Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 01:40:59 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 08 feb 14, 22:43:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > I'm quite happy to let it go on upgrading itself as it has so far. > > If I mess with it I shall only cause myself problems. The > > developers know way more than I do! > > Installin

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 February 2014 23:40:59 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 08 feb 14, 22:43:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I'm quite happy to let it go on upgrading itself as it has so > > far.  If I mess with it I shall only cause myself problems.  The > > developers know way more than I do! > > Installing n

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 08 feb 14, 22:43:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I'm quite happy to let it go on upgrading itself as it has so far. If > I mess with it I shall only cause myself problems. The developers > know way more than I do! Installing newer kernel packages might actually be safer than upgrading the s

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 February 2014 20:48:14 Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 08 February 2014 12:29:30 Tom H wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz > >> > > > > wrote: > >>> On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: >

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2014 12:29:30 Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz > wrote: >>> On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: AFAIUI, if the package has a different name, as newer releases

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 16:55 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Had I wanted it not to upgrade, would I have needed to search > out the metapackage and remove it? Or hold it, of course. No need to hold the package, removing it should be all that's needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 February 2014 12:29:30 Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: > >> AFAIUI, if the package has a different name, as newer releases > >> of kernels do, then APT won't consider it an update, it

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 13:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 07:48 -0500, Tom H wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:02 +, Joe wrote: > > >> > > >> The risk is about having that happen without noticing. Generally,

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 07:48 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:02 +, Joe wrote: > >> > >> The risk is about having that happen without noticing. Generally, I > >> keep an eye on what sid is updating, but even this long afte

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 13:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 07:29 -0500, Tom H wrote: > > linux-image won't be bumped up to a later kernel version if you don't > > have "linux-image-" installed. > > Let's make a real job of it. > > Metapackage: > http://packages.debian.org/sid/

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:02 +, Joe wrote: >> >> The risk is about having that happen without noticing. Generally, I >> keep an eye on what sid is updating, but even this long after a >> release, it's still tens of megabytes a day. I don't c

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 07:29 -0500, Tom H wrote: > linux-image won't be bumped up to a later kernel version if you don't > have "linux-image-" installed. Let's make a real job of it. Metapackage: http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-amd64 dep: linux-image-3.12-1-amd64 If you don't install

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> AFAIUI, if the package has a different name, as newer releases of >> kernels do, then APT won't consider it an update, it is just >> another package. > > aptitude has just upgrade

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: > AFAIUI, if the package has a different name, as newer releases of > kernels do, then APT won't consider it an update, it is just > another package. aptitude has just upgraded me automatically from 3.10-x bpo to 3.11-x bpo then to 3.12

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:13 +, Joe wrote: > As Chris and others have said elsewhere, one partition is generally OK > on a workstation. You might keep /home on a separate one, to make > reinstallation a little easier if it becomes necessary, but if you're > keeping valuable data in /home, you sh

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 02/08/2014 11:52 AM, Roelof Wobben wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:40:43 +1300 >> From: cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates >> >> On Sat

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:02 +, Joe wrote: > The risk is about having that happen without noticing. Generally, I > keep an eye on what sid is updating, but even this long after a > release, it's still tens of megabytes a day. I don't check all of them I always read all package names before upda

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 09:52:17 + Roelof Wobben wrote: > > > Im not the average newbie and Im running jessie now. > > Can anyone tell me a good partition scheme for a 80G disk so im not > running again in problems. > As Chris and others have said elsewhere, one partition is generally OK on a

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:40:43 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 08:55:50AM +, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:10:09 +1300 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:07:34PM +, Joe wrote: > > > > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g.

RE: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Roelof Wobben
> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:40:43 +1300 > From: cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates > > On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 08:55:50AM +, Joe wrote: >> On Sat, 8 Feb 2014

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:57:51AM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Oke, > > I will do a re-install of my 80G box. > > What will be a good partition scheme for normal desktop use? Did you read my previous post? I'd just give it the whole disk - one partition. Although, you may want a separate hom

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 08:55:50AM +, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:10:09 +1300 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:07:34PM +, Joe wrote: > > > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g. linux-image-amd64. > > > Apt will not normally attempt to replace what

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:10:09 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:07:34PM +, Joe wrote: > > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g. linux-image-amd64. > > Apt will not normally attempt to replace whatever kernel you have > > installed, as it is a bit risky, and as

RE: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Roelof Wobben
> From: rwob...@hotmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: How to block kernel updates > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:37:22 + > > >> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 +000

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 09:19:59PM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. I think that is the wrong solution. Personally, I'd do a reinstall in your position. I'd backup home AND any configuration files yo

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:07:34PM +, Joe wrote: > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g. linux-image-amd64. Apt > will not normally attempt to replace whatever kernel you have > installed, as it is a bit risky, and as you say, needs quite a chunk How is it risky? Anyway, you're forge

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 11:26:37PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 02/07/2014 11:19 PM, Roelof Wobben wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > > of space. > > > > How can I block them ? > > if the problem is disk space why you

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 22:07 +, Joe wrote: > wish me luck when I reboot... You don't need luck. JFTR, additional few bytes will be released after deleting modules in /lib/modules/ resp. after removing dkms entries for removed kernel versions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:37:22 + Roelof Wobben wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 + > > Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates > > From: rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >

RE: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Roelof Wobben
> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 + > Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates > From: rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: >> Hello, >> >>

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 02/07/2014 11:19 PM, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. > > How can I block them ? > > Roelof Hi Roelof, if the problem is disk space why your primary concern i

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Robin
On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. > > How can I block them ? > > Roelof > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Klaus
On 07/02/14 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: Hello, I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack of space. How can I block them ? Roelof One way is to put a particular package version on "hold". See for instance 'man aptitude': r

How to block kernel updates

2014-02-07 Thread Roelof Wobben
Hello, I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack of space. How can I block them ? Roelof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.de