On Thursday 30 October 2014 19:46:26 Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
* Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de [2014-10-30 10:27 +0100]:
Dear maintainers,
completely without starting any flamewars:
I am using systemd and I have /usr mounted on a separate partition as well
as /var, /home, /boot and /.
On Thursday 30 October 2014 10:27:50 Hans wrote:
Dear maintainers,
completely without starting any flamewars:
I am using systemd and I have /usr mounted on a separate partition as well
as /var, /home, /boot and /.
Additionally /usr, /var and /home are luks encrypted.
Due to this
On Thursday 30 October 2014 15:35:53 Peter Nieman wrote:
On 30/10/14 11:35, David Baron wrote:
I think this problem should be resolved. I know the newer desirable
keeping of /usr on /. However, I would bet 99% of existing
multi-partition Debian installations have usr on a separate partition
I come to this list for new, advice, discussion on Debian installation,
software, packages, problems, advice. It has help and saved my skin (system)
times in the past. Do not read every word of every post but those of interest
as this is a very active list. Some claim systemd has ruined Debian.
On Sunday 28 September 2014 15:59:33 PaulNM wrote:
On 09/28/2014 03:26 PM, Carlo wrote:
2014-09-28 20:31 GMT+02:00 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il:
Here 'tis: ~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier
I am NOT complaining about systemd. Booted quickly as usual, and just fine.
However: Very early on, their were two FAILED notices which I did were lost
too quickly to read, The boot went out of the quiet mode and then proceeded
just fine (with all the startup text).
Dmesg shows nothing
On Sunday 21 September 2014 22:26:16 Martin Read wrote:
On 21/09/14 20:41, David Baron wrote:
On Sunday 21 September 2014 20:24:08 Martin Read wrote:
Application software usually initializes its internal pseudorandom
number generator using inputs like the current system time. Since you
Seems to be dominating a good part of the list traffic.
Personal history: I never had qualms about upgrading the old sysv stuff. If
something did not work, it was some script which I could a least try to fix.
The whole init sequence was RUNPARTS off various run-level directories
containing
On my 64 bit Sid box, seems that certain applications/games come up the same
every execution. Would normally expect a random pattern.
This is not all of them but many.. Which random generators should be
installed, now seeded/configures?
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On Sunday 21 September 2014 20:24:08 Martin Read wrote:
On 21/09/14 20:14, David Baron wrote:
On my 64 bit Sid box, seems that certain applications/games come up the
same every execution. Would normally expect a random pattern.
This is not all of them but many.. Which random generators
This has a huge amount of data, 1.5 gig. It is not possible to install on
using partitions set up by Debian installer.
An alternative installation modus for Flightgear is in order, however. There
is no need for that data to fill up /usr or to install in one go and run out of
/var space. Whole
Had my old 32-bit configuration lilo boot-selectable between Nouveau and Nvidia
drivers using nomodeset command. An init script detected presence or absence
of nomodeset, and exchanged xorg.conf files, was set to be run before any Xorg.
My new 64bit has the defaulted Nouveau which is just fine
On Sunday 24 August 2014 11:45:40 Stephen Powell wrote:
Hello, list.
I just thought I'd pass along something that I recently discovered.
When using sysvinit as the init system, if the file /etc/rc.local
exists and is executable, it will be invoked at the tail end of the
boot process. But
On Sunday 17 August 2014 00:49:16 Floris wrote:
What wine packages do you have installed?
wine
wine64
wine32:i386
Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had
around
would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked.
Just to be
On Monday 11 August 2014 08:36:23 The Wanderer wrote:
On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote:
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly
old. Seems to be no way to run them.
Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of
all
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old.
Seems to be no way to run them.
Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:36:51 Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems
to be no way to run them.
Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all this
complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 will not work.
Even if there is no such folder (I
On my previous 32-bit system, I would get fsck run on filesystems every so-many
mounts. Was using ext3 with some ext4 extensions. Could take a bit on multi-
hundred gig partitions but assumed a necessity to keep things playing.
