Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread Kenneth Parker
I've often wanted to be a Curator, for a Computer History Museum. Kenneth Parker

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread David Wright
> > > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. > > > > I'm not sure that you really can. What's your reasoning for > > doing this? Are you just spoiling for an unnecessary fight? > > Or do you really want to boot off it? > > I want to use a floppy disk

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Since it was the industry standard for "sneakernet" file > transfer for over a decade, I don't think it's a strange use case. > What did I miss? The two decades that passed by since? ;-) Especially since the media was notoriously unreliable back then and it probably hasn't gotten better with

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. Reading the manpage of mkfs.fat gives me the impression that mkfs.fat /dev/sdc should do the trick. Have you tried? Stefan

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 5:43 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 17 Mar 2019 at 13:19:29 (+0100), Anders Andersson wrote: > > I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. > > I'm no

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-20 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:46 PM Curt wrote: > > On 2019-03-17, Anders Andersson wrote: > > I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. > > Normally I would have us

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-17 Thread David Wright
On Sun 17 Mar 2019 at 13:19:29 (+0100), Anders Andersson wrote: > I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. I'm not sure that you really can. What's your reasoning for doing this? Are y

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2019-03-17, Anders Andersson wrote: > > I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. > > Normally I would have used mformat from the mtools package, but it &g

Re: Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-17, Anders Andersson wrote: > I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk > so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. > Normally I would have used mformat from the mtools package, but it > appears that I can not supp

Format an MS-DOS floppy on /dev/sdc

2019-03-17 Thread Anders Andersson
I got myself a USB 3.5" disk drive and want to format a 3.5" HD disk so that it Just Works™ as a standard MS-DOS floppy. Normally I would have used mformat from the mtools package, but it appears that I can not supply a device name, just "emulated names" like A: which

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-31 Thread G2PC
Le 31/01/2018 à 11:57, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : > Bonjour, > > À mon sens, des vieux ordinateurs ne peuvent servir > que pour des connexions Terminaux / Serveur, > Ce n'est qu'un déport, les clients légers recevront la puissance > du serveur, si il le supporte. > > Des clients légers

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-31 Thread andre_debian
Bonjour, À mon sens, des vieux ordinateurs ne peuvent servir que pour des connexions Terminaux / Serveur, Ce n'est qu'un déport, les clients légers recevront la puissance du serveur, si il le supporte. Des clients légers qui ne réclament aucune puissance, à faible coût, ou de vieux coucous

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-31 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 30/01/2018 à 17:27, err...@free.fr a écrit : Je peux comprendre qu'en choisissant un ordinosaure tu veuille échapper à Spectre et Meltdown (mais pas forcement sur le serveur) :D Les Pentium II sont egalement concernes, le multi-pipelining ayant ete generalises aux environs du Pentium Pro,

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-30 Thread Yann Serre
Oui, la consommation + l'encombrement + la poussière... J'ai remplacé un ancêtre par un jeune "HYSTOU" passif (boitier 20 x20cm, i3). Bien content. Avec une minute de silence, un instant de recueillement, puis recyclage avec dignité dans le bac d'un magasin d'électro-ménager ? Le 30/01/2018 à

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-30 Thread err404
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/30/2018 07:19 PM, Christophe Moille wrote: > Le mardi 30 janv. 2018 à 17:27:45 (+0100), err...@free.fr a écrit : >> Bonjour Bernard >> >> Je peux comprendre qu'en choisissant un ordinosaure tu veuille échapper à >> Spectre et Meltdown (mais

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-30 Thread Christophe Moille
Le mardi 30 janv. 2018 à 17:27:45 (+0100), err...@free.fr a écrit : > Bonjour Bernard > > Je peux comprendre qu'en choisissant un ordinosaure tu veuille échapper à > Spectre et Meltdown (mais pas forcement sur le serveur) :D > > mais faire tourner cette machine va te coûter plus cher en

Re: recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-30 Thread err404
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/30/2018 04:27 PM, Bernard Schoenacker wrote: > bonjour, > > je n'arrive pas à booter sur cdrom avec une image iso > et j'ai besoin de disquettes contenant un équivalent > de plop boot usb ... > > c'est un P2 avec 400 MHz et 256 Mo sdram que

recherche disquette floppy 3,5" pour booter sur cdrom

2018-01-30 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour, je n'arrive pas à booter sur cdrom avec une image iso et j'ai besoin de disquettes contenant un équivalent de plop boot usb ... c'est un P2 avec 400 MHz et 256 Mo sdram que je souhaite faire passer en client léger en mettant x2go client slt bernard

