: Symple method to transfer some packages from Desktop system to laptop Debian Etch system?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: ... I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection, and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso, but laptop has not network connection. Is it a method how to copy some more debian

Re: How to get the life time of a given disk ?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 03:28:26AM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote: Hello,.. I would like to get the life time of hard disk (how much he worked in hours or speens or whatever) i tried using hdparam but it didn't show this info. try smartctl smartctl -a /dev/hdb SMART Attributes Data

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: ... But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is nothing you can do but pull

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question:

2008-01-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote: (8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3? no to either /boot should not be a single partition by itself.. it is part of /bin, /lib, /sbin /etc

Re: Question about sending local email to gmail

2008-01-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:47:20PM +0100, Mr Shunz wrote: ... If with Verizon's SMTP works, to me is just a sign that gmail simply blocks your ip. This is highly likely if you're trying to run a mail server from within a dynamic ip block. And more and more big providers are doing this because

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 03:59:35PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: Back to my first problem, debconf doesn't reconfigure itself after the purge. Here is the sequence of events, pvalex:~# debconf-show pvrfs * pvrfs/partition: /dev/hda2 pvalex:~# apt-get --purge remove pvrfs Reading package

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: Hello! I am planning on installing a new Etch server. What I would like is to use 3xSATA2 disks to create a RAID5 array. During the install I know I can create md RAID devices from the partition tables I set up identically on the

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:21:12PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: Hi Andrew, Thanks for your answer. I had been playing with the debconf configuration changing priority values, to no avail. The current configuration is: debconf-apt-progress/info: debconf-apt-progress/preparing: *

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:48:25PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: Hello! I am planning on installing a new Etch server. What I would like is to use 3xSATA2 disks to create a RAID5 array. During

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:57:39PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: On Jan 17, 2008 11:33 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:48:25PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 03:50:42PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: Hi, Is it possible to force debconf to forget about a package configuration on removal, or to always ask the configuration questions on install? I'm sure there is a way to do the second, and there is a debconf-doc package you

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Ulrich Schweitzer wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008 05:34:28 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I always hated that STOP AHEAD thing. I always figured if you are close enough to the words that it mattered which one you drove over first, you aren't

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being turned into a newt. ;) Only if 'es not dead yet. Or been eaten by a swallow

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 06:24:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for general advice/tips/admonitions of doom. I'm getting ready to build a file server and I want to have some data redundancy. I've ordered four 350G SATA drives and I plan to put them into some kind of RAID 5

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:58:09AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Two. No, seven! Arg. You made me lose count! oh come on. Everyone

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:24:52AM +, I.E.Broadbent wrote: blimey ... what's next folks, arguing Gulliver-style about which end of the egg to open? oh please. Don't start that old flame-war again! Everyone knows it's the small end. ... Can we kill this OT subject now please?

Re: [OT] Stop Ahead (was top posting)

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:36:26PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:34:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: There's probably a reason I'm not a traffic engineer. my thoughts as well ;-) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: debian-user help idea

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi there, I would like to say some of my very humble opinions. 1. We should concentrate our efforts on Wiki pages, cause they seem to me unmaintaned and outdated :/... and on other ONLINE resources as well I don't disagree with

Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote: Paul Csanyi wrote: Hello! I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1. I am using for this two sata drives. Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid? Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use

Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 05:23:53PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: 2008/1/15, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote: Paul Csanyi wrote: I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1. I am using for this two sata

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 04:57:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 16:46, Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the peasants. Small rocks float. So though she may

Re: capacitor plague; was Re: Debian on IBM NetVista Type 6578-RAU

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:33:01PM -0500, KS wrote: Henry Luciano wrote: *sigh*, multiple times. The hardest thing is removing the old caps and desoldering the holes, but all in all it's not that bad. Keep the iron hot enough to melt the solder but not hot enough to damage the trace.

