Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-28 Thread cmetzler
Hi. Please do not cc me. I read the list. Thanks. Art Edwards wrote: Chris Metzler wrote: Hm, well, I understand that you're having a problem, but I don't really see it as a problem with testing, or that testing is broken; but rather, it seems more like a problem with the idea that

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-28 Thread Joseph Haig
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is its intended pupose, wouldn't it be a good idea to try to assure that large scale problems are kept to a minimum? No, because that isn't its intended purpose. This being the case, is it possible (and relatively easy) for me to set up my own

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-28 Thread cmetzler
Joseph Haig wrote: Chris Metzler wrote: (and that's without even getting into the subject that testing does not get direct security updates. Stable does. Unstable effectively gets them through uploads. Testing doesn't get them until the packages trickle down from unstable, which could

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-27 Thread John Oxley
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:08:55AM -0500, Jason Clinton wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 12:15 am, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. To

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-27 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:38:14 -0500 Jason Clinton wrote: In the past two days, etch (testing) has been updated with a kde meta package which apparently depends on packages from unstable which, in turn, has caused aptitude to suggest removing KDE when performing a system-wide upgrade. I have

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-27 Thread Art Edwards
Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:38:14 -0500 Jason Clinton wrote: In the past two days, etch (testing) has been updated with a kde meta package which apparently depends on packages from unstable which, in turn, has caused aptitude to suggest removing KDE when

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:34:34AM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: I have to say that during the time between Woody and Sarge (a long time) people were encouraged to use testing as a nearly stable platform. Without it, Debian may have been abandoned by a significant part of its user base. Isn't

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-27 Thread Robert Wolfe
- Original Message From: Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)? Date: 27/09/05 23:55 Hm, well, I understand that you're having a problem, but I don't really see

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 10:15:51PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. Marc, how can people know which 24 hours to skip? -- Carl Fink

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 26 September 2005 10:37, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 10:15:51PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. Marc, how

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Jason Clinton
On Monday 26 September 2005 12:15 am, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. I am reporting the issue. Why are you always such a troll? -- I use

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:08:55AM -0500, Jason Clinton wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 12:15 am, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. I

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 10:15:51PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every twenty-four hours. Marc, how can people know which 24 hours to

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Alvin Oga
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Marc, how can people know which 24 hours to skip? The ones for which you have no backup... but ... update/upgrade is updating the system .. not user data and there's gazillion ways to update/restore/recreate the system to be able to recover

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-26 Thread Brendan
On Monday 26 September 2005 01:40 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: When did disagreeing with the clueless majority automatically make someone a troll? From Jargon File (4.3.1, 29 Jun 2001) [jargon]: troll 1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on {Usenet}

Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-25 Thread Jason Clinton
Hi everyone; In the past two days, etch (testing) has been updated with a kde meta package which apparently depends on packages from unstable which, in turn, has caused aptitude to suggest removing KDE when performing a system-wide upgrade. I have been able to hold it back by following the

Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?

2005-09-25 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 04:38:14PM -0500, Jason Clinton wrote: In the past two days, etch (testing) has been updated with a kde meta package which apparently depends on packages from unstable which, in turn, has caused aptitude to suggest removing KDE when performing a system-wide upgrade. I