Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Kevin Mark wrote: more viruses, more cpu time, more MONEY. Its always money in the end. Well, not always money. Money is the final factor, to be sure, but I can say with a resonable level of assurance that there are other factors. Factors such as space and power. Granted one can get more

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:53:20PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > Then that is my mistake; I offer my apology to you and to Ross. I > found out about it several days ago during a normal routine check of > services offered on earthlink's web site, and immediately turned it on, I did the same. >

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-14 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:58:34 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:31:55PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > >> - if you don't read communications from earthlink, then no wonder you >> don't know what's going on >> > I did check my backed up folder and found the last 8 months of earthl

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:31:55PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:56:48 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > > > Although filtering should "obviously" be done by service providers, it > > seems they have a lot of trouble getting it right. Mail to me goes > > through two service pr

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:56:48 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Although filtering should "obviously" be done by service providers, it > seems they have a lot of trouble getting it right. Mail to me goes > through two service providers (one of them is just a forwarder, and I > only recently found out

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:56:48PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:15:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > ... > > > > Earthlink have implemented virus and spam filtering within the past > > month or so, early November, if time serves. > Yea! > headers. They may have resi

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:56:48PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:15:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > ... > > > > Earthlink have implemented virus and spam filtering within the past > > month or so, early November, if time serves. > > That explains

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-11 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:15:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: ... > > Earthlink have implemented virus and spam filtering within the past > month or so, early November, if time serves. That explains some of the confusion. It's good they are trying to be responsive. Too bad they aren't doing

Spam, email, encrypted transit, harvesting (was Re: Earthlink and Swen)

2003-12-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:05:04AM -0500, Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 04:44:18AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 05:40:16AM -0500, Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:55:57PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrot

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 04:44:18AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 05:40:16AM -0500, Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:55:57PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wro

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031208 03:17]: > I guess this is as 'responsive' as they get. Now if they only > get of their duff and get encrypted pop or the like!!! This would > decrease my spam further! By "encrypted pop" do you mean pop3/ssl? If so, how do you expect would this decrease th

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 05:40:16AM -0500, Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:55:57PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Perhaps their recently introduced virus filtering service: > >

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:55:57PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Perhaps their recently introduced virus filtering service: > > http://www.earthlink.net/myaccount/help/virusblocker/ > -- > Karsten M. Self <[E

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > ... > > I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > > the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > ... > > I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > > the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:11:49 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:52:27PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: >> >> I have no idea why you are attacking my veracity. My statement is fact. > > Well, try reading a little harder. And generally, if someone asks you > "why is something true

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-06 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:52:27PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:56:59 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > ... > >> I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > >> the outside world are mail

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:56:59 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > ... >> I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to >> the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run >> Apache but it too is loc

Re: Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread kmark+debian-user
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:56:59PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > ... > > I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > > the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run > > Apache but it to

Earthlink and Swen

2003-12-05 Thread Ross Boylan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:08:23PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: ... > I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run > Apache but it too is locked down to localhost. My mail is run through my > ISP's (eart