John Jason Jordan wrote:
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of
bugs. Yes, I know it is called testing for a reason. And I am happy
to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can
use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest
The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu
suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way
of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong.
Debian is what Ubuntu wants to be when it grows up.
(Ubuntu is a mix of Debian testing and
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 6:44 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:
The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu
suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way
of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong.
I need advice.
I
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:54:02 -0800
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org dijo:
John Jason Jordan wrote:
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of
bugs. Yes, I know it is called testing for a reason. And I am happy
to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 03:28:31PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
This was the fourth time I had attempted to install a version of
Debian. In each case I had problems that I was unable to repair. The
first two times with testing I lost the window manager and gnome-panel.
I tried at least a
Dne, 23. 11. 2009 00:44:40 je S. Fishpaste napisal(a):
Someone mentioned the sheer volume of information that is often
available to
the Debian user. I can see how it's intimidating and confusing to the
casual
user as it is to even those of us that consider themselves perhaps a
little
more
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +
Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk wrote:
...
Herewith a couple of quick answers: if need be, can we work up an FAQ
list to be posted here once a month or so in the same way that some very
long-established Usenet lists post multi-part FAQs?
John Jason Jordan wrote:
Today I have two main motivations for going to Debian:
1) It's time to expand my knowledge of Linux, and I have no huge
computer projects underway at the moment.
If it is for academic purposes why sacrifice the stability you have thus
far enjoyed for learning.
John Jason Jordan wrote:
However, several Linux friends have suggested it's time for me to move
on. According to the advice I receive I no longer need the Ubuntu
training wheels and I would be better served by going to a less
newbie-oriented distro.
I am going to take a different
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 02:11:19AM +0100, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:44:47 John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user.
By you own accord you are not a suitable
John Jason Jordan put forth on 11/21/2009 6:57 PM:
There are PDFs and then there are PDFs.
Portable Document Format. Is this in Webster's right next to Oxymoron?
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On Sun,22.Nov.09, 19:01:38, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Herewith a couple of quick answers: if need be, can we work up an FAQ
Something like http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser ? ;)
list to be posted here once a month or so in the same way that some very
long-established Usenet lists
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0200, Andrei Popescu in gmane.linux.debian.user
wrote:
On Sun,22.Nov.09, 19:01:38, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
=20
Herewith a couple of quick answers: if need be, can we work up an FAQ=20
Something like http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser ? ;)
list to be
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +, Andrew M.A. Cater in
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
This question is a Frequently Asked Question [FAQ] - answered elsewhere
in places like the Debian Wiki - but something which comes up fairly
regularly on this list.
Thanks for your work; I've saved it
S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid writes:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +, Andrew M.A. Cater in
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
This question is a Frequently Asked Question [FAQ] - answered elsewhere
in places like the Debian Wiki - but something which comes up fairly
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 04:57:11PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:18:09 +0100
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr dijo:
Dne, 21. 11. 2009 21:10:38 je John Jason Jordan napisal(a):
the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install
(realplayer, xaralx,
John Jason Jordan wrote:
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of
bugs. Yes, I know it is called testing for a reason. And I am happy
to do my part to help fix problems. Yet I need a computer that I can
use for real work. But at the same time I want the latest and
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has
never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I
just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living.
However, several Linux
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has
never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I
just
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity of
bugs.
[...]
But at the same time I want the latest and greatest.
These 2 comments are a contradiction.
Make a decision between those two, and you will have made your decision
regarding whether to switch away from
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:54:18 -0500
Dave Witbrodt dawit...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Having spent just a day in testing I am not happy with the quantity
of bugs.
[...]
But at the same time I want the latest and greatest.
These 2 comments are a contradiction.
Make a decision between those
On 21/11/2009 19:44, John Jason Jordan wrote:
The local Linux friends who thought I should move on from Ubuntu
suggested testing as the closest in the Debian world to the Ubuntu way
of doing things. After today I am thinking they were wrong.
I need advice.
Hiya
For anything else use
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote:
While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy*
To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in terms.
Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must be either or. ;-)
Lisi
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 +
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote:
While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy*
To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in
terms. Something cannot be both nice and flashy - it must
On 20091121_094447, John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has
never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I
just learn enough to fix the problem and
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:47:38 -0600
Chris rac...@makeworld.com dijo:
... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease)
AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all.
Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing
the Op was using Ubu to begin
John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has
never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I
just learn enough to fix the problem and go back to living.
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 09:44 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has
never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I
just learn enough to fix
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:47:38 Chris wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 +
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote:
While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and flashy*
To some of us, well one of me anyway, that is a contradiction in
John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:47:38 -0600
Chris rac...@makeworld.com dijo:
... Redefined... Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is both nice (to use, as in ease)
AND flashy (visually). Not a contradiction at all.
Perhaps I should have taken the time to define that however, knowing
the Op
John Jason Jordan put forth on 11/21/2009 11:44 AM:
I need advice.
If you have never used a bash shell or are not comfortable with it, or
are not comfortable with vi/vim and editing Linux config files with
such, then I suggest you stay far, far away from any Debian
testing/unstable release.
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:00:50 +
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:47:38 Chris wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:41:18 +
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:05:40 Chris wrote:
While Ubu 9.10 (assuming) is *nice and
Dne, 21. 11. 2009 21:10:38 je John Jason Jordan napisal(a):
the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install
(realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty,
Just out of curiosity, as an ex-foxit-user to foxit-user: what does
foxit reader have that other
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:43 +
AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote:
...
reliably and as expected. If you want higher degrees of churn, which
will require you to spend a lot more time under the hood, then try sid
or to be uber cool out-fox your buddies and give sidux a run for its
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:16:33 -0600
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
John Jason Jordan put forth on 11/21/2009 11:44 AM:
I need advice.
If you have never used a bash shell or are not comfortable with it, or
are not comfortable with vi/vim and editing Linux config files with
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:18:09 +0100
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr dijo:
Dne, 21. 11. 2009 21:10:38 je John Jason Jordan napisal(a):
the way I want it. I still have some troublesome apps to install
(realplayer, xaralx, foxit reader), but I had them working on Jaunty,
Just out of
On Saturday 21 November 2009 18:44:47 John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked
inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user.
I don't need to read anymore. You should know that Squeeze is currently not
only Squeeze, but Testing too.
By
Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:48:43 +
AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote:
...
reliably and as expected. If you want higher degrees of churn, which
will require you to spend a lot more time under the hood, then try sid
or to be uber cool out-fox your buddies and give
On Saturday November 21 2009 7:16:51 pm AG wrote:
Celejar wrote:
Curious - why is use of sidux over sid associated with uber-coolness?
Celejar
Primarily because of its integrated scripts that keep the system
updated, its reasonably small user group and its admittedly quite neat
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