<> Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-12-10 Thread mark
On Monday, November 26, 2018 9:37:21 AM EST Mark Neidorff wrote: > > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail > service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think > that really matters. > > If you know of an e-mail serv

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-12-07 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Dec 2018 at 10:08:35 (+), Joe wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 23:05:24 -0500 Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 + Ben Oliver wrote: > > > On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote: > > > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 Mark Neidorff > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >... > >

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-12-07 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 23:05:24 -0500 Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 + > Ben Oliver wrote: > > > On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote: > > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 > > >Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > > > >... > > > > > >> Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-12-06 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 + Ben Oliver wrote: > On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote: > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 > >Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > >... > > > >> Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old > > > >Limited storage? Who - big or small

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-30 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 09:13:33AM +0100, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > > À quoi bon s'arracher les cheveux à monter un > > service de mail sur son serveur dans le seul but qu'il passe la main à un > > autre qu'il faudrait louer ? > > Le pb de Basile était d'envoyer les ma

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-30 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 30/11/18 à 01:05, "Ph. Gras" a écrit : > À quoi bon s'arracher les cheveux à monter un > service de mail sur son serveur dans le seul but qu'il passe la main à un > autre qu'il faudrait louer ? Le pb de Basile était d'envoyer les mails locaux d'une machine vers l'extéri

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-30 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
c'est probablement le smtp (ou le serveur imap, mais c'est rarement le cas car en général c'est systématique et on s'en aperçoit vite). > Il y aussi autre chose: à 60 ans -dans quelques mois-, administrer un > service mail ne m'amuse plus (et le mél est devenu plus compliqué > qu'avant)

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Pierre L.
tre chose: à 60 ans -dans quelques mois-, administrer un > service mail ne m'amuse plus (et le mél est devenu plus compliqué > qu'avant). Mais c'est vrai qu'à 30 ans j'avais trouvé passionante la > configuration d'un service sendmail. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 11/30/18 2:50 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 11/30/18 1:05 AM, Ph. Gras wrote: Salut la liste, tirant parti du fait que nous sommes vendredi, j'en profite pour poser une question saugrenue. À quoi bon s'arracher les cheveux à monter un service de mail sur son serveur dans le seul

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 11/30/18 1:05 AM, Ph. Gras wrote: Salut la liste, tirant parti du fait que nous sommes vendredi, j'en profite pour poser une question saugrenue. À quoi bon s'arracher les cheveux à monter un service de mail sur son serveur dans le seul but qu'il passe la main à un autre qu'il faudrait louer

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Ph. Gras
Salut la liste, >> Quel MTA (mail transfer agent) me conseillez vous? Un exim4? Ou bien un >> nullmailer suffit? > > Ce n'est pas en continuant de faire ce que l'on connait > que l'on pourra faire ce que l'on ne connait pas. > tirant parti du fait que nous sommes ven

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread yamo'
erveur VPS n'est *pas* un serveur mail, au sens MX du DNS (Je loue > des boites méls chez Gandi pour ça). Il ne devrait donc pas recevoir de > connexion SMTP. Le MX de starynkevitch.net est bien Il y a ssmtp qui est pratique pour ton cas. Il utilise un vrai serveur smtp mais qui n'a pas for

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 29/11/18 à 18:35, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > Quel MTA (mail transfer agent) me conseillez vous? Un exim4? Ou bien un > nullmailer suffit? nullmailer c'est juste un truc qui forward sur un smtp distant ? Dans ce cas j'éviterais car ça gère pas de queue, donc si une alerte impo

Re: serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Yves Rutschle
xim de Debian fait de base avec le fichier /etc/aliases, qui a un format où ça donnerait: basliexx: bas...@starynkevitch.net [...] > Quel MTA (mail transfer agent) me conseillez vous? Un exim4? Ou bien un > nullmailer suffit? Le problème qu'ils resolvent est différent: Exim saura contacte

serveur de mail minimal (MTA) : nullmailer (ou exim4)?

2018-11-29 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Bonjour Je réinitialise mon VPS ovh.starynkevitch.net serveur (de web) chez OVH pour le domaine starynkevitch.net J'ai une petite quantité de user sur ce VPS. Par exemple basilexx et jeanyy et mariezz Ce serveur VPS n'est *pas* un serveur mail, au sens MX du DNS (Je loue des boites méls

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2018-11-26 hackte Brian in die Tasten: > On Mon 26 Nov 2018 at 09:37:21 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote: > gmail and yahoo. :) He asked for a "friendly" EMail Service not a crappy free one Depending on his traffic, he could get an account under my domain which support IMAP/SMTP plus

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 November 2018 09:49:22 John Hasler wrote: [...] > You've reinvented parts of Mailagent and Exim. With something I am familiar with and doesn't need a 200 page help file. Similar to skinning cats, first make sure its truly dead. ;-) -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread Celejar
their documents by email now. > > Still, a few hundred MB usually does it for the fortnight, and the > longer absence over the new year is an email drought, so size would be > similar. > > Those who leave read mail on the ISP's mailhost, due to accessing from > multiple client hosts, are

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > No for everything that clamav gives a clean bill of health, it tells > kmail to go get the mail when a mailfile in /var/mail is closed after > procmail writes it there. Kmail looks at the headers and if spamd said > it was spam, sorts it to the spam folder. procmai

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 November 2018 08:41:32 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 26, 2018 09:51:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I even wrote a script to couple kmail so the incoming mail only > > exists few a few milliseconds in /var/mail. > > I don't understand -- what

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, November 26, 2018 09:51:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > I even wrote a script to couple kmail so the incoming mail only exists > few a few milliseconds in /var/mail. I don't understand -- what is your script doing? Is it doing it only for spam? > I'm a lazy cuss, let the

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-27 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 Mark Neidorff wrote: ... Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old Limited storage? Who - big or small player - offers unlimited storage for old emails? My suggestion [0] (a 'small'

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
c., mostly issue their documents by email now. > > Still, a few hundred MB usually does it for the fortnight, and the > longer absence over the new year is an email drought, so size would be > similar. > > Those who leave read mail on the ISP's mailhost, due to accessing from > multi

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Erik Christiansen
size would be similar. Those who leave read mail on the ISP's mailhost, due to accessing from multiple client hosts, are at greater risk of exceeding their quota, and would naturally look for some extra, I figure. Erik

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Celejar
I like to download and > process the email locally using either kmail or thunderbird (doesn't matter > which to me. I have experience with both.) > > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP connections, > would you please post it in a reply. My impression is that pr

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
elist all the mailing lists I an on. > > Here, down under, that's the norm - I've never heard of an ISP which > so despises the 'S' that there's no mail. We generally have a choice > of IMAP or POP3. (I have fetchmail set to use the latter.) > > > Other than that, it ju

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread John Hasler
debian-user writes: > Here, down under, that's the norm - I've never heard of an ISP which > so despises the 'S' that there's no mail. We generally have a choice > of IMAP or POP3. (I have fetchmail set to use the latter.) They just about always offer email service but it can be p

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Erik Christiansen
ver heard of an ISP which so despises the 'S' that there's no mail. We generally have a choice of IMAP or POP3. (I have fetchmail set to use the latter.) > Other than that, it just works, and I'm only getting perhaps .01% of the > spam I was getting thru a qmail server I used previously as an

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
static IP and my own domain for > > nearly 15 years. I set up a mailserver which has run without > > missing a beat in all that time. > > > > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own > > e-mail service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS,

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Joe
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 10:40:33 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > Are you hanging on to your domain name(s)? Many domain hosts also > > offer limited email facilities, which is no problem if you're > > downloading regularly. > > Any decent registry will for

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > Are you hanging on to your domain name(s)? Many domain hosts also > offer limited email facilities, which is no problem if you're > downloading regularly. Any decent registry will forward mail addressed to your domain to the address you specify. I have Gandi forward mail

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread John Cunningham
I second Fastmail. Tuffmail is also worth a look. On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:23 AM John Hasler wrote: > Mark writes: > > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP > connections, > > would you please post it in a reply. > > Newsguy.com > > I've

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:55:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-11-26 at 09:37, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP > > connections, would you please post it in a reply. > > I use Fastmail, which supported

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread John Hasler
Mark writes: > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP connections, > would you please post it in a reply. Newsguy.com I've been using them for more than ten years with no problems. They have spam filtering which you can turn off. They also have a Webmail int

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Brian
rver which has run without missing a beat in all > that > time. > > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail > service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think > that > really matters. > > Now, I don't like t

