Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 12:25:38PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 8 Mar, Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> >> > response to sick patients? The first is impossible as they already >> > have 100% of the market, the second already a problem they are aren't >> > respond

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > Better to lobby government to tell me what I can't do. That's a rather glib way of writing off society. That's exactly what government is designed to do: Uphold the standards of the society that created it. We like having productive and scenic land land; compact, accessabl

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:35:57AM +0100, steef wrote: >> > >> yeah. first bomb them down on false premises and lies and then tell >> them: o jeez: you cannot do it without us: you have no functioning >> economy. >> > Ummm, the premises were not false. The Brits had

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:35:30PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:44:54AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> As long as we're controlling it, and ca

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 01:47:12PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > The instruction by Jesus to turn the other cheek was directed at >> > individuals. Paul lays out the guidelines for government in Roma

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:33:43PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > Umm, prior to WWI and WWII we had an isolationist bent. We waited for >> > the problem to get to us. Personally, I am glad that Sa

Re: Ping: Curt Howland

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > I do not have a problem with "broken" threads, since, not only do I > read the digest, I read the Subject line. So you don't mind taking a shit in the bed because you don't have to sleep in it. Classy, Curt. Real classy. > While you're looking for scapegoats, why not bla

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > LOL. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and even a blind > squirrel finds a nut sometimes. One working state government hospital > does not equal a working federal bureaucracy. An example of a broken > federal health care system is a much more relevant example

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Iguess you'll have show me how the government is efficient at anything. Transportation. Try driving someplace that has a privatized road system like Australia and tell me privatization is a good idea. > Ever dealt with Workman's Comp? Another instance of a government

Re: YOUR EMAIL HAVE WON ( TICKET No:20511465463-7644)

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Viktor Podivinsky wrote: > Can anybody explain me what's going on??Why am I getting notice of winning > a million pounds without any responces on my emails?? Viktor Don't respond to them, it's a scam that could leave you bankrupt, maimed or dead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > When an employee can sit in the library and read during the majority of > their work day, and critical maintenance that they are personally > responsible for such as cleaning out drip pans under refrigeration coils > in the meat coolers for the kitchen that supplies the

Re: [OT] aargh.. the big swirl of offtopicness sucks me in, too. help!

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
David Purton wrote: > (No, I can't be bothered adding In-Reply-To and References to my > checking ;) ) No, you don't get to complain about the problem if you aren't willing to take the natural solution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Ping: Curt Howland

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:35:18AM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: >> On Wednesday 07 March 2007 04:06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was >> heard to say: >> > Please fix your MUA so that you stop creating a new thread every >> &g

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > Actually, the clear implication is that I consider the military > occupation of 170 different countries by the US to be reprehensible, > which causes me to wonder what the peoples so occupied think of it. Does it matter? We're the ones paying for it, if we think it's repreh

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/07 12:05, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Al Eridani wrote: >> >>> On 3/2/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > [snip] >> >> The wh

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:44:54AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> As long as we're controlling it, and calling it our model project, we >> really should be asking questions like "Why are we giving more to them >> than we get &

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > The number one requirement for any public transportation system is that >> > it be ubiquitous and accessible. >> >> Indeed. One thing that is an unfortunate stumbling block is the number >> of relatively sparse neighborhoods that cropped up after the elimination >>

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/07 12:18, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 05:33:06PM -1000, Al Eridani wrote: >>>> On 3/2/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/07 12:22, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> >>> Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> s. keeling wrote: >>>>> This is a ridiculous statement. I

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/07 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 7 Mar, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:44:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] >> >> And virtually every other developed nation

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:33:18AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> There's a difference between fighting a war because the planet is in >> immediate danger and complicating a civil war or other largely internal >> conflict. We d

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/07 12:42, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 03/06/07 20:43, Al Eridani wrote: >>>> On 3/4/07, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> That's modern socialism, my friend. >> >> >> > I will again quote from Wikipedia: >> > >> > "As an economic system, socialism is often char

