Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 16 apr 11, 12:35:05, Andrei Popescu wrote: Hmm, from my (limited) experience and a lot of d-u lurking I can think of two possible approaches to this: (this being multiple systems, possibly even different distros on the same machine) 1. shared /boot Assuming other distros' grub

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
It occurs to me that hardware (disk controllers, motherboard) may be relevant, so I'm pasting the dmesg in at the bottom. Sorry about the repeat. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
Can I blame this on lack of sleep? configuration files and dmesg pasted at bottom. Sorry about more huge repeats. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 11 apr 11, 11:49:32, Joel Rees wrote: Sure, when debian updates its kernel, dpkg (I assume) will know to re-run update-grub or call the lower level routines directly. But when I run yum update in Fedora, how does debian know about that? So, I have to watch the packages yum grabs in

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you won't have to

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: The grub2 developers

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you won't have to worry about reordering. Well, I was thinking about that, but the names of the

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you won't have to

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: The grub2 developers decided that most people wouldn't want to set up chainloads and

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
(Not sure what I can trim, yet.) On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I'm having the devil of a

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Set GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub and run grub-set-default n; update-grub. You will then always boot by default with the last kernel with which

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: I don't use chain loading,

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: [...] F15's failure may or may not be grub's fault... F15's in alpha mode so it's most probably F15 but we can't tell from your posts. Actually, it's looking

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 06 apr 11, 23:56:56, Joel Rees wrote: Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue mode entry, having the third entry as the default suddenly is not what I want. Maybe that won't happen with

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 06 apr 11, 23:56:56, Joel Rees wrote: Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue mode entry, having the third entry

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Huang, Tao
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue mode entry, having the third entry as the default suddenly is not what I want.

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Huang, Tao
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] 1. Set GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub and run grub-set-default n; update-grub. You will then always boot by default with the last kernel with which you booted. you dont boot with the the last entry you used unless

[help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-03-19 Thread Joel Rees
I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I found something about using update grub and setting the default boot in a fle in /usr/share/grub, followed

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-03-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Joel, Joel Rees wrote: I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I found something about using update grub and setting the default boot in a fle

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-03-19 Thread Dom
On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I found something about using update grub and setting the default boot