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-16 Thread David Niklas
so from GRUB on the hard disc. The Plop website has > details. Struggling with a pile of floppies is no fun and a floppy which > works today ivery likely not to do so next month. > Actually, I've had to transfer data from an old windowz to another windowz system and I found that all the

Dell BIOS ( was Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening)

2017-01-16 Thread Martin McCormick
ook it up to a monitor and have someone like my kind and patient wife or, before I retired, a coworker change the boot sequence order from floppy-C:-CDROM to CDROM-floppy-C: or CDROM-C:-floppy which prevents the hard drive from grabbing the boot sequence each time. Of course you can make the h

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread Gene Heskett
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Just curious if you looked at the 'ufiformat' command. > > -- john No John, I haven't, not having seen that word on screen before. And since I've better ways of doing that for the last 3 or 4 years, called Drivewire, which is far more capable than

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread John Darrah
On 1/15/2017 3:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And any drive thats 10 years old & maybe even some newer ones are desperately in need of being pulled out, and any covers that are blocking good access to the carriage drive screw, need to be uncovered for a serious cleaning with alcohol or even acetone

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread Gene Heskett
discussion group postings, I learned that there is a > companion to setfdprm which is getfdprm. I put in a good and > formatted floppy and ran getfdprm on a 1.44 Mb disk. The > application produced > > DS HD sect=18 > > This occurs after you have spun the disk to mount it or done > anything el

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread Brian
and a floppy which works today ivery likely not to do so next month. -- Brian.

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread Doug
is getfdprm. I put in a good and formatted floppy and ran getfdprm on a 1.44 Mb disk. The application produced DS HD sect=18 This occurs after you have spun the disk to mount it or done anything else to make the disk turn for reading. If you eject the diskette, the value stored in setfdprm

Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening Solved.

2017-01-15 Thread Martin McCormick
every day, is not intuitive and can cause hours of prodding and head-scratching/banging. In my searching via Google and reading some of the articles and discussion group postings, I learned that there is a companion to setfdprm which is getfdprm. I put in a good and formatted floppy and ran

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
first to support the AMD Phenom quad core chips, has an fdc that is > unhappy with a 256 byte sector size, and will crash/lock this machine, > so bad that it takes the long push on the power button, doing a Are you sure this isn't a kernel driver issue? The Linux floppy drive

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 15 January 2017 09:17:45 Martin McCormick wrote: > Mirko Parthey <mirko.part...@web.de> writes: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 03:32:08PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > > > What happened after I zapped the floppy is that fdformat will not > > > run becau

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Jan 2017 at 15:32:08 -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > The fdformat utility allows one to low-level format a > floppy disk. I need to convince an older PC that it should boot > from one of it's usb ports and the Plop Project has a boot > manager that fits on a

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 12:45:54PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: [...] > Interestingly enough, I don't seem to have either setfdprm(8) or > setfdprm itself in my amd64 Debian Jessie system, so I can't check this > for you. /etc/mediaprm

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Martin McCormick wrote: >The generic floppy devices, /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1, will fail to work >with fdformat when a non-standard format is being used, or if the for- >mat has not been autodetected earlier. In this case, use s

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-15 Thread Martin McCormick
Mirko Parthey <mirko.part...@web.de> writes: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 03:32:08PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > > What happened after I zapped the floppy is that fdformat will not > > run because it sees no pre-existing format information. > > > > What am

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-14 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 03:32:08PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > What happened after I zapped the floppy is that fdformat will not > run because it sees no pre-existing format information. > > What am I forgetting or what has changed? According to the fdformat man page, you

Re: Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Martin McCormick wrote: > then decided to start from scratch after it didn't work so I used > a bulk tape eraser and completely erased the disk which is ... > What happened after I zapped the floppy is that fdformat will not > run because it sees no pre-exi

