Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote: Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote: Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-15 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-15 Thread David Wright
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote: Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel. i too believe that gnome just pulls in way too

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-15 Thread David Wright
Quoting August Karlstrom (fusionf...@gmail.com): On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-15 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:53:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-15 Thread August Karlstrom
On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm instead of exec your-wm None really, except to keep

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread August Karlstrom
On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the reader in. Unmount by unplugging reader with the card

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list entry may mislead you on the page. … You could do better

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (j...@debian.org): On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list entry may

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Apr 2015 at 15:32:47 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk writes: The OP seems to have got something useful out of the thread. I think I'll ask questions about the wiki page for Bluetooth instead. I read carefully all the messages of the thread and appreciated and am grateful to anyone who wrote. I'm still

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it. Thanks. I'm trying it. In the web browser, I open a

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 20:11:30 Brian wrote: On Tue 14 Apr 2015 at 15:32:47 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: … So the

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: Floris kindly found a possible reference which also seemed to me to be a likely candidate (the OP hasn't confirmed or otherwise). I looked at it with a critical eye and found some errors and

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote: [I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i'll second the use of openbox. i use it

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Seeker
On 4/13/2015 4:59 AM, Floris wrote: and I agree that the sentence You have to install all end-user applications later is incorrect. Even Iceweasel is a dependency of gnome-core. I didn't know that Mozilla is a part of gnome. Floris Epiphany is the Gnome web browser, apparently the Gnome

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote: Floris kindly found a possible reference which also seemed to me to be a likely candidate (the OP hasn't confirmed or otherwise). I looked at it with a critical eye and found some errors and ambiguities. However, I'm not a Gnome

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread August Karlstrom
On 2015-04-13 07:20, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: [I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): According to documentations, gnome-core package is

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Floris
Op Mon, 13 Apr 2015 18:33:20 +0200 schreef Steve McIntyre 93...@debian.org: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote: So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org. I understood

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread David Wright
Quoting Steve McIntyre (93...@debian.org): On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote: So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org. I understood they are the wiki maintainers. Not

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote: So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org. I understood they are the wiki maintainers. Not in terms of content, no. That's up to the whole

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread Floris
Op Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:28:29 +0200 schreef David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Quoting Floris (jkflo...@dds.nl): Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): According to documentations, gnome-core

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com): On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel. i too believe that gnome just

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-13 Thread David Wright
Quoting Floris (jkflo...@dds.nl): Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Alexis
bri...@aracnet.com writes: the most inconvenient thing about not using gnome is not having a way to handle USS mass storage devices. Perhaps pmount or autofs might be of use ? Alexis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread briand
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little

Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal gnome installation. Then I noticed that totem,

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Joe
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:19:35 + Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Seeker
On 4/12/2015 11:19 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/12/2015 02:19 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal