On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:04:20AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> Hi Boyd,
>
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> >I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS
> >Windows for "Joe Sixpack" and "Jane Boxwine". This might already
> >be the case; it is really hard for me to judg
Hi,
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...and evidently I like talking about myself. :(
All good, nice to hear your story, my PC life began in the TRS-80 days
at a local Tandy store in Melbourne AU. I was young then, but not as
young as you. Not going into my story right now, but I'm 44 now fwi
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
I'm nearing 31, but I mostly still act 25. :P My first exposure to
> UNIX-like
> systems wasn't until my early teens, but I didn't really get to dive in
> until
> I was 18.
>
> It still took me quite a while to move to Linux. My fir
On 2011-03-02 09:04:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS Windows
>> for "Joe Sixpack" and "Jane Boxwine". This might already be the case; it
>> is really hard for me to judge. I've been programming since I
Hi Boyd,
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS Windows for
"Joe Sixpack" and "Jane Boxwine". This might already be the case; it is
really hard for me to judge. I've been programming since I was 5 and a fan of
UNIX and UNIX-like syste
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 13:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Ma, 01 mar 11, 05:15:36, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> >
> > There are examples besides OpenOffice. For example, we are eagerly
> > awaiting Iceweasel/Firefox 3.6 because the HTML5 support will finally
> > allow multiple attachments at
On Ma, 01 mar 11, 05:15:36, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
>
> There are examples besides OpenOffice. For example, we are eagerly
> awaiting Iceweasel/Firefox 3.6 because the HTML5 support will finally
> allow multiple attachments at once in Zimbra Web Client (if I understand
> it correctly). PDF e
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:56:14AM EST, Jason Hsu wrote:
[..]
> Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu..
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1604
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On 2011-03-01 13:28:43 teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>On an alternate point, I don't believe in ubuntu's bug number 1 mentality.
>
>I don't believe all windows users should be converted, if they are to lazy
>to learn basic administration leave them on windows, don't dilute the linux
>gene pool
On Mar 1, 2011 2:29 PM, wrote:
>
> Jason Hsu said:
>
> Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu, so I don't know how you can pan Ubuntu
but praise Mint. No distro can be good at everything, but there's no
denying the impact of Ubuntu. It has moved the Overton Window in the
Windows-vs.-Linux shift.
>
>
Jason Hsu said:
Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu, so I don't know how you can pan Ubuntu but
praise Mint. No distro can be good at everything, but there's no denying the
impact of Ubuntu. It has moved the Overton Window in the Windows-vs.-Linux
shift.
Technically, Linux Mint has
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:46 AM, wrote:
> The problem with Ubuntu is it's the half-baked answer to a question that
> nobody was
> asking in the first place...
Given its success, it must be fulfilling a need/demand!
> So they come up with the system of releasing LTS's about every two years, a
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:46:00 +
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> The fact is any N00b would be better starting off with Mint, it's stable,
> quick with media centric desktop users needs, and the user would be learning
> linux the RIGHT way, not the we're gonna change this or that from th
In <4d6cc452.8040...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
>That's even better than Debian Stable, which only fixes *security* bugs.
Check release.d.o, again. Stable (and Oldstable) are updates with "important"
bug fixes AND security updates. This is generally interpreted that RC bugs
affecting stable/
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:46:00AM +, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> The BIG Complaint: because Debian supports So many hardware platforms
> their release cycles are too slow.
>
Just a minor correction. The number of hardware platforms supported has a
minor impact on the leng
In <1826992189-1298976361-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511436955-
@bda023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>The problem with Ubuntu is [...]
You clearly have issues with Ubuntu and are willing to abuse facts to make
them look bad. LTS releases are every
In <1298971940.24313.59.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com>, John A. Sullivan
III wrote:
>On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
>> UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
>> and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
>
>That's what we fi
In , Eero
Volotinen wrote:
>UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
>and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
An Ubuntu LTS gets 3 years of support on desktops. Etch had longer support.
Lenny will have one week less. You can buy Debian support from
The problem with Ubuntu is it's the half-baked answer to a question that nobody
was asking in the first place...
The BIG Complaint: because Debian supports So many hardware platforms their
release cycles are too slow.
So they come up with the system of releasing LTS's about every two year
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:57 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> 2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
> > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> >> 2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
> >> > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> UBuntu lts is now very attract
On 03/01/2011 03:32 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
That's what we first thought but it may not be what you ex
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
>> 2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
>> > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
>> >
>> >> UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
>> >> and it is also possibl
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> 2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
> > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> >
> >> UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
> >> and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
> >
>
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:32, John A. Sullivan III
wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> That's what we first thought but it may not be what you expect. We
> assumed that LTS meant that applications would be refreshed to the
> latest versions and new applications wou
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III :
> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
>
>> UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
>> and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
>
> That's what we first thought but it may not be what you expect. We
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
> UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
> and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
That's what we first thought but it may not be what you expect. We
assumed that LTS meant that applications w
2011/3/1 :
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Message
>>From: b...@iguanasuicide.net
>>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>Subject: Re: Best and most popular distros for the enterprise desktop
>>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:48:36 -0600
>>
>>&g
>
>
>
> Original Message
>From: b...@iguanasuicide.net
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Best and most popular distros for the enterprise desktop
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:48:36 -0600
>
>>On Monday 28 February 2011 13:47:23 Jason Hsu wro
> Ps - as much as I dislike redhat, sles takes the cake for the worst
> corporate *nix imo.
What don't you like about SLES?
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 23:27, shawn wilson wrote:
> So, even though I think I smell dog shit on the bottom of my shoes every
> time I type rpm or yum, I will still recommend them for corporate use just
> because I know support will be there if I'm not.
>
What?!? yum is great. What don't you like
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 22:42, John A. Sullivan III
wrote:
> I've been following this with interest as we are about to deploy what we
> hope will be very many enterprise desktops. We had originally planned
> on Ubuntu until we realized their understanding of long term support was
> very different
On 02/28/2011 12:47 PM, Jason Hsu wrote:
> Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
> desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
> Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
>
> What features/characteristics are needed for an enterprise desktop c
On Feb 28, 2011 3:35 PM, "Dotan Cohen" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu wrote:
> > Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the
enterprise desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop
distros are Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
> >
> > What featu
On Monday 28 February 2011 14:42:41 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> That is ultimately what led us to Debian. It has been our first major
> experience with Debian and we have been quite pleased with it as the
> best balance for a desktop OS thus far when we combine stable,
> backports, and occasional
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
This is easy: RHEL or it's twin CentOS
On Monday 28 February 2011 13:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
> For those of you who have helped a company or organization migrate from
> Windows to Linux or from one Linux distro to another, what is your
> preference?
The only time I've been involved in such a project it was from a hetrogenous
AIX/HP-UX/
On Monday 28 February 2011 20:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
> Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
> desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
> Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
Maybe one of us should go and replace you whenyou go for your
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 22:34 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu wrote:
> > Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
> > desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
> > Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
> >
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu wrote:
> Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
> desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
> Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
>
> What features/characteristics are needed for an enterprise de
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:56:07 -0500
Chris Brennan wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jason Hsu
> wrote:
>
> > Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the
> > enterprise desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise
> > desktop distros are Ubuntu, RedHat, and
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jason Hsu wrote:
> Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
> desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
> Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
>
http://distrowatch.com/ is probably what you want.
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Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
What features/characteristics are needed for an enterprise desktop computer
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