Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone could point me to? (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which package

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-31 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:26:25 Mumia W.. wrote: On 08/29/2007 08:17 AM, Joe Hart wrote: I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of what I am looking for: begin 1.txt This is a test file, what I am trying to do is get the lines to join

Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of what I am looking for: begin 1.txt This is a test file, what I am trying to do is get the lines to join. It isn't a complicated thing, but I also want to keep the paragraphs separate. /end 1.txt I try this command: sed

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 15:48:50 Victor Munoz wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 03:17:46PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of what I am looking for: begin 1.txt This is a test file, what I am trying to do is get

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:36:38 Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 03:17:46PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: begin 1.txt This is a test file, what I am trying to do is get the lines to join. It isn't a complicated thing, but I also want to keep the paragraphs separate

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:01:20 Adam W wrote: Single quotes go around the whole sed script unless you are using a separate sed script file. try sed 's/\n//' 1.txt 2.txt - Adam On 8/29/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 15:17:46 +0200, Joe Hart

Re: fresh kde install

2007-08-27 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 26 August 2007 01:54:43 Joris Huizer wrote: --- L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed etch base system and then installed xorg. I was trying to install kde apt-get install kde kdm I get msg saying . the following packages has unmet dependencies

Re: graphics driver issues

2007-08-24 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 24 August 2007 19:48:31 sworoc wrote: Hi all, I am a college student and am taking a graphics course this fall. I recently built a PC with an AMD64 CPU and a GeForce 6150 on board graphics card. I seem to be having trouble getting it to use the nvidia module, but I'm not sure

Re: kde applications slow starting.

2007-08-21 Thread Joe Hart
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 17:26:40 L.V.Gandhi wrote: Morning every application was working ok. Now all kde applications like kwrite, home etc takes very long time to start. It freezes windows. In oocalc, file open is done quickly from fileopen dialog. If I use recently open it hangs. I thing

Re: Organising MP3 Files into folders

2007-08-17 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 17 August 2007 09:07:23 Jonathan Kaye wrote: Magnus Pedersen wrote: Adam Gray wrote: Basically while backing up my system I used my iPod to back up my music collection, which used to be neatly sorted into folders with artists albums. Then when downloading it again with gtkPod I

Re: Free dive log software?

2007-08-14 Thread Joe Hart
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 14:06:22 Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/14/07 06:23, Richard Hartmann wrote: Is anyone aware of (good) software that allows you to log your dives, your brevets and everything else that relates to diving? KDE/Qt with SQLlite preferred, but I am not too particular on the

Re: Free dive log software?

2007-08-14 Thread Joe Hart
Sending to list where it belongs. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Free dive log software? Date: Tuesday 14 August 2007 From: Richard Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/08/07, Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCUBA (Self Contained Underwater

Re: Installing Sarge problem

2007-08-13 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 13 August 2007 13:44:52 Bob Middaugh wrote: Hi, I'm installing Sarge, installation completes, reboot, set timezone, root pwd, Apt config pick http and debian.lcs.mit.edu. After that, I get the ominious message about overwriting the kernel I'm currently running and how this can be

Re: Installing Sarge problem

2007-08-13 Thread Joe Hart
Sending message back to list: On Monday 13 August 2007 16:23:55 you wrote: -- Original message -- From: Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 13 August 2007 13:44:52 Bob Middaugh wrote: Hi, I'm installing Sarge, installation completes, reboot, set

Re: Passwordless X login

2007-08-09 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:59:55 Dan H wrote: Hello, I'd like to be able to login with just a mouseclick like possible in Windows. My wife and I are sharing a computer at home, and it's kind of silly to always have to type in a password (which is the same for both of us anyway). Is this

Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators

2007-08-05 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 05 August 2007 16:23:12 B.Hoffmann wrote: I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others. It seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows. Although this is only one person's opinion and there is no scientific evidence it just feels faster. -Tom

Re: [OT UPDATE] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-25 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 18:02:49 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently decided to quit. Loss for Linux (and Linus) He now has

Re: Stability issues

2007-07-21 Thread Joe Hart
On Saturday 21 July 2007 14:22:47 Mike Robinson wrote: I've been running Debian testing for about a year-and-a-half. It's been quite stable. I performed a dist-upgrade about two weeks ago. It's been unstable since. By unstable I mean that applications may crash (disappear) and the system

Re: Benefits of using aptitude

2007-07-18 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 21:31:28 Stefan Monnier wrote: Still, if you're used to apt-get, I don't really see a reason to switch. I always recommend aptitude, but never tell users to switch from apt-get on a running system. If I should, please let me know the reasons. The biggest benefit

