Hi there, Jerônimo.
Long time, no see!
On May 21 2005, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 10:00:54AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote:
> > Indeed. Let alone the typographical quality that you get with (La)TeX
> > and that you don't get with other systems (if LaTeX is properly used,
>
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 10:00:54AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote:
> On May 21 2005, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Thanks but the old clunker's motherboard is not expandable to 256M
> > > :-(
> >
> > Star/Open-Office is not going to be pleasant. TeX, on
On May 21 2005, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Thanks but the old clunker's motherboard is not expandable to 256M
> > :-(
>
> Star/Open-Office is not going to be pleasant. TeX, on the other hand,
> will run like a treat.
Indeed. Let alone the typographica
On Sat 21 May 05, 8:37 AM, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Thanks but the old clunker's motherboard is not expandable to 256M
> > :-(
>
> Star/Open-Office is not going to be pleasant. TeX, on the other hand,
> will run like a treat.
Te
ow heavy
tomcat/java is. C, perl, python are viable.
> >From: Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Debian Users' Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
> >Date: Mon, 9 May
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:21:03PM +, John Moore wrote:
| Thanks. The primary purpose is to study and understand Linux and the
| programming environment. I'd also like to install Apache and Tomcat and do
| some Java programming
For Java work, I recommend using eclipse. You can use eclipse o
learn X with the 64M configuration
or is that going to be too painful?
From: "J. Van Lierde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 10:06:32 -0400
John Moore wrote:
I'm a total
Incoming from Rogério Brito:
>
> And the thing that prevents me fro using blackbbox is, among other things,
> the need for bbkeys. I think that this functionality should (as is done
> with fluxbox) be included in the basic window manager.
And bb's author disagrees. bb was designed to be a fast,
On May 10 2005, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Rogério Brito:
> > P.S.: As you can see, I am willing to experiment with many window
> > managers (but not with Desktop Environments right now).
>
> blackbox, fluxbox, wm2.
>
> The first two have a dock. If blackbox, get bbkeys as well. For any
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 23:44, Lee Braiden wrote:
> Something like icewm along with gkrellm might be your best bet.
Actually, I think I remember that icewm does have basic applets for things
like displaying emails and cpu usage, so if you can learn to live with icewm
alone, that should leave you
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 08:41, Rogério Brito wrote:
> Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
> that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set them to
> "auto-hide".
Something like icewm along with gkrellm might be your best bet. Windowmaker
(
Rogério Brito said:
> Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
> that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set them to
> "auto-hide".
Persinally I use xfce on my Laptop. It's only a PII(?)-667 w/192Mb RAM.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} ps ux | gre
Frank Copeland said:
> If you want to set it up as a desktop system you will be pushing your
> luck. It can be done but you will learn to live with swapping.
A desktop system with a GUI? Sure. A desktop using just the TTYs and
maybe screen? He's golden.
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s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Incoming from Rogério Brito:
| > On May 10 2005, Jon Dowland wrote:
| > > Rogério Brito wrote:
| > >
| > > >Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
| > > >that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set th
Incoming from Rogério Brito:
> On May 10 2005, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > Rogério Brito wrote:
> >
> > >Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
> > >that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set them to
> > >"auto-hide".
>
> P.S.: As you can see,
On May 10 2005, John Moore wrote:
> Thanks. Can I tool around trying to learn X with the 64M configuration
> or is that going to be too painful?
I actually think that you can, but you'd have to use lean graphic
applications.
Well, Linux used to be useable on a 486DX33 that I had with 8MB of RAM
On May 10 2005, Jon Dowland wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
>
> >Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
> >that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set them to
> >"auto-hide".
>
> pwm, ion{1,2,3},
Well, pwm doesn't seem to be an option to me
Thanks. That seems to be the general consensus.
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:50:34 -0400
John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old
> PC.
Thanks. Can I tool around trying to learn X with the 64M configuration or
is that going to be too painful?
From: "J. Van Lierde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 10:06:32 -0400
Rogério Brito wrote:
Could you let me know of other window managers that are "lightweight" and
that at least let me use dock apps. It will be a plus if I can set them to
"auto-hide".
pwm, ion{1,2,3}, fvwm (which really can't be described as any-weight,
since you can configure it to be anything).
On May 09 2005, Jon Dowland wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
> >Indeed, fluxbox is an amazing window manager for those with little
> >resources. Highly recommended, especially if you use it with the
> >"Minimal" style, where gradients etc are not used (which are said to
> >consume some memory).
>
> I
John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old
> PC. It has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation
> documentation I've read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is
> sufficient. Is that right? Thanks.
64MB ought to be enough.
(sorry, cou
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 10:06:32AM -0400, J. Van Lierde wrote:
> John Moore wrote:
>
> >I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old
> >PC. It has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation
> >documentation I've read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is
>
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 11:18:12AM +, John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old PC.
> It has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation documentation I've
> read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is sufficient. Is that
> right? T
Rogério Brito wrote:
Indeed, fluxbox is an amazing window manager for those with little
resources. Highly recommended, especially if you use it with the "Minimal"
style, where gradients etc are not used (which are said to consume some
memory).
I'm certain fluxbox is much more resource-heavy than mo
On May 09 2005, J. Van Lierde wrote:
> If you want to use your mouse, I think you have to pick your window
> manager (a lot of posters seem to like flux box) and apps for their size
Indeed, fluxbox is an amazing window manager for those with little
resources. Highly recommended, especially if you
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 09:50 -0400, J. Van Lierde wrote:
--snip--
> I don't think you'll find Java development on such a system to be very
> rewarding.
I'll definitely second that. And wrt to the OP's initial question, a
machine with 64MB of RAM is not going to run X very well, especially
with any
John Moore wrote:
> Thanks. The primary purpose is to study and understand Linux and the
> programming environment. I'd also like to install Apache and Tomcat and do
> some Java programming (again, just experimental stuff - nothing commercial
> grade). I'll definitely need to run a browser and an
John Moore wrote:
I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old
PC. It has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation
documentation I've read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is
sufficient. Is that right? Thanks.
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Thanks but the old clunker's motherboard is not expandable to 256M :-(
From: Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian Users' Mailing List
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:30:14 +0800
On 5/9/
On 9 May 05 11:18:12 GMT, John Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old PC. It
> has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation documentation I've
> read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is sufficient. Is that right?
d an email
client. The ability to run (Star/Open)Office would be nice.
From: Lee Braiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:20:16 +0100
On Monday 09 May 2005 12:18, John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newb
On 5/9/05, John Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks. The primary purpose is to study and understand Linux and the
> programming environment. I'd also like to install Apache and Tomcat and do
> some Java programming (again, just experimental stuff - nothing commercial
> grade). I'll definitely
lient. The
ability to run (Star/Open)Office would be nice.
From: Lee Braiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is 64MB enough?
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:20:16 +0100
On Monday 09 May 2005 12:18, John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to i
On Monday 09 May 2005 12:18, John Moore wrote:
> I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old PC.
> It has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation documentation I've
> read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is sufficient. Is that
> right? Thanks.
Well, it
I'm a total Linux newbie who'd like to install Linux on my really old PC. It
has 64MB of RAM and a 4GB hard disk. The installation documentation I've
read at debian.org seems to indicate that this is sufficient. Is that right?
Thanks.
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