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:44:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> As far as health care goes, medicare is by far the most efficient >> system in the US. >> > Really? Then why won't every doctor in American accept Medicare? Probably because it's rude to in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 7 Mar, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:55:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> >>> > Iraq also does not have a functioning economy. Now, you might >>> > argue t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:13:06PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> > Nice revisionist bit of history there. If you go back to the Reagan >> >> > Administration (and less so the first Bush a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Andrei Popescu wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:47:05 -0800 >> > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> > the efforts in the Balkans hav

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:55:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > Iraq also does not have a functioning economy. Now, you might argue >> > that providing National healthcare is simply getting them ad

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:18:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Paul E Condon wrote: > What has been in Iraq is hardly a reasonable standard of comparison for > how the USA should conduct its own internal affairs on any issue. But I > happen to know a few details of the recent history. As long as we're controlling it, and calling it our model project, we real

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> s. keeling wrote: >>> This is a ridiculous statement. I've met a few who did. All >>> Canadians, regardless of their position in the scheme of things have >>> two choices: accept what you're offered by tho

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Al Eridani wrote: > On 3/2/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> if you compare motor vehicle traffic in those cities, you see that even >> the two *best* public transport cities in the US can't even make public >> transport work for a *majority* of their residents. > > First, c

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 05:33:06PM -1000, Al Eridani wrote: >> On 3/2/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >if you compare motor vehicle traffic in those cities, you see that even >> >the two *best* public transport cities in the US can't even make p

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:31:45PM -1000, Al Eridani wrote: >> On 3/4/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >See, and I have been losing respect for the rest of world for >> >interfering too much in people's daily lives and sitting idly by (or >> >pro

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/06/07 20:43, Al Eridani wrote: >> On 3/4/07, Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [snip] >> Not at all. What the rest of the world wants is less interference from >> the US. As far I can see, Sweden does not interfere with what happens >> in other places, b

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Al Eridani wrote: > On 2/27/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:55:28AM +0100, Dan H. wrote: >> > >> > I think in any society, no matter in what system, it's always the >> > stupid and poor that end up in the military, at least in those ranks >> > that a

Re: OT: Politics and other actually Debian related ramblings

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > On Tuesday 06 March 2007 15:30, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: >> I wouldn't be so quick to assume Debian's working on communist >> theory successfully.  I think the DPL would have something to say >> about nobo

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/06/07 18:22, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:46:02PM -1000, Al Eridani wrote: >>> On 2/27/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:55:28AM +0100, Dan H. wrote: > [snip] >>> >> What does it matter what someo

Ping: Curt Howland

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Please fix your MUA so that you stop creating a new thread every time you hit reply. You're breaking threading and destroying thread context. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Laissez-faire economics is an impossible pipe dream and Germany proved >> it. Taken to it's natural end, you get Germany's pre-WWII out-of-control >> rapid inflation where soon it takes millions of dollar

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was worse for us than 1812 was for >> Canada. They at least made it all the way to the capitol and successfully >> captured >&g

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:14:22AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> I would be a little bit less torqued about foreign aid and a lot more >> sympathetic to the cause if the aid we were exporting wasn't a better >> deal >> tha

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/06/07 04:14, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:31:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ummm, many of the overseas mi

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 01:41:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> > You mean the wars of which Hillary Clinton >> >> > said the following [0]: >> >> >> >&

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > Nice revisionist bit of history there. If you go back to the Reagan >> > Administration (and less so the first Bush administration), you will >> > see that the Soviets were a much greater threat (short term and long >> > term) than even Hussein and bin Laden. >> >>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 01:33:30PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Andrei Popescu wrote: >> >> >> You seem to miss that Sweden and a large portion of the Commonwealth >> >> of Nations operate under some form of democratic socialis

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > You mean the wars of which Hillary Clinton >> > said the following [0]: >> >> She lost my vote over that speech when I heard that on CSPAN live. >> > Did she get it back when she flipped to being anti-war and effectively > denying that she ever supported the war?

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:47:05 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > the efforts in the Balkans have been "utter failures" ? >> >> I'd hardly call any of the former Soviet-bloc stable. > > Pleas

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: >> You seem to miss that Sweden and a large portion of the Commonwealth >> of Nations operate under some form of democratic socialism. > > You mean democracies with proper market economy and just some > socialist tendencies. That's modern socialism, my friend. -- To UNS

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:31:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > Ummm, many of the overseas military bases are in place at the >> > *invitation* of the host governments. >> >> OK, then

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:21:54PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> I'd feel a lot better about the American military protecting Americans if >> they were actually stationed where they can defend Americans. How many >> soldiers are s

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 21:57, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: >> > As would the Canadians, invaded in 1776 and 1812 unsuccessfully, >> >> 1812 was a success.  They just couldn't hold Washington for more >> tha

Re: OT: Politics and other actually Debian related ramblings

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 21:57, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: >> The problem is, you can't get the government out of the way.  It's >> either work with the government we have, or go with some kind of >> anarch

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> > So the Standard Oil Trust was a good thing, and we should welcome >> > it's return? > > During the time Standard Oil was in operation, the price of kerosine > dropped some 90%. They're still in operation, t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 06:29:17PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: >> >> 2) I never said a word about WWI or WWII. My comments we primarily >> aimed at the "W" wars. The ones in which the U.S. unilaterally invaded >> another country. Not wars which involved major portion

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
s. keeling wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> > On 03/05/07 03:06, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> s. keeling wrote: >> >>> Uh huh. Move to Canada. Need a hip replacemnt? Six to eighteen >> >> >>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
s. keeling wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> s. keeling wrote: >> >> > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> >> >> >> > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Totalitari

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:36:09 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> It's a little disingenious to hide behind the success of World War II to >> whitewash over the utter failure of every military action since. >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >>> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:02:26AM +0100, Mitja Podreka wrote: >>>> The terms socialism and communism were vandalised by the authoritarian >>>> governments and individu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
s. keeling wrote: > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> No problem with state health insurance, as long as it competes >> *directly* with private ones. > > I'd have no problem with that, assuming I can opt out of paying into > your system, and none of my taxes go to pay for your system.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 09:19:32AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:02:26AM +0100, Mitja Podreka wrote: >> >> The terms socialism and communism were vandalised by the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:14:23PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> No, I didn't. It was an utter failure. It took them how long to rescue >> folks from the Superdome? And then the cleanup from the Superdome was so >> bad, demolitio

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 09:20:28AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Mitja Podreka wrote: >> >> > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Or... they could get off their butts, get an education and improve >> >> their own lives. >> &g

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 09:36:09AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> It's a little disingenious to hide behind the success of World War II to >> whitewash over the utter failure of every military action since. > > Not *every* military ac

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:54:37AM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: >> >> The US doesn't protect anyone. If the US were actually interested in >> defense, rather than empire, the military bases overseas would be >> closed, rather than manned in 170 countries, of which, what,

Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 09:36, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to > say: >> Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> > [the United States] have never gone to war to expand our borders >> > >> >> The Native Americans might disagree with you > > As would the Canadians, in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/05/07 03:06, Paul Johnson wrote: >> s. keeling wrote: >> >>> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> Steve Lamb wrote: >>>> >>>>> Paul

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:07:27AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> So I guess the trick to getting the US to help you is make sure you >> aren't a US taxpayer and move someplace disaster prone. >> > What a crock. If anything,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 02:22, "Roberto C. Sanchez" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: >> See, and I have been losing respect for the rest of world for >> interfering too much in people's daily lives and sitting idly by >> (or providing only token participation) while th

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > When will you socialists learn to understand that the extremely high > taxes and all the government programs you have are all forms of > control? It depends on the country it's practiced whether this is a bad thing. The US would be highly compatible as all power of the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:02:26AM +0100, Mitja Podreka wrote: >> The terms socialism and communism were vandalised by the authoritarian >> governments and individuals, in order to legitimate their authorities. > > The terms socialism and communism where not vandalized

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Marc Shapiro wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: >>> >>> If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it great. I hope you do notice that the further we move toward so