Re: MP3 + Patent issues in Debian

2007-07-16 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 16 July 2007 10:01:25 Kumar Appaiah wrote: Dear Debian users, While talking about Debian in a LUG meet, someone pointed out that Debian's distributions could play MP3s out-of-the-box (Etch included). This is unlike the Fedora/Ubuntu policy of not making available the (supposedly)

Re: URGENT: my gnome desktop is dead

2007-07-16 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 16 July 2007 12:09:05 Dot Deb wrote: This morning I switched my laptop on, as usual, but after logging in (using gdm), gnome only shows me the tomboy window. No panels, no background, no icons ... Yesterday I regularly switched off the laptop. I did not

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-07-01 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 01 July 2007 13:33:17 Rodolfo Medina wrote: [snip] I've done more tests and these are my conclusions: 1) if I run the above grub commands from the `target' partition everything goes well: e.g., if I want to install hda6 grub boot loader to the mbr, I have to do: # grub

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-06-30 Thread Joe Hart
it to be, say, hda9. Sorry if I can'y use the right words. Maybe I should say that the hda6 Grub boot loader is now installed to the master boot record of my hard drive whereas the hda9 boot loader is installed to the /dev/hda9 partition? Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-06-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 29 June 2007 15:33:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my computer the master boot record is installed in /dev/hda6. Suppose I want to move it and have it installed in /dev/hda9: is it possible, and how? Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: have to learn python

2007-06-28 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 28 June 2007 17:49:17 abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, have I need to learn python, I know several interpreters (fro example bash scripting, ) and laguages (php, C++,C..). I administrate servers on linux end developpe application at know using depending of course of type of

Re: Fonts quality in Desktop with Iceweasel

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josep M. wrote: Hello to all. I have in the same machine centos 4.4 and debian etch, in centos, when using firefox fonts are much better quality than debian, in both I have added the same Microsoft fonts, Arial, Tahoma,Verdana... ad all fonts

Re: Upgrade from 32bit Sarge to 64bit Etch

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Podreka wrote: Hello I've thought out my migration plan, but since the box in question is my computer at work, I cannot afford to loose it for long. I would like to ask you for opinion or suggestions. I was thinking to do it like this:

Re: Problem with Debian Etch on s390

2007-05-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rod Clayton wrote: I am trying to install Debian 4.0 Etch under VM on an s390 mainframe. I am using a network install and a guest lan for connectivity. After I sucessfully install the OS, the system re-boots. On Re-boot, Linux doesn't recognize

Re: CLI tools for checking out CDROM drive

2007-05-28 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: On Monday 28 May 2007 00:24, Hugh Lawson wrote: Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean we're not talking about big bucks here. It's just annoying when something stops working for no apparent reason. I may have missed an

Re: CLI tools for checking out CDROM drive

2007-05-27 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: I've got a Sony CD-RW CRX230E on this machine, which until recently appeared to be working ok. Now I'm getting a No Media Found when trying to mount a data CD. When I first noticed this, I tried an audio cd, and that played ok,

Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manon Metten wrote: Hi Ron, On 5/25/07, *Ron Johnson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you say gnome, do you mean the package named gnome? If so, you should be all right. Unless aptitude does something stupid.

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-19 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart: On the other hand, how can one pro actively stop a band of terrorists? Interesting... Where are the terrorists? Some of the 23 911-Terrosts are definitivly alive

Re: Duplicate menu item

2007-05-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 08:14 +0530, Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: Hi, I installed the package for 'GTK Styles and Fonts' in KDE. I installed it via Automatix2. But I happened to install it twice. Now,

Re: Thx for Help, problem with links in mails remains

2007-05-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mad4linux wrote: Hi, First i'd like to thank you for the help concerning the problem with email-adresses opening in evolution when using iceweasel on kde. This problem is now fixed after selectingthe right entries in

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:42:26PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: There are also problems here: Netherlands? There are too many political parties, so in order to have a working government, coalitions must be formed

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:05:15PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:56:09AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 19:51, Eric d'Alibut

Re: Typing an '@' symbol on an Apple keyboard

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 08:45 +0200, Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: Dear all I'm a complete newbie, and I'm not sure which mailing list is the best to post my question (I posted this to

Re: The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gray wrote: The welfare system is too lenient. There are a number of people who refuse to work because they actually take a pay cut by getting a job. Something wrong there. The welfare benefit should be less than the minimum hourly wage. Can't