Low Level Format of 1.4 Mb Floppy Isn't Happening

2017-01-14 Thread Martin McCormick
The fdformat utility allows one to low-level format a floppy disk. I need to convince an older PC that it should boot from one of it's usb ports and the Plop Project has a boot manager that fits on a 1.4Mb floppy. It is called plpbt.iso so I got a 1.4Mb disk and copied the boot manager

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 17 Dec 2015 at 21:55:48 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 18:56 +, Brian wrote: > > I don't think any of the solutions do help you to write to a raw > > device, whether it be a floppy or a USB stick. Writing a Debian ISO > > to USB is not u

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-17 Thread Brian
On Thu 17 Dec 2015 at 01:04:43 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Sven Arvidsson <s...@whiz.se> wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 22:09 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > >> Believe it or not, but I still have a floppy disk drive in my >

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-17 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 18:56 +, Brian wrote: > I don't think any of the solutions do help you to write to a raw > device, > whether it be a floppy or a USB stick. Writing a Debian ISO to USB is > not uncommon here and I do not appreciate having to be root to do it. > A > mis

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > Writing ISO to USB could also be done through udisks presumably? A safe method which distinguishes removable media from the fixely installed disks would be of great interest for https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-17 Thread Random832
Sven Arvidsson writes: > dd'ing an image to a raw device does require root. Why? If it's a removable device and not a system filesystem, it wouldn't be unreasonable to give such access to anyone logged in at the console, on the grounds that they could otherwise take the device away

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-17 Thread Sven Arvidsson
a disk image to /dev/fd0, and I'm not sure how the solutions > could help me, but really, it's rare enough that I don't mind > sudoing. > I just thought it was an interesting regression. If sudo becomes a chore you could write a simple udev rule that adds back the floppy group, just to

Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-16 Thread Anders Andersson
Believe it or not, but I still have a floppy disk drive in my workstation, and I have to use it occasionally! I just noticed that my user was not allowed to write to /dev/fd0 even though it belongs to the group "floppy". I found that /dev/fd0 belongs to the group "disk"

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-16 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 12/16/2015 10:09 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: Believe it or not, but I still have a floppy disk drive in my workstation, and I have to use it occasionally! I just noticed that my user was not allowed to write to /dev/fd0 even though it belongs to the group "floppy". I found tha

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 22:09 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > Believe it or not, but I still have a floppy disk drive in my > workstation, and I have to use it occasionally! I just noticed that > my > user was not allowed to write to /dev/fd0 even though it belongs to > the group &q

Re: Incorrect group on /dev/fd0? "disk" vs "floppy"

2015-12-16 Thread Anders Andersson
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Sven Arvidsson <s...@whiz.se> wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 22:09 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: >> Believe it or not, but I still have a floppy disk drive in my >> workstation, and I have to use it occasionally! I just noticed that >>

Re: grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-07-09 Thread dulev
, but it started long floppy seek at the boot, which is sort of annoying, as it's a home PC, switched on every day. I tried looking for solution, but I could not find anything to solve the problem. The floppy seek is off in the BIOS, /etc/default/grub contains GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true

Re: grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-07-09 Thread MRH
. All fine and well, but it started long floppy seek at the boot, which is sort of annoying, as it's a home PC, switched on every day. I tried looking for solution, but I could not find anything to solve the problem. The floppy seek is off in the BIOS, /etc/default/grub contains

Re: grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-07-08 Thread MRH
Just to bump the question (below) - anyone, any ideas, please? On 23/06/13 16:56, MRH wrote: Hi, I have a problem with grub2. Recently (after updating to wheezy) grub has been upgraded to grub2. All fine and well, but it started long floppy seek at the boot, which is sort of annoying

Re: grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-07-08 Thread Thierry Chatelet
The Sunday 23 June 2013 17:56:22, MRH wrote : Hi, Hi, Go to bios and bisable the floppy there, should do the trick. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-07-08 Thread Richard Owlett
MRH wrote: Just to bump the question (below) - anyone, any ideas, please? On 23/06/13 16:56, MRH wrote: Hi, I have a problem with grub2. Recently (after updating to wheezy) grub has been upgraded to grub2. All fine and well, but it started long floppy seek at the boot, which is sort

grub2 floppy seek - how to switch off?