On my new 64-bit system with ext4 filesystems, I have yet to see
With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to
rapidly to read.
Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now
have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf entry to
control/eliminate the text playback?
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On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:13:13 Sven Hartge wrote:
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen
to rapidly to read.
Remove quit from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, run
update-grub.
S°
Thanks, but I
On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:27:44 Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:36:43 +0300
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the
screen to rapidly to read.
Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back
... and the plot thickens ...
Offered for upgrade today are a bunch of old-style?? init components,
initscripts, sysv-rc, etc.
Interesting bug-entries:
Initscripts -- treat separate /usr like / paralleling entries for initramfs
tools, nothing recent ins sysv... stuff.
Still relevant?
On Thursday 07 August 2014 16:05:40 Brian wrote:
The number of bugs on
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=systemd;dist=unstable
doesn't seen that high for a package of its importance and visibility.
Most reports have had a response. Some reports are not bugs.
If you
An amazing amount of discussion here.
Need to make a decision: Upgrade the systemd and udev version to 208-6 or sit
on the 204-14. This is working fine it seems, and bugs against the 208 are
piling up. Nothing however that blares: your system is now unbootable, but
that is what I fear.
Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not
quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play.
The Debian installer itself will place /usr on it own partition/filesystem. So
what gives?
Is it now required that /usr be on on part of the root filesystem?
On Sunday 03 August 2014 08:46:59 Joe wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:59:17 +0300
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was
simply not quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play.
The Debian installer itself
On Thursday 31 July 2014 15:24:03 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 30.07.2014 23:16, David Baron a écrit :
This baby seems to start up for no reason, slowing whatever was being
done at
the time. Have to manually kill it.
Somewhere to set its priorities, i.e. nice it?
I'm
1. Now that I have / on a large enough place to not worry over it (and /opt
and /usr/local are bound to folders on the over-sized home partition), now
time to deal with /var. Given a mere 2.7g, enough for a couple of KDE users
and a number of apt downloads. Can easily go over 90% for large
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 02:52:38 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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When you reply threading is broken. Surely you can see that. Could be
kmail of course.
Replying from the digest breaks threads. I eschew KDE 4, so I don't know
about KMail in KDE4, but KDE3 KMail does
This baby seems to start up for no reason, slowing whatever was being done at
the time. Have to manually kill it.
Somewhere to set its priorities, i.e. nice it?
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On Tuesday 29 July 2014 16:23:21 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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system_notification is qualified by the mailname, dovidhalevi.homelinux.net.
dovidhalevi.homelinux.net is regarded as a local domain. The mail is routed
and transported by procmail.
Sure looks in order.
On Sunday 27 July 2014 23:45:44 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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/etc/mailname
localhost.localdomain
This is the first answer on the reconfig, probably should not be this?
This is not ok. Exim uses what is in /etc/mailname to qualify an address
without a
On Sunday 27 July 2014 23:45:44 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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My older 1-terra drive has bad blocks. I can partition around them and use
it but one a disk has begun to ... well, maybe best to junk it.
Wipe and recycle it.
Disk has one region (that I know of) with
On Monday 28 July 2014 15:21:36 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Now, if I simply send to a user, the mail will be delivered.
If I simply send to root, it gets correctly aliased over to
system_notifications, but then gets returned!
So original problem remains !?!
On Monday 28 July 2014 17:38:14 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Are you sure there is a route from (i) whichever machine has the alias
record, and (ii) whichever machine is reached, on port 25, at the IP
address in an MX record at
dovidhalevi.homelinux.net
or, if there
On Monday 28 July 2014 17:38:14 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Disk has one region (that I know of) with errors.
I can partition so this region is not used.
Is there some utility to repair it?
Is this sickness like to spread?
You first have to determine *precisely*
Question: How do I tell grub about new /, new /boot, etc.?? Seems to
be mostly automatic with little documentation. Or do I go back to
lilo which I at least know how to configure :-)?
If you're mucking about with an existing system and need to update the
existing grub installation,
Cannot send mail to user@localhost.localdomain. Fully formed address will
work.
Applications such as rkhunter and cron-apt that send mail to root--mail is not
received. There is a system_notification user and root is aliased to this.
Explicit send to root using mail fails regardless of whether
Cannot send mail to user@localhost.localdomain. Fully formed address will
work.
What is a Fully formed address? Please post here the contents of
Something with real name@hostname.domainname rather than
localhost.localdomain.
/etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
It's actually /lib/modules that takes up the space, and of course this
has to be under / for booting. I have a server in this position, which
had an adequately-sized / and separate /usr and /var when installed.
350MB used to be more than enough for a / which didn't contain /home,
/usr or
On Thursday 24 July 2014 22:49:01 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Going by the subject, I'd say wipe your system drive and do another
install, using what you have learned to do it better.
A better option is to install onto a spare drive, so that you can boot
the old
Yes, indeed. I previously complained about its partitioning with little
capability to revise it! (I did not use LVM because it put everything in one
big physical partition which I also did not like.)
So, want to install a more recent kernel? No room.
While I was able to bind /opt and
On Thursday 24 July 2014 11:16:47 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Yes, indeed. I previously complained about its partitioning with little
capability to revise it! (I did not use LVM because it put everything in
one
big physical partition which I also did not like.)
Logcheck, rkhunter and some others send their email notifications to root.
Exim4 does no allow emails to root. So root gets aliased and a couple of other
places are set so that the emails go to another user. I brought the
configuration files over from the old installation.
I have in
On Monday 21 July 2014 05:42:09 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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You can install systemd to try it out before committing to it as your
default init system. Just install 'systemd' but not 'systemd-sysv' and
pass init=/bin/systemd to Linux via your boot manager.
On Monday 21 July 2014 08:45:12 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Didn't a KDE maintainer say during the timeframe of CTTE init bug that
KDE might choose to depend in logind? So your laptop might need the
systemd-shim that depends on cgmanager.
(Using init=/sbin/init on the
How safe are these on new 64bit system (dist-upgraded to Sid)?
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On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by
insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file shown.
Current installation lack this and insert function is problematic at best,
barely usable. Rc-files look the same.
What am I missing?
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Apparently no longer being saved/restored -- systemd foible? Worked before on
32 bit system on old and make-style init.
Trying fake hwclock meanwhile :-)
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As part of my new 64bit installation, I am now on Grub. I am familiar with
Lilo, know how to edit lilo.conf, etc. Of Grube, which I have avoided until
now, I know nothing. No man page either.
Can someone point be to documentation or some simple how-to add/change kernels
and such. Thanks in
After new 64bit install ...
Bash on tty screen shows working directory on prompt. In konsole or yakuake,
does not. I copied by bashrc from the old /etc.
Vi/vim does not have the keymapping that it once had, no display of line
number, etc. Works but without visul clues and insert. replace, etc.
After new 64bit install ...
Bash on tty screen shows working directory on prompt. In konsole or
yakuake, does not. I copied by bashrc from the old /etc.
Actually is working. Home directory is not shown, just anything relative to
it. Other directories show as full paths. I think previous
Continuing to set up my new 64-bit install.
Any attempt to chown -R thisuser:thisuser /home/thisuser/.*
For example,to reset permissions of hidden items, will change ALL users' home
folders, everything. Actually, on the surface, this might seem correct
behavior because of the '.' This is, of
A lot of held packages:
libxfont, libxfont-dev -- remove xfs. Is xfs gone/deprecated? In use at all?
or .. don't do this!
network-manger, ppp,etc -- remove sysvinit-core, install systemd, systemd-
sysv. Do these supersede sysvinit-core or should packages be avoided?
The whole samba business?
These have higher version numbers than those on experimental
Correct.
Safe to install?
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In the same mail an observation was made. It implied that the file
cron-spamassassin-rules was put in /etc/cron.daily by you and not by a
Debian package. Do you have a response to that too?
More ...
There is a locate script in /etc/cron.daily which should be run as a matter or
daily anacron course. Has not been. No entry in syslog. Syslog has not been
daily-logrotated during this period either.
The working part of the locate script can be run manually.
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In another mail you were asked a single question. Do you have a response
to that question?
Stated that machine does not run 24h
In the same mail an observation was made. It implied that the file
cron-spamassassin-rules was put in /etc/cron.daily by you and not by a
Debian package. Do you
I guess, for almost three weeks now.
Running Sid on 686 box.
Anybody know of this?
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I guess, for almost three weeks now.
Running Sid on 686 box.
Anybody know of this?
Is the machine on 24 hours a day?
No
Please post the output of
ps ax | grep cron
4230 ?Ss
Packages have been held back for quite a while now. Attempt to upgrade will
remove a whole bunch of stuff.
What is happening with this?
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Packages have been held back for quite a while now. Attempt to
upgrade will remove a whole bunch of stuff.
What is happening with this?
What do you have? I have samba, samba-common, samba-libs and a few more
packages, all at 2:4.1.6+dfsg-1, which is claimed to be the
Running Sid 32-bit system:
Spamassassin no longer working. Get errors like
server socket setup failed, retry 2: spamd: could not create IO::Socket::INET6
socket on [127.0.0.1]:783: Address already in use
Some lock file I need to manually clear?
Configuration change since upgrade?
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Is it just my very subjective impression or are these significantly faster than
3.12??
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Getting errors like:
Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/PackagesIndex
Hash Sum mismatch
on every source so no packages can be updated!
Running on i386 Sid box. How to fix?
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KMail is a mess right now.
Messages not readable until kmail restart
Broken mail resources until kde restart
etc.
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Followed instructions on Debian SElinux WIKI.
sudo selinux-activate, says OK, may need to reboot.
Reboot, nothing special -- expected file coding and another reboot.
check-selinux-installation, no selinux, no /selinux, nada.
I am NOT using grub and had to place a dummy update-grub
script to
Results like not worth the effort, though it can be done now
as a crossgrade much more easily. I had tried the
dbootstrap method. Almost got there but ... had to
restore.
The main question is whether 32 bit packages will be
gradually phased out. One can already find missing
pieces. If this
These packages are held back right
now because of a changeover from
package:arch to package-arch, it seems.
Ready to play, or should be back off for
a while?
Recent apt-get upgrade was pulling everything from experimental/main. There
may be a package or two that I use from experimental-snapshots for kde, but
otherwise I am plain-vanilla Sid.
Wh
I followed the instructions on
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#Are_cross-grades_possible
Needed one more :amd64 package which I installed, then installed the dpkg-
amd64 successfully.
This worked.
Rebooted to the 64-bit kernel, everything OK.
Did apt-get update.
So now I have 90+
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On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:40:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2013-05-08 20:59 +0200, Brian wrote:
=20
On Wed 08 May 2013 at 20:05:24 +0300, David Baron wrote:
Is there now an in-place method
Is there now an in-place method to upgrade a Debian Sid box to 64 bit?
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On Wed 08 May 2013 at 20:05:24 +0300, David Baron wrote:
Is there now an in-place method to upgrade a Debian Sid box to 64 bit?
Hey, guess what 'upgrade 32 bit debian to 64 bit' brings up in a search
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On Friday 15 March 2013 17:34:22 Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il
wrote:
This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now
On Friday 15 March 2013 17:34:22 Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:
This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now.
Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better.
What is slow? Page rendering? Tab/window
This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now.
Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better.
What gives?
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(Charles Kroeger, Sun Mar 10 20:57:18 2013)
I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for
this device. There are paid services but I don't like the sound of them
and they're
As previously posted, I am definitely running a PAE kernel on a system which
does not benefit from it. Boots no problem.
The CPU probably does support it. The BIOS, however, does not.
Problem is that once this occurs, some things are crippled. After removing the
syslog and daemonlog files, one must usually reboot.
What caused this?
In my case, it was the gpm mouse driver. Simply went wild with wireless mouse.