Re: ifconfig don't list interfaces

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
2008/1/13, Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Osamu gave a suggestion about how to get more useable output by changing the language to english. This would make it easier for this list to help. He(she?) also asked a couple of relevant questions that could point to a solution to the problem On Sun,

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:44:57AM +0900, Peter F Bradshaw wrote: Ok. Fine. Until you guys grow up this list is going to /dev/null. If people don't stop complaining and leaving this list, then I'm going to complain and leave! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:06:33PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: snip Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you pass over the first word in the statement before the second. Well put! :-)

Re: Etch: emacs or emac21?

2008-01-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:58:38PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi, Debian users. In Sarge there was only the package `emacs21'. Now in Etch we have also `emacs', but the difference between the two is not clear to me. What should I install in order to use the Emacs editor, `emacs' or

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this

Re: ipw3945 takes a while to warm up???

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:21:08AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: A few days ago, in the middle of a spam storm, I wrote: Hi list I'm running etch on a Toshiba Satellite laptop I picked up about a year ago now in Hong Kong. It's on my home wireless LAN supported by a Buffalo

Re: How to filter out mailing list spam with bogofilter

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:31:48PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 09 January 2008 22:03, John Hasler wrote: Nigel Henry writes: I am genuinly trying to resolve the problem of filtering out spam, that occasionally turns up on mailing lists. As I've said bogofilter works fine

Re: mdadm problem creating device

2008-01-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:04:15AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.06.2351 +0100]: OP is building a deprecated (I think that's the term) array. degraded, actually. I new it was something like that. Thanks madduck A signature.asc

Re: gnucash in Sarge crashes when opening file; started after recent security updates

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:59:29PM +0100, Tomasz Szpakowicz wrote: Hello. I need help with gnucash 1.8.10 in Sarge. I have a gnucash file (written with the same gnucash on the same system) containing one year of data. And I can't open it. Gnucash says 'Segmentation fault'. you really need

Re: mdadm problem creating device

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 03:38:29PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 02:53:57PM -0500, S Scharf wrote: I installed a new disk and am trying to create a one disk raid 1 on it (and will add the second disk later) but when I run mdadm I get the followng: $ sudo

Re: gnucash in Sarge crashes when opening file; started after recent security updates

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 12:34:24AM +0100, Tomasz Szpakowicz wrote: Thanks for your answer. But no scheduled transactions. I know I won't get much help with such an old version. That's why I asked on debian-users if someone has similar problems. Security updates where the only changes to

Re: Hacking the OLPC XO

2008-01-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:29:55PM -0500, phillinux wrote: Did anyone here work on the OLPC XO project??? I'm a teacher who would be interested in adapting the XO for secondary school students. I would need to get a lightweight version of open office running on that machine. Is the XO GUI

Re: Kernel issues due to identical network cards

2008-01-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 11:06:31PM +0100, David MAGNY wrote: Hello, I am upgrading a firewall from Sarge to Etch. On this machine, I have 3 network cards. 2 networks cards are identical. It is PCI network cards and it is SMC1233A-TX. On Sarge, everything worked well. The issue is

Re: Waiting for root file system problem

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 06:24:07AM -0500, dave N wrote: dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I've installed Etch r1 and the only real thing I've done to the system is updated the system, though during the update it updated the kernel to the same kernel that was installed during the

Re: character encoding

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:50:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:08:24PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Dec 31, 2007 1:41 PM, ChadDavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run 'ls' on a given directory, some of the file names show a question mark in the place of

Re: DVD driver

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 05:08:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 4:09 PM, hce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there *is* a DVD driver, per se. There's the UDF fs driver, though. You might mean that. To be hornest, I am not clear how the DVD system works. Is the DVD

Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:58:22AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:49:43 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:58:03AM +, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session startup ... Setting 1M through

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:52:16PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks

Re: Where did 'locate' go?

