Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-05 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 05-Sep-97 Buddha Buck wrote: > > [snip] > >Not really. The current -standard- for email transmission is RFC821 >(also about 15 years old), and that explicitly states that SMTP is >7-bits only. ESTMP, MIME, and other standards-track protocols are >designed to try to work around that problem,

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-05 Thread richard
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. > > RFC2047 is also applicable - it's responsible to the mangled addresses > you see sometimes if you MUA isn't aware of the proposed standard. > However, I don't think it should be applied to Date:

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-05 Thread Buddha Buck
> On 04-Sep-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the > > internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative > > process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the > > product of a similar cooperative process). > >

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Orn" == Orn E Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Orn> On 04-Sep-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the >> internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative >> process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the >> p

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 04-Sep-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the > internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative > process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the > product of a similar cooperative process). > > If you

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I do not know what the debate seems to be about, but I must take exception to this statement. >>"Orn" == Orn E Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Orn> The RFC are just guidelines... and not rules. The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the internet. And

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 03-Sep-97 Clare Johnstone wrote: > >If not sorted at all, listed as they arrive, the threads are in good >order. For example the date on >Orn's mail as received just now is: >Date: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mi=F0,?= 03 Sep 1997 23:00:14 +0200 (CET DST) Which is: Date: MiĆ°, 03 Sep 1997 23:00:14 +0200 (

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 03-Sep-97 Olaf Weber wrote: > >RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some >restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: > > 5. DATE AND TIME SPECIFICATION > > 5.1. SYNTAX > > date-time = [ day "," ] date time; dd mm yy >

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 03-Sep-97 George Bonser wrote: > >I STRONGLY disagree. I want to know when you wrote it ... not when it >arrived here. If a mail was delayed a day or two in route, it might >completely change how I look at the information in the email. Example, a >put-down of Princess Diana might be viewed in

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Lindsay Allen
On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, George Bonser wrote: > > I STRONGLY disagree. I want to know when you wrote it ... not when it > arrived here. If a mail was delayed a day or two in route, it might > completely change how I look at the information in the email. Example, a > put-down of Princess Diana migh

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Olaf Weber
Jason Gunthorpe writes: > On 8859 xxx 2001, Orn E. Hansen wrote: >> On 02-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: >>> Orn, your mailer is formatting dates in a way that pine doesn't understand >> HDate: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mi=F0,?= 03 Sep 1997 19:14:09 +0200 (CET DST) > I noticed that, why is your mailer putti

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread Carey Evans
Olaf Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some > restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: [snip] > So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. RFC2047 is also applicable - it's responsible to the mangled

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-04 Thread David Wright
On 4 Sep 1997, Carey Evans wrote: > Olaf Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some > > restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: > > [snip] > > > So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. I agree.

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-03 Thread Clare Johnstone
On 8859 xxx 2001, Orn E. Hansen wrote: > Date: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mi=F0,?= 03 Sep 1997 23:00:14 +0200 (CET DST) > From: "Orn E. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 03-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > >Hm, interesting thought.. Right now it does sort by the Date: line which > >is quite nice, it puts a

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-03 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 03-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > >Hm, interesting thought.. Right now it does sort by the Date: line which >is quite nice, it puts all the messages in thread order, unless people >have mis-set clocks ;> Sorting by the recived line would likely be the >same as not sorting at all though. > I

Re: Date in mail headers

1997-09-03 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 8859 xxx 2001, Orn E. Hansen wrote: > On 02-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > >Orn, your mailer is formatting dates in a way that pine doesn't understand > HReceived: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > by oehansen.pp.se (8.8.7/8.8.7/Debian/GNU) id TAA11866; > Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:15:5

Date in mail headers

1997-09-03 Thread Orn E. Hansen
On 02-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > >Orn, your mailer is formatting dates in a way that pine doesn't understand > Ah, unfortunately that would happen... the header produced by my mailer reads: HReceived: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by oehansen.pp.se (8.8.7/8.8.7/Debian/GNU) id TAA11866;