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Mitja Podreka wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Or... they could get off their butts, get an education and improve >> their own lives. >> > Saying that poor people are poor because they are lazy is like saying > that rich people are rich because they are hard working. I've found the opposite tend

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
s. keeling wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> >> > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither >> >> is >> > any >> >> oth

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 10:09:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Being rom the rest of the world, I have been losing respect for the >> United States because it fails to ensure a minimum standard of living >> for its people, and sends out armies to interfere in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:46:30PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > [ snip some stats ] > >>> Sure looks like socialized medicine is sucking there, huh? > >> So what? The US also has the highest levels of obesity in the world. I >> *highly doubt* t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > any >> other economic and political model combination. Correlation without > causation. > > They're not mutually exclusive because they

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 16:33 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> >>> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 10:16 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: >> True, but it still doesn't work out rationally:  Unless you make a lot of >> money or gas is unbelievably cheap, that few minutes saved will cost you >> more wage-hours than it's worth... > > Unless you lose you job being late and you don't want to leave any > earlier. Its

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> You won't know until you go to the transit planning meetings and ask. > > I don't have to go to the transit planning meetings to know what is and > is not possible based simply on the distance invovled and how public > t

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/02/07 12:05, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> On 03/01/07 19:16, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> Ron Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> O

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:22:16 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Andrei Popescu wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:44:52 -0800 >> > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >&

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:51:11 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:21:46PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> Firestarter and ot

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:48:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Andrei Popescu wrote: >> > But USA is not the entire world. >> >> No, it's not. So why is the rest of the world trying to tell the US >> what >> would work for them when most rational people in the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 19:25, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Mitja Podreka wrote: > [snip] >> >> Who's rich enough to afford to waste gas driving faster than 60 MPH, much >> less more on a regular basis? Fuel economy on mos

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/01/07 15:58, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 03/01/07 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Celejar wrote: > I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which > has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the > internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. Is it green or purple? There are two kinds, ones for keyboards and ones for mice. The green o

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Would be half that if LA had not destroyed it's public transport in the >> 1940s and 1950s. 45 minutes is a long commute by anybody's standards. > > Uh, no, Paul it wouldn't. It is pretty much physically impossible

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:44:52 -0800 > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> > You're confusing socialism with totalitarianism. Please see my >> > previous posts about this. >> >>

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/01/07 19:16, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 03/01/07 15:51, Joe Hart wrote: >>>> Steve Lamb wrote: >>>>> Joe Hart wrote: >>>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 10:55 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:37:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 02/28/07 14:37, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> &g

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> But USA is not the entire world. > > No, it's not. So why is the rest of the world trying to tell the US > what would work for them when most rational people in the US could tell > you it won't? Because we all use the same energy sources and breath

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 13:35, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> >>> Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should >>> drive, how they should live, etc You ought to be using Windows, not >>> an OS

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 01 March 2007 15:40, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: >> You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in >> difference, right? > > Fals

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Mitja Podreka wrote: >> What I meant is: "why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your >> country doesn't allow you to go faster than 130km/h." > > Uhm, because maybe you'll drive it somewhere other than where speed is > limited? That not everyone just putters along

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > GNU/Linux has more in common with freedom of choice than anything else. > It's originators my not see that, or have had it in mind, but the fact > is it does.  It doesn't require coercion or attempt to force anyone to > do things exactly the same as everyone else.  It is

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:35:00AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Freddy Freeloader wrote: >> >> > Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should >> > drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 15:51, Joe Hart wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] >> However, I was exaggerating a bit. To go the 26 km from here to >> Amsterdam, it takes about a half of an hour with the car or the bus. >> The difference is I have to find a place to park

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/07 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 27 Feb, Ron Johnson wrote: >> It's not stupid if you haven't been there. >>> I thought you were smarter than that. >>> >>> Presuming you're not: >>> >>> Mountains and v

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:37:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/28/07 14:37, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> > Except that they all come in unskilled. All the commercials for the >> > Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines talk about joining up and they will >> >>

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