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Joe
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 Mark Neidorff wrote: > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP > connections, would you please post it in a reply. > I thought that even the big boys allowed POP or IMAP downloading, I'm pretty sure you can do it with gmail, i

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread The Wanderer
without missing > a beat in all that time. > > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own > e-mail service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I > don't think that really matters. > > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited s

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-11-26 09:37:21, Mark Neidorff wrote: If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP connections would you please post it in a reply. I recommend and use https://www.migadu.com/ They do have a webmail but they focus mainly on providing a simple email service. They have

Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-11-26 Thread Mark Neidorff
the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think that really matters. Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old emails that the big players (gmail, yahoo,etc) use. I like to download and process

Re: transfert de service mail: sauvegarder mon vieux Inbox

2018-11-26 Thread Ph. Gras
Salut Basile, > Même pas, thunderbird a été capable de les transférer en une fois, "en > arrière plan". Ton MUA (thunderbird) affiche les messages que tu as importé via POP3, et ton client imap (Roundcube) affiche les messages via IMAP. Cela signifie que tes messages sont toujours stockés sur

Re: transfert de service mail: sauvegarder mon vieux Inbox

2018-11-25 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 11/25/18 4:02 PM, hamster wrote: Le 25/11/2018 à 15:57, hamster a écrit : Le 25/11/2018 à 15:49, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : (mon MUA personel favori est actuellement thunderbird) Et ben la voila la solution. Thunderbird te permet très bien de télécharger des messages. Tu a

Re: transfert de service mail: sauvegarder mon vieux Inbox

2018-11-25 Thread hamster
Le 25/11/2018 à 15:57, hamster a écrit : > Le 25/11/2018 à 15:49, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : >> (mon MUA personel favori est actuellement thunderbird) > Et ben la voila la solution. Thunderbird te permet très bien de > télécharger des messages. > > Tu a probablement déjà un compte en IMAP dans

Re: transfert de service mail: sauvegarder mon vieux Inbox

2018-11-25 Thread hamster
Le 25/11/2018 à 15:49, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > (mon MUA personel favori est actuellement thunderbird) Et ben la voila la solution. Thunderbird te permet très bien de télécharger des messages. Tu a probablement déjà un compte en IMAP dans ton thunderbird pour relever les messages sur ce

transfert de service mail: sauvegarder mon vieux Inbox

2018-11-25 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
bonsoir à tous, Je possède le domaine DNS starynkevitch.net, le registrar est Gandi. Je loue chez OVH un VPS en IP 46.105.17.220 (ovh.starynkevitch.net) Jusqu'à présent, j'avais configuré ce VPS pour servir aussi le mél (SMTP, POP, IMAP) en utilisant roundcube Mais j'en ai marre de

Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender al mail del Narcis Garcia

2018-11-03 Thread Joan
Narcís, he rebut aquest error des del teu servidor de correu ;-) Joan Cervan El Sat, 3 Nov 2018 12:28:50 +0100 (CET) mailer-dae...@marti.calbasi.net (Mail Delivery System) va escriure: > This is the mail system at host marti.calbasi.net. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that you

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-09-19 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? None. Free email services are wholly inadequate for professional uses like

RE: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-09-19 Thread Edwin Pers
-Original Message- From: Francesco Porro Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:12 PM To: Debian Users Subject: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists >Now, i'm using a free account on yahoo, as you can see, but I get some of >email bounces and moreover spam f

Re: trouble by new install of claws mail

2018-09-14 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:50:04 +0200, arne wrote: >The message: > >"Your Claws Mail configuration is from a newer version than the version >which you are currently using." > >Claws Mail is right. > >I did copy Claws settings from debian testing to a new system on

Re: trouble by new install of claws mail

2018-09-13 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:50:04 +0200, arne wrote: >The message: > >"Your Claws Mail configuration is from a newer version than the version >which you are currently using." > >Claws Mail is right. > >I did copy Claws settings from debian testing to a new system on

trouble by new install of claws mail

2018-09-13 Thread arne
The message: "Your Claws Mail configuration is from a newer version than the version which you are currently using." Claws Mail is right. I did copy Claws settings from debian testing to a new system on stable. I do not want to loose my settings. Claws seems to work OK but the messa

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-10 Thread Pierre L.
Ce sera de façon régulière, il faut voir ca comme une sauvegarde préventive ;) C'est pour