2007-12-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 04:57:17PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:07:51 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, all: On a recently updated testing system, I went to use 'locate' to find something, and it's not found. Is my system somehow hosed or did

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 06:53:08AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140903-c,netscape/article.html yeah, it's kinda sad, but at the same time, my memory of Netscape is always kind of unpleasant. I remember struggling to get it to work properly and convince others

Re: Vá : Using wdm how to pass -- -logverbose 6 to startx?

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 05:05:30PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: 2007/12/28, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your Xorg.0.log looks fine to me. So what exactly happens when you type startx? maybe you don't have a window manager selected? How have you selected your window manager

Re: Vá : Using wdm how to pass -- -logverbose 6 to startx?

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:02:46PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: 2007/12/28, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: WHat window manager do you want to use? I want to use Window Maker. What is the output of (as root): update-alternatives --config x-window-manager There is only 1

Re: compatibility problems

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 04:05:58PM -0800, Don Harwood wrote: ...snip confusing quoting... yes i am a total newbie to the linux world, the reason i chose debian is because the cnc system is debian, after doing some minor research into it i decided to keep it simple {yeah right} i will make

Re: mkinitrd.yaird failed to create initrd image

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 05:19:45PM +0100, Paul van Gelder wrote: Hi, I tried to install linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 and get this as output: Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-17) ... Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-amd64/source

Re: Aptitude installation

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 01:06:52PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:40:53 -0800 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/27/07, Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may or may not be related to your problem, but you would probably be better off using

Re: Using wdm how to pass -- -logverbose 6 to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:10:58PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: Hello! My displaymanager is wdm on Debian Etch system. Because my X Window crashes frequently (nvidia driver woth GeForce 7600 GT card and Intel Core 2 Duo CPU), I must to investigate the reason. I must to start X Window

Re: Using wdm how to pass -- -logverbose 6 to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:18:34PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:49:41 -0800 keltezéssel Andrew Sackville-West azt írta: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:10:58PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: ... I must to start X Window with: startx -- -logverbose 6 but can't. I can only

Re: Using wdm how to pass -- -logverbose 6 to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:09:09PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: 2007/12/27, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:18:34PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:49:41 -0800 keltezéssel Andrew Sackville-West azt írta: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:10

Re: locked screen

2007-12-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 05:34:08PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Wed December 26 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: I've never seen this screen on the other login, and they are setup identically ( by me). My screensaver is turned OFF, and it doesn't have a password for the screensaver.

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 08:08:07PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:35:22PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: But now that the damage is done, I don't have much advice. Probably your best bet is to move up to sarge manually replacing packages as needed to remove

Re: Can't logout before command finished

2007-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:36:58AM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:44:00PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On 2007-12-20 07:55:21 -0600, Kent West wrote: Is not screen another solution? (I'm not terribly familiar with screen, but I

Re: Can't logout before command finished

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:55:16PM +0800, H.H. Ding wrote: hi list I ssh to remote host, then run a program and put it to background, then I try to logout, but bash paused and wait until the program finished. How can I logout immeditaly? nohup perhaps? A signature.asc Description:

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:34:20AM -0800, epic winter wrote: Ok, but how do i get out of the deadlock? I can't use apt at all right now. probably take stable, testing and unstable out of your sources.list and apt* update would do it. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
putting this back on the list. please don't reply to me directly. you'll get much more help if everyone can see what's going on. On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:43:56AM -0800, epic winter wrote: Back in hell. sorry to hear that. i thought that fixed it, but now it seems that the gcc/libc version

Re: apt-get install php4-mysql

2007-12-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:50:49PM -0800, Jeppe wrote: Hi there, First of all, I´m new to Debian and especially the apt-thing. hi welcome, etc. DOn't worry, you'll soon be fully indoctrinated ;) I was going to try to enable apache2 with mysql. I already have a Postgres-DB but now for

Re: FreeAgent USB HDD (update)

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:01:54PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 9:18 PM, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rebooted and then once I went into the filesystem I saw that the system recognised it, but did not automount it. This is something that I have noticed in the last while -

