Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-30 22:06:51, schrieb Oleg Verych: Mile stone, we are now is man gcc: nothing found. Next mile stone C-h i: nothing found... man 1 gcc works fine here. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/] dpkg -S gcc.1.gz gcc: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz gcc:

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-03 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:37:14PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In international copyright law, there are rights belonging to the author that he cannot sign away. These include the right to be considered the author. This means that if the document mentions him as

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-03 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:23:36PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Tyler Smith wrote: I understand there have been some situations where an author attempted to undermine the license by declaring an entire document to be invariant. This is clearly not the case here, though. That is

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-03 Thread Tyler Smith
Yeah, I think the real problem is that the rules shouldn't be the same for documentation as they are for code. If someone is going to go to the effort of making a tutorial and then giving it away I don't have a problem with their reserving the right to attach some unrelated philosophical stuff

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-03 Thread Marc Shapiro
Tyler Smith wrote: This has been getting increasingly aggravating for me, as I find more and more of the documentation is either stowed out of sight in non-free, or has actually been put in some sort of package purgatory while someone decides what to do with it (ie. the elisp docs, which are

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Tyler Smith
This has been getting increasingly aggravating for me, as I find more and more of the documentation is either stowed out of sight in non-free, or has actually been put in some sort of package purgatory while someone decides what to do with it (ie. the elisp docs, which are currently not in

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been getting increasingly aggravating for me, as I find more and more of the documentation is either stowed out of sight in non-free, or has actually been put in some sort of package purgatory while someone decides what to do with it (ie. the

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Tyler Smith
Regarding the status of the elisp-manual in testing: http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/elisp-manual/news/20060805T210823Z.html FYI: The status of the elisp-manual source package in Debian's testing distribution has changed. Previous version: 21-2.8-2 Current version: (not in testing) Hint:

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:34:24PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been getting increasingly aggravating for me, as I find more and more of the documentation is either stowed out of sight in non-free, or has actually been put in some sort of

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:34:24PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been getting increasingly aggravating for me, as I find more and more of the documentation is either stowed out of sight in non-free, or has

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrei Popescu wrote: Imagine someone writing a piece of documentation for a software, but after some time stops keeping it up-to-date. Is the license only for technical documents or would it also be applicable to, say, works of fiction or business/political missives which contain some

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tyler Smith wrote: I understand there have been some situations where an author attempted to undermine the license by declaring an entire document to be invariant. This is clearly not the case here, though. That is immaterial. It's like saying that if code were pretty much entirely free

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In international copyright law, there are rights belonging to the author that he cannot sign away. These include the right to be considered the author. This means that if the document mentions him as author (perhaps on a title page) it is illegal to change that to,

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread David E. Fox
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:37:14 -0700 Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, in both cases one can't just take the books, change the author name and viola, have a new book. But that isn't the same as being considered the author as neither book list the true author. Of course those are

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-01 Thread Oleg Verych
Hallo, Kevin (using half of your's mail-followup-to, because i'm using gmane.org, and i don't know what will happen ;) On 2006-10-01, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 10:06:51PM +, Oleg Verych wrote: [-0-] Debian project is to provide free OS. How one can

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-01 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Oleg Verych wrote: IMHO, true GPLed software is The Linux Kernel, not part of GNU project and FSF copyright. Lovely PITA of mister RMS. Incidentally, this might be one of the reasons the FSF'ers need a GPLv3 that screws Linux over. Can you imagine when all the packages containing the any

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-01 Thread John Hasler
Ottavio Caruso writes: Can you imagine when all the packages containing the any later version string will come into an effect... When you receive a copy of such a package you are being offered a GPL2 license. The string just means that if you redistribute you may specify GPL3 if you so choose.

(end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-09-30 Thread Oleg Verych
Hallo, dear developers and users of Debian. I actually didn't care to search much of www, because i fed up with all of it, this is just my opinion. Mile stone, we are now is man gcc: nothing found. Next mile stone C-h i: nothing found... Debian project is to provide free OS. How one can develop

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-09-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 10:06:51PM +, Oleg Verych wrote: Hallo, dear developers and users of Debian. I actually didn't care to search much of www, because i fed up with all of it, this is just my opinion. Mile stone, we are now is man gcc: nothing found. Next mile stone C-h i: nothing