2013-06-23 Thread MRH
Hi, I have a problem with grub2. Recently (after updating to wheezy) grub has been upgraded to grub2. All fine and well, but it started long floppy seek at the boot, which is sort of annoying, as it's a home PC, switched on every day. I tried looking for solution, but I could not find

LINUX on floppy

2013-06-08 Thread alex . padoly
Hi, I have a bugg with fsck and I can't repare the file system of my hard disk. Do you know an LINUX on floppy with a boot to repare my file system. Thanks Regards Alex

Re: LINUX on floppy

2013-06-08 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2013 schrieb alex.pad...@laposte.net: Hi, I have a bugg with fsck and I can't repare the file system of my hard disk. Do you know an LINUX on floppy with a boot to repare my file system. Thanks Regards Alex Hi Alex, try Trinux (google at it) or you can use tomsrtbt

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-29 Thread Camaleón
flexibles con una unidad floppy usb, pero al momento de utilizar dd me da como resultado un mensaje que dice: usuario# dd if=foo1.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync -- usuario# dd: abriendo «/dev/fd0»: Sistema de ficheros de sólo lectura

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-28 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 28/04/13 02:55, Ricardo Mendoza escribió: Ok, solucionado el asunto. Bien, me has contestado, tanto a la lista/grupo, como al privado. Así que, te remito contestar al grupo/lista (estoy como ya dije, con GMane). Bien. Ahora si, has de dar la

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-28 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:44:16 -0500, Ricardo Mendoza escribió: (ese html...) Saludos,estoy intentando copiar unos archivos con formato img a unos discos flexibles con una unidad floppy usb, pero al momento de utilizar dd me da como resultado un mensaje que dice: usuario# dd if=foo1.img

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-28 Thread Ricardo Mendoza
Falsa alarmar, logre hacer un disco con una imagen img utilizando dd, pero hoy al intentar de nuevo hacer mas discos con imagenes img, no puedo,ahora ni se muestran los archivos en discos con datos, la unidad floppy y los discos estan en buenas condiciones,seguire investigando. El día 28 de abril

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-28 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:06:31 -0500 Ricardo Mendoza pgsql...@gmail.com wrote: Yo tengo floppy 3 1/2 originales nada de usb modernas. Y andan en excelente estado. Trata de usar una original de las de antes. Para descartar que esa usb falle o tenga algo. También cabe la posibilidad que este

copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-27 Thread Ricardo Mendoza
Saludos,estoy intentando copiar unos archivos con formato img a unos discos flexibles con una unidad floppy usb, pero al momento de utilizar dd me da como resultado un mensaje que dice: usuario# dd if=foo1.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-27 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:44:16 -0500 Ricardo Mendoza pgsql...@gmail.com wrote: podes intentar de esta manera:. cat foo1.img /dev/fd0 alternativa dd if=foo1.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 Saludos -- BSS Servicio :. $telnet bayresmail.com.ar 2323 MamaLibre Reader :.

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-27 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 28/04/13 00:44, Ricardo Mendoza escribió: (...) Debo desmontar la unidad usb?, cambiar permiso ha fd0? Normalmente para hacer eso, debes hacerlo como root y debes tenerlo desmontado. Así que: dd if=foo.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 Recuerda: Nunca

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-27 Thread Ricardo Mendoza
Ok, solucionado el asunto. El 27 de abril de 2013 18:09, Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 28/04/13 00:44, Ricardo Mendoza escribió: (...) Debo desmontar la unidad usb?, cambiar permiso ha fd0? Normalmente

Re: copiar imagenes img a floppy

2013-04-27 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:55:13 -0500 Ricardo Mendoza pgsql...@gmail.com wrote: Podrías indicarnos como lo solucionaste? Saludos -- BSS Servicio :. $telnet bayresmail.com.ar 2323 MamaLibre Reader :. http://mamalibre.com.ar/reader/ Buscador del Sur :. http://buscar.mamalibre.com.ar/

Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Martin McCormick
in to CMOS setup and reorder the boot sequence and then save. If you only have to do that once per computer, it is tolerable but eventually, this otherwise functional computer won't boot off the CD and we have to do it all over again. I want to declare a truce and put a floppy

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Tom Grace
On 08/11/12 14:13, Martin McCormick wrote: Should this work? Yes, it should be possible. Where are some linear English sentences that de mystify what we can get grub-install to do? I'm not sure about that, but you might have an easier time customizing an existing cdrom chainloading floppy