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot resolved

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:54:49PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: The problem is operator (that's me) stupidity. I have an overloaded find so I can say find foo and have it mean find . -name foo -print mkinitramfs uses find . | cpio to build the initrd.img ooh, interesting. I wouldn't have

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 08:37:42AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:57:15 -0500 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Douglas, Anybody remember the Timex/Sinclair 1000? It has a pure membrane AKA the Sinclair ZX-81, in the UK. First computer I owned. I

Re: aptitude has poor exit status behaviour

2007-12-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +, Nick Boyce wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:24:15AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: (Etch) aptitude's error handling [cough] falls short of optimum behaviour. In particular it returns an exit status of zero in various

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot

2007-12-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:36:42PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: Marc Auslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running etch on a Dell with ide drives, using LILO I just used aptitude to install the latest security update to the 2.6.18 kernel, 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5 The install produced a

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot

2007-12-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 04:22:10PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: On 12/13/2007 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: the command will be something like mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.18-version-arch -k 2.6.18-version-arch be sure to move the other one aside first. and since you're using lilo, make

Re: network modules loading?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:09:16AM -0500, Dave wrote: Hello, Newbie to Debian. I've got a 4.0 system with two nics in it, one a realtek 8139, the other a 3com 3c905. One is configured via dhcp, the other will be via static. I read that /etc/modules contains the names of kernel drivers

Re: Files/directories dated 2012?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:24:57AM -0800, Robert Bond wrote: I ran apt-get update on my etch system yesterday. It has been a while so 40+ packages showed up to be upgraded. I installed them... Most of it appeared to be Open Office upgrades. The upgrade blew up. I tracked the problem down to

Re: back to basics: what's wrong with this exim condition statement?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:03:29PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: nevermind - I finally figured it out... do tell Bob! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: aptitude has poor exit status behaviour

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:24:15AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: In the course of scripting some aptitude upgrade activity I've found that (Etch) aptitude's error handling [cough] falls short of optimum behaviour. In particular it returns an exit status of zero in various failure situations, which

Re: System Lockup

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:50:26PM +0100, strawks wrote: I just experienced my first ever system lockup. No mouse, no keyboard with an Iceape screen open. I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. Did you

Re: Wating for root file system. Kernel bug?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:13:49PM +0200, wanderlust wrote: Hello. I'm trying to install Debian/etch on Acer Aspire 5520G, but the problem is, that kernel 2.6.18 doesn't support Marvell netcard 436b. I found it is supportable in 2.6.23.9, so I decided to compile it. I used default

Re: backup script partly fails when in cron.weekly

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:24:07AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: Benjamin Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But maybe you should not use this (in my opinion) unusual command find / -print Instead use tar, like: tar -zcvf /media/mirror/`date +%F`.tar.gz -C / --exclude=/media/*

Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Im running sid on my LinuxCertified lappy. It came with ubuntu installed, which I wiped and replaced with debian on top of enxrypted lvm. Works great. Everything works but suspend2ram. I could probably make it work, but it's not worth it. I just shut it down. A signature.asc Description:

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hi, To enter GNOME, I type startx. I tried entering KDE by typing startkde which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when I last tried it. But it can't start X. startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:31:40PM -0600, Kent West wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the default window manager is. Look at `update-alternatives --config x

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:18:55AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Dec 7, 2007, at 10:27 PM, Nate Duehr wrote: Humbug. If you learned hot to type *properly* on a real IBM Selectric (hint: you never pushed the key down past the click, certainly never to the stops), using a clicky keyboard

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:16:47AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: How about the Atari 800 (or was it the 400?) that had the bare membrane. ugh. now that was crap! Fortunately I never had the displeasure of using one of those. I did

Re: buying TV card

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:52:10PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:43:38AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: ---deleted--- so its not strictly etch. Also, these cards include hardware mpeg encoding which can be a blessing and a curse, depending on your

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