Re: [OT] Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:13:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: [snip] We need a list ethicist who is not out to lunch :-) Fine. I nominate you then. I don't want to be the ethicist anyway. ;) Only

Re: Typing an '@' symbol on an Apple keyboard

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 08:45 +0200, Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: Dear all I'm a complete newbie, and I'm not sure which mailing list is the best to post my question

Re: Adding icons to firefox or thunderbird

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric A. Bonney wrote: How do I assign the icons to firefox and/or thunderbird? I have them installed an running just fine, but whenever I put an icon on my desktop or in a panel I get either nothing or a little gear icon for them. I would like

Re: Oh-NOOOOS: Microsoft says Linux infringes 235 of its Patents.

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: David Baron writes: Now there must be a reason why Microsoft browbeat and legally harrassed Robertson until he gave up the name Lindows. Certainly. They _paid_ him. The reason being that it had become quite clear that the

Off Topic Messages: (was Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law)

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Burnett wrote: Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my question. How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailing list. I

Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:28:03 +, David Dawson wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: aptitude -F '%?p%?v' search '~i~dkde' | awk '/3\.5\.6/{print $1,$2}' Thanks. This is what I get from the above command: kde-i18n-engb

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] The point is in the pressure applied by lobbyists is well received in the American system. SIG's are quite alive and active. The same is true in other countries, but overall the Netherlands is much less influenced by the

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan H wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 13:18:20 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the business card .iso for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and the 31MB file downloads fine, however, when I try to open

Re: Menu question

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: Roberto C. S�nchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:11:49PM -0300, Tim wrote: I've scoured google, but I can't seem to find a solution to how to change my menu format. Currently my menu items are listed like this:

Re: Menu question

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Six wrote: Joe Hart wrote the following on 13.05.2007 18:26: snip Right click on the menu item in question and choose edit item. That will launch KDE's menu editor. There you can change the name. While you are there, you can change

Re: Advise on backing up files in Etch.

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 � wrote: What application do you think its best for backing up /home files in Debian Etch? Thank you. There are a lot of different ways to go about this. One of the most common programs do do this is tar. rsync is good if you have another

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 16:33, H.S. wrote: Hello, If I try to enlarge the fonts (CTRL+Wheel) in iceape of this website: http://gallery.menalto.com/ the menus, or those little gray background windows, on the right hand jump into the

Re: 32 54 bit shared libraries -- how to?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SteveM wrote: All the machines on my network mount /usr/local/lib/... using NFS. This has worked well for me until I added 64 bit boxen. 64bit perl chokes on 32bit compiled libraries. I feel there must be a simple solution. How have others

Re: linux-image-2.6-* dependency issues [was Re: Business card iso]

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:11:48AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: ~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-1-686 linux-image-2.6.20

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:04:09PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: The same can be said about package managers. While we all most likely agree that apt is a superior package manager, there are those that think RPM is by far better

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:13:59 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:59:56 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Faith

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:20 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:42:26 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I am American

Re: Ffmpeg and Ipod

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hackarre wrote: El ds 12 de 05 del 2007 a les 11:35 +0200, en/na Magnus Pedersen va escriure: hackarre wrote: Hello everyone! I'm quite new in Debian, I used to use Ubuntu. Everything is great but the problem is to convert my videos to the ipod

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KS wrote: Joe Hart wrote: http://gallery.menalto.com/ With my test (with iceweasel and konqueror), it depends on how large you make the text. If it goes beyond a certain level, yes the windows move. The way I see it, it is poor web page design

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 18:24:42 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki My understanding of the period leads me to believe that the second

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] God help those who help themselves. Sorry, but the wording of that strikes me as very funny. It /should/ read, God /helps/ those who help themselves. Cybe R. Wizard

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Joe Hart wrote: [snip] I say Germany is less free than The Netherlands. I can do things like post on the internet how one can download libdvdcss2 so they can play CDs. If I lived in Germany I would be breaking

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: I went ahead and downloaded the net install for Lenny, and have since upgraded it to Sid

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my role. So

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 05:59, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is someone else killing you, and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total government control over life. Well, it isn't

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:59:56PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and that is what religion usually is. It is not wrong to believe in a faith, and Roberto and Celejar

Re: help!