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 08 November 2012 14:13:56 Martin McCormick wrote: Where are some linear English sentences that de mystify what we can get grub-install to do? +1 Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Martin McCormick
Tom Grace writes: I'm not sure about that, but you might have an easier time customizing an existing cdrom chainloading floppy image. I will look some more because I was more or less leaning that way. I found http://schierlm.users.sourceforge.net/bootdisk/ and you might be able

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Tom H
to do it all over again. I want to declare a truce and put a floppy in that will call the CD. I think this can be done but all the documentation I find is either very narrowly targetted or doesn't explain the why of grub-install well enough to figure out what to do. That is more

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Brian
. Ok, your BIOS is uncooperative. This is almost the same siyuation as having a BIOS which cannot boot a CD/DVD. I want to declare a truce and put a floppy in that will call the CD. I think this can be done but all the documentation I find is either very narrowly targetted or doesn't

Re: Custom Grub-install on a Floppy

2012-11-08 Thread Brian
On Thu 08 Nov 2012 at 10:39:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: grub-install has --no-floppy and --allow-floppy options so installing grub to a floppy should be possible. Neither option really has any bearing on installing GRUB to a floppy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Martin McCormick
Is there any utility that will move the heads on a floppy drive from one stop to the other? I needed to write a floppy on an old system and discovered that the drive's head moving hardware has gotten stiff with disuse. It gets better the more I do something like dd if=/dev/fd0 of=somefile

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 09:51:59AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: Is there any utility that will move the heads on a floppy drive from one stop to the other? I needed to write a floppy on an old system and discovered that the drive's head moving hardware has gotten stiff with disuse

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Martin McCormick
frees up or just gets stuck. I bet it has been over ten years since this drive ever saw a floppy. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211061627

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/6/2012 9:51 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: Is there any utility that will move the heads on a floppy drive from one stop to the other? I needed to write a floppy on an old system and discovered that the drive's head moving hardware has gotten stiff with disuse. It gets better

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Martin McCormick
Stan Hoeppner writes: #!/bin/bash count=0 while [ $count -le 100 ]; do dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/null count=1 skip=1 dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/null count=1 skip=2940 let count=count+1 done Thanks! That appears to be doing the job. Time will tell if it frees it up. Martin -- To

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/6/2012 11:34 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: Stan Hoeppner writes: #!/bin/bash count=0 while [ $count -le 100 ]; do dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/null count=1 skip=1 dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/null count=1 skip=2940 let count=count+1 done Thanks! That appears to be doing the job. Time

Re: Disused Floppy Drive Needs Head Exercise.

2012-11-06 Thread Doug
On 11/06/2012 10:51 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: Is there any utility that will move the heads on a floppy drive from one stop to the other? I needed to write a floppy on an old system and discovered that the drive's head moving hardware has gotten stiff with disuse. It gets better

Floppy disk output errors (was: any ideas?)

2012-06-17 Thread Camaleón
boot sector Cannot initialize 'A:' jude@stmarys:~$ exit exit So you have a floppy disk inserted into the drive and you can't read it. Some questions: 1/ Does it work under windows? 2/ Can you make a raw copy for its content? 3/ How old is it? 4/ What's the output of mdir and mdir a: commands? 5

Re: Floppy disk output errors (was: any ideas?)

2012-06-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
the floppy drive and several others. I'm guessing what may need doing is to copy the configuration mtoolstest generates for the floppy into /etc/mtools.conf on a drive a: section. Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http

Re: Floppy disk output errors (was: any ideas?)

2012-06-17 Thread Camaleón
the full meaning of your words ;-( Script done on Sun 17 Jun 2012 10:45:00 AM EDT That last line is strange since I did not erase /etc/mtools.conf and mtoolstest also reports finding the floppy drive and several others. I'm guessing what may need doing is to copy the configuration mtoolstest

Re: boot floppy to USB

2011-10-25 Thread David Pinson
Le 25/10/2011 17:45, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Bonjour, je recherche un moyen de booter sur une clef USB à partir d'une disquette de 3.5 Hello, Perso, j'utilise bootmanager http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html Linuxement vôtre, David P. slt bernard

Re: boot floppy to USB

2011-10-25 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:36:31 +0200, David Pinson dpt...@free.fr a écrit : Le 25/10/2011 17:45, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Bonjour, je recherche un moyen de booter sur une clef USB à partir d'une disquette de 3.5 Hello, Perso, j'utilise bootmanager

