Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread lee
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 07:53:14PM -0400, H.S. wrote: H.S. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread lee
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:30:31PM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:42:59PM -0500, lee wrote: Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: In any case, it would be nice to have a working KDE without having to run a mysql server. Is there a way to do that? That depends on how you define working KDE. The KDE metapackage depends on packages that depend on mysql-server. Most KDE packages do not depend on mysql-server.

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread John Hasler
Quit worrying about Gnome and KDE and desktop environments. Just install the packages you want. A panel that has a clock and can show a calender when you click on the clock? That was the most useful thing of the panel ... or maybe just a clock like that? There are lots of clocks and

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090521183512.gb7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:06:03PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread lee
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:10:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Quit worrying about Gnome and KDE and desktop environments. Just install the packages you want. A panel that has a clock and can show a calender when you click on the clock? That was the most useful thing of the panel ... or

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread AG
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521183512.gb7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: Yes, I removed them and now KDE is broken. I even tried to get just konqueror back to use as a web browser, but that doesn't work without the mysql-server :( That's simply not true. I've

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread H.S.
AG wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521183512.gb7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: Yes, I removed them and now KDE is broken. I even tried to get just konqueror back to use as a web browser, but that doesn't work without the mysql-server :( That's simply not

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread John Hasler
AG writes: Trying to remove mysql wants to remove the entire KDE collection... It results in the removal of those KDE packages that depend on mysql and therefor of the KDE metapackage. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread AG
H.S. wrote: AG wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521183512.gb7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: Yes, I removed them and now KDE is broken. I even tried to get just konqueror back to use as a web browser, but that doesn't work without the mysql-server :(

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread H.S.
AG wrote: Thanks H.S. Good advice and can dispense with those suggested components of KDE without any regret. Couple of quickies: (1) How would I track down the guilty metapackage? hmm .. good question. I do it the hard way, but the apt gurus here may be able to tell you how to it the

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 17:32 +0100, AG wrote: H.S. wrote: AG wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521183512.gb7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: Yes, I removed them and now KDE is broken. I even tried to get just konqueror back to

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-22 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
H.S. schreef: AG wrote: Thanks H.S. Good advice and can dispense with those suggested components of KDE without any regret. Couple of quickies: (1) How would I track down the guilty metapackage? ooking (e.g. gnome-desktop-environment), I check those packages with: $ apt-cache show

KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread lee
Hi! Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the mysql-server anyway. Will that be fixed? When kdm starts, it says there's no greeting widget

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the mysql-server anyway. Then don't install those applications. Problem solved.

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread lee
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:06:03PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread H.S.
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the mysql-server anyway. Then don't install

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,21.May.09, 15:00:12, H.S. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread lee
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 03:00:12PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:42:59PM -0500, lee wrote: Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the mysql-server anyway. I've had problems

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: PIM, konqueror and some others ... I don't see that konqueror depends on mysql-server. It depends on libqt4-sql-mysql, but that's just a driver library. kdepim does depend on it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-21 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote: I refuse to run a mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the mysql-server anyway. Then don't

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