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:37:08AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 12:50:23 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, since some people on this list seem not to take me seriously, you might

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:50:53 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe wrote: Joe Hart wrote: So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no, people

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
metal Debian stuff. Cautions: Debian-user is intended for topical application only. Not to be taken internally. If accidently ingested, seek professional help immediately. Do not induce vomiting. A Call the list ethicist immediately. Or better, send an e-mail... Joe! Joe! Where's Joe Hart

Re: Removing Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/10/07 19:38, Eric A. Bonney wrote: I have decided that I prefer the KDE interface more than Gnome. Is it ok to just uninstall the entire Gnome package? Is there an easy way to remove them with just a single command at

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: My point is that God, if She exists, is beyond our comprehension. We have to have faith in Her existence. A valid point, except that God is in fact a He. Regards

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based on GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it that makes XFCE faster than Gnome? Good question. It used to be faster. Today, I don't think

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:59:56 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and that is what religion usually is. It is not wrong to believe in a faith

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote: Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am playing the Devil's

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/11/07 06:26, Joe Hart wrote: Roberto ý wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: My point is that God, if She exists, is beyond our comprehension. We have to have faith in Her existence. A valid

Re: GRUB duplicates kernel entries in menu.lst

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi you all I noticed this strange behaviour in grub, in etch and now in lenny. Every time update-grub is called, due to a kernel installation or removal, menu.lst grows bigger. Installed kernel entries for (recovery

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I am American and Dutch. I see the pros and cons of both systems of government, and I have no real preference to one over the other. But the media issue

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and kidnap people that *may* be terrorists and hold

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based on GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it that makes XFCE faster than Gnome? Good

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: Brendan wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based on GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:08:35 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I learned in school politics = power, and power corrupts, so what it boils down, how many politicians are trustworthy? I say very few. provocation

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] No wonder so many people are starting to think poorly of the U.S. government. What I meant is that I think it's obvious that foreign policy (and, I suspect, envy) is the real reason, not the type of legislation being

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics? Because they know who to bribe. Centralized power creates a target of opportunity for corruption. Europe is learning this the hard way now, too. Yes, I

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe wrote: Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead before it is formed. Please don't... The Union of European Socialist Republics is much

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raquel wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It helps to know something of the context when reading the bible. The people who Abraham lived among (Canaanites, IIRC?), practiced sacrificed the first fruits

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:23:21AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:20:54PM -0400, steve reilly wrote: im sure most people who subscribe to this list use more than one os, suse and debian here. I

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 5/9/07, Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on, we all come here for TOPICAL discussions and bare metal Debian stuff. I mean, I might just have to unsubscribe and find another venue to find my fix for Debian

Re: strange ? characters all over the screen in aptitude, mc and other ncurses programs

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deboo ^ wrote: Using Debian Etch stable version without X. Everything works fine since installed a few days ago except that in aptitude or midnight commander or even dpkg-reconfigure screens, I get lots of question marks displayed with reverse

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:38:27AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: I don't think envy plays much of a part. Perhaps it used to, but thing like Katrina opened up the world's eyes to see how many real Americans live and not just the ones

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 steef wrote: I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they so firmly believe in. But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem to do well on Sunday and forget about the rest of the week. Is it a turn the other

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was sacrificed instead. Fine. So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which is also

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:02:08AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Roberto � wrote: No. A debianhelp.org forum would be much better :-) Regards, -Roberto No. Forums are a pita. Give me a mailing list where I don't have to click

Re: help!

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David wrote: Hey everyone, I just downloaded and installed debian 4.0 stable on my laptop a couple of days ago, i've been playing around with it and its great!. although i have been having a bit of difficulty finding a good guide that explains

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is someone else killing you, and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total government control over life. Well, it isn't. Neither is euthanasia there, but the government does

Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I downloaded the business card .iso for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and the 31MB file downloads fine, however, when I try to open the file with k3b to burn it to a CD (because this machine won't boot off of USB) k3b says

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Atis wrote: On 5/10/07, Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried twice (meaning I downloaded the file twice, and have verified md5 checksums) Can you mount it trough loopback device? It was something like this (might be broken

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Atis wrote: On 5/10/07, Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:26:16PM +0300, Atis wrote: On 5/10/07, Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried twice (meaning I downloaded the file twice, and have verified

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Celejar wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:14:44 -0400 Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole mission is a textbook example of how it

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:46:23 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics? Because they know who

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] Can I tell offending *truths* or expres offending opinions about others? Can I say I hate Jews / Arabs / Asians / blacks / homosexuals and I think that they should be stripped of their civil rights and incarcerated? Again,

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe wrote: Joe Hart wrote: So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no, people will start calling us the commies. ;) No, I didn't mean to say that's what it will be called, just that the EU has very much more

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