OT - boot floppy (was restoring MBR)

2011-07-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:19:31 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote: Not sure if I am quite in the subject. But in the old Potato days, the installer always asked to stick in a floppy disk to write a new MBR on it. Leaving hard drive untouched. The maintainer scripts for kernel image packages

Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]

2011-07-25 Thread Tomas Kral
polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems. I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules Where in, floppy is set as, ... # PC floppy drives

udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]

2011-07-24 Thread Tomas Kral
--inhibit-polling /dev/fd0 Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems. I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules Where in, floppy is set as, ... # PC floppy

Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]

2011-07-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote: Just finding my way around with udisks. Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0 Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited Floppy

floppy drive in debian stable

2011-06-06 Thread Charlie Derr
is working on his machine except his floppy drive. He has data on floppies (written from an old DOS machine) that he wants to print. As I said, he's done this in the past (prior to this latest upgrade) without trouble. He's now tried multiple different floppy disks. Below is some information

Re: floppy drive in debian stable

2011-06-06 Thread Jochen Schulz
[CC'ed as per request] Charlie Derr: mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist Your friend probably needs to load the 'floppy' module manually. To make the system auto-load it on boot, just add a line containing 'floppy' to /etc/modules. J. -- After the millenium I will shoot to kill

Re^2: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-04-24 Thread peasthope
* From: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net * Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Why not download mtools and then try mdir a:/ and then try man mtools? Even if floppy disks were inserted after booting I've been able to access them using mtools in the past. Thanks I'll

spelling; was Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-04-24 Thread peasthope
* From: peasth...@shaw.ca * Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:56:47 -0800 ... UTF8 ... Correct spelling is UTF-8, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages

Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-04-20 Thread Stephen Powell
2010 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) No, the data is intact, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command

Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-04-15 Thread peasthope
, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command after boot. This really is looking like a bug. I intend

Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-04-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
Why not download mtools and then try mdir a:/ and then try man mtools? Even if floppy disks were inserted after booting I've been able to access them using mtools in the past. On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Bob, Camaleon, Dom, Stephen, Tom others, I am replying to the last

[OT] You want embarrassing? (was [SOLVED] Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze)

2011-03-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:11:49 -0500 (EST), Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/2011 06:49 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... I have found the culprit: it was a bad floppy disk! The media was physically defective and was causing I/O errors. Once I put a good floppy in it, everything worked fine. How

Re: [OT] You want embarrassing? (was [SOLVED] Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze)

2011-03-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stephen Powell put forth on 3/12/2011 8:30 AM: I have to admit that tops my story. But I think I can do better. I once tore up the wall of my living room trying to find an electrical problem, only to discover that the reason that the electrical outlet wouldn't work was that it was a switched

Re: [OT] You want embarrassing? (was [SOLVED] Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze)

2011-03-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:54:02 -0500 (EST), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen Powell put forth on 3/12/2011 8:30 AM: I have to admit that tops my story. But I think I can do better. I once tore up the wall of my living room trying to find an electrical problem, only to discover that the reason that

[SOLVED] Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-02-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:07:27 -0500 (EST), Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 25/02/11 02:32, Stephen Powell wrote: ... Does anyone, anywhere, have a working USB floppy drive under Debian Squeeze? If so, I'd like to know about it, and what you did to get it working. ... Yes. I have a USB floppy

You want embarrassing? (was Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze)

2011-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/25/2011 06:49 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] I have found the culprit: it was a bad floppy disk! The media was physically defective and was causing I/O errors. Once I put a good floppy in it, everything worked fine. How embarrassing! Thanks to all who replied, and sorry

Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-02-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:47:30 -0500 (EST), Wayne Topa wrote: Not having a usb floppy I am just throwing this out there Have you installed the ufiformat package? A search of the package lists only show that (might) be helpful. Thanks for the suggestion, Wayne, but I need to crawl before I

Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze

2011-02-24 Thread Roman Gelfand
floppy I am just throwing this out there Have you installed the  ufiformat package?   A search of the package lists only show that (might) be helpful. Thanks for the suggestion, Wayne, but I need to crawl before I can walk.  Right now, I can't even shove a floppy into the drive without

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