On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 19:26:41 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-12 at 18:55, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> There are several sources:
> >
> > [ snipped the back and forth ]
> >
David Wright wrote:
...
> That's just plain wrong. What was added to bookworm,
> the current stable release, on Release Day was a an
> official number (12 in this instance). Please stop
> trying to sow confusion about codenames.
ok.
songbird
David Wright wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
> I can't understand that paragraph. Too many "this", "that"
> and "it"s to know what refers to what.
haha, that's ok, just let it go.
>> release notes may not be written and some cases may
>> even be forgotten about.
>
> Which release doesn't have
> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should not do
> it. Ever.
I guess I'm an idiot, then.
I find it quite convenient because it says exactly what I want: I want
those machines to run Debian stable, whichever version that "stable"
happens to be at any particular time.
On 2023-06-12 at 18:55, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
>>> There are several sources:
>
> [ snipped the back and forth ]
>
> I'm sorry, but I just can't take seriously your not being acquainted
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:23:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> ...
> >> except that is a misconception for those who are running
> >> testing. we're not upgrading to a new release.
> >
> > I don't understand. Suite testing was codenamed bookworm until today,
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:46:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 09:34, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> >>> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should
>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:32:04 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> It would seem very simple, the first time this happens, to
> >>>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:06:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> ...
> > The overwhelming majority of people who track testing think that it's
> > a rolling release. It's not. It's actually a series of evolving
> > release candidates, with periods of great disruption interspersed
On Sun, 2023-06-11 at 15:24 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > >
David Wright wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>> except that is a misconception for those who are running
>> testing. we're not upgrading to a new release.
>
> I don't understand. Suite testing was codenamed bookworm until today,
> and now testing is codenamed trixie. Why is that not a new release?
Greg Wooledge wrote:
...
> The overwhelming majority of people who track testing think that it's
> a rolling release. It's not. It's actually a series of evolving
> release candidates, with periods of great disruption interspersed with
> periods of relative calm.
>
> You're clearing replying to
On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:32:04 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
>>> It would seem very simple, the first time this happens, to
>>> configure this in APT. I typed man apt-get (my preferred
>>> method),
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 10:37:45PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 05:58:50 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> > Tixy wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > >> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 05:58:50 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> >> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
> >>
>
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 02:01:34PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade could use a tune-up, particularly
> the part about editing /etc/apt/sources.list, which IMHO could be
> worded a little more clearly.
It is a wiki, so you can do that.
If you can
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:32:04 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 08:12:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 07:50, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> >>> If you track "testing" (something which has been deprecated for
>
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 3:35 PM Brian wrote:
>
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 15:24:16 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > > >
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 03:24:16PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > >
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
> >
> > Maybe it's time for a
On Sun, 2023-06-11 at 07:11 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
> >
> > Maybe it's time for a
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>> The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name. Using
>> the symbolic names for the releases, rather than the actual codenames,
>> *is semantically different* and the tools *should treat it
On 2023-06-11 at 09:34, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should
>>> not do it. Ever.
>>>
>>> This is not a "use at your own risk"
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> >> The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name.
> >> Using the symbolic names for the
On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 08:12:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 07:50, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>>> If you track "testing" (something which has been deprecated for
>>> a while)
>>
>> What? Since when? This is the first I remember
On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name.
>> Using the symbolic names for the releases, rather than the actual
>> codenames, *is semantically different* and
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 08:12:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 07:50, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 05:58:50AM -0400, songbird wrote:
> >> Tixy wrote:
>
> >>> Or maybe the wiki page should be deleted, or just say go RTFM,
> >>> i.e. read the release notes
The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 07:50, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
...
>> If you track "testing" (something which has been deprecated for a
>> while)
>
> What? Since when? This is the first I remember having heard of this.
ditto...
> Certainly the "continuously usable testing" thing seems
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name. Using
> the symbolic names for the releases, rather than the actual codenames,
> *is semantically different* and the tools *should treat it differently*.
Using "stable"
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> > > =
> > > # apt-get update
> > [...]
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug
> > > InRelease' changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to
> > >
On 2023-06-11 at 07:50, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 05:58:50AM -0400, songbird wrote:
>
>> Tixy wrote:
>>> Or maybe the wiki page should be deleted, or just say go RTFM,
>>> i.e. read the release notes for the release you want to upgrade
>>> to.
>>
>> except that is a
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 05:58:50AM -0400, songbird wrote:
> Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> >> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
> >>
Tixy wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
>> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
>>
>> Maybe it's time for a complete refresh of those documents.
>
> Or
Jeffrey Walton writes:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>> > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
>> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
>> > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
>>
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
> >
> > Maybe it's time for a
On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get:
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html .
>
> Maybe it's time for a complete refresh of those documents.
Or maybe the wiki page
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 8:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> > =
> > # apt-get update
> [...]
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug InRelease'
> > changed its 'Codename'
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
=
# apt-get update
[...]
Reading package lists... Done
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug InRelease'
changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>> =
>> # apt-get update
> [...]
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug InRelease'
>> changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> =
> # apt-get update
[...]
> Reading package lists... Done
> E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug InRelease'
> changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to 'trixie-debug'
> N: This must be accepted
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> David Christensen wrote:
> > debian-user:
> >
> > $ date
> > Sat Jun 10 14:50:40 PDT 2023
> >
> >
> > The "Download" link on the Debian home page is currently broken:
> >
> > https://www.debian.org/
> >
> > -> Download
> ...
>
> there
David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
>
> $ date
> Sat Jun 10 14:50:40 PDT 2023
>
>
> The "Download" link on the Debian home page is currently broken:
>
> https://www.debian.org/
>
> -> Download
...
there are also other artifacts happening which i hope
will eventually be corrected as the
Peter Ehlert wrote:
...
> have a little patience
> https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=773925#p773925
:) i have that. :) thanks for the link...
songbird
On 6/10/23 14:51, David Christensen wrote:
debian-user:
$ date
Sat Jun 10 14:50:40 PDT 2023
The "Download" link on the Debian home page is currently broken:
https://www.debian.org/
-> Download
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:51:00PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
>
> $ date
> Sat Jun 10 14:50:40 PDT 2023
>
>
> The "Download" link on the Debian home page is currently broken:
>
> https://www.debian.org/
>
> -> Download
>
You may just find that it has changed to Debian
debian-user:
$ date
Sat Jun 10 14:50:40 PDT 2023
The "Download" link on the Debian home page is currently broken:
https://www.debian.org/
-> Download
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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