SO I simply do not use it. The x driver does what I need.
I still get that (harmless) string of warnings to use conntrack instead of the
current, obsolete state match. I have conntract installed. So how do I use
it?
There is actually an nf_conntract I can see in dmesg:
[ 67.093395] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
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This is apparently not at all a rare problem. I put 4gig in my
computer but it only recognizes 3gig.
Please post the output of
dmesg | grep BIOS-e820
This will show the memory map provided by
This is apparently not at all a rare problem. I put 4gig in my computer but it
only recognizes 3gig.
Is there any way for the kernel to bypass/override BIOS and see all the
memory?
I have a strange MB (it has ISA!!) so finding and flashing a new BIOS may not
be possible or desirable. ALL the
I have a 64-bit processor running the 686 kernel and tried in the past, almost
successfully, to migrate this to the full 64 bit. The 64 bit kernel can be
installed, boots and runs fine.
From this thread, I dpkg --add-architecture amd64. Did not change any
upgrades or anything. Just a foreign
Every version upgrade of Dovecot causes config problems (running Sid). I hand
edited the doveconf -n stuff in after choosing to keep my old .conf and not
being able to get the choice again. Got it working, finally.
KMail seems to be getting my imap stuff but get and error box each time:
Error
I get as far as the USB ports.
From there I can get into a root-shell where I must vgmknodes to get my lvm
volumes mounted!
Various other inits like USB capabilities, network (cannot find eth2 device!),
etc., rc.local, are not executed. Problem in udev which I cannot execute
manually:
sudo
A great yasher ko-ach and thanks to those who finally go this sorted out.
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Aren't we all sick of seeing this?
The listings with the messed up headers are next to useless.
The only way to get sane headers is to post on-line, I suppose.
Someone in the Debian universe has to be able to fix this list!
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To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always
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As of late, on my Debian Sid box, every bootup shows recovering journal on
all my ext3 filesystems. There ia often a bunch of orphaned inodes on the
/usr!
It is as if I hit the switch instead of an orderly halt shutdown.
System otherwise is OK.
Bug? Which package? Workaround (tried sync in my
On Sunday 10 June 2012 17:56:58 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
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However, if you have any lingering scripts without any LSB headers,
you'll need to fix them up or remove them to allow dynamic boot
ordering to be enabled. This is obviously not too desirable, since
sudo
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 18:32:55 David Baron wrote:
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 16:59:30 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
David Baron a écrit :
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 02:10:06 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
You can add the missing required modules in
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules and rebuild the initramfs
All the messages appear normally and correctly on the site.
So I must be getting them mangled. No other list, digest or otherwise,
produces this mess. Just debian-user.
Did we recently change over to thie smarlist from more normal list servers
or major domos?
Is there any option that I can
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 02:10:06 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Hello,
David Baron a écrit :
Up until recent upgrades, it worked fine with dep producing initrd of
3.7 meg. After recent upgrades, this no longer worked. Various errors
about rootfs or /root is a folder. The boot would fail
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 16:59:30 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
David Baron a écrit :
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 02:10:06 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
You can add the missing required modules in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
and rebuild the initramfs.
However, with latest initramfs-tools, I do not get
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 20:32:40 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
wrote:
All the messages appear normally and correctly on the site.
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So I must be getting them mangled. No other list, digest or otherwise,=20
produces this mess. Just debian-user.
Maybe you're affected by
Here is the text of what I received:
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:09:14 +0300, David Baron wrote:
All the messages appear normally and correctly on the site.
So I must be getting them mangled. No other list, digest or otherwise,
produces this mess
Up until recent upgrades, it worked fine with dep producing initrd of 3.7
meg. After recent upgrades, this no longer worked. Various errors about rootfs
or /root is a folder. The boot would fail at the tso point. Now have to use
most and get 11 meg initrds, 5 x bigger than the whole kernel
When replying to any of these unknown subject message, please type in a real
subject, i.e. Re: what the message is about.
Maybe this list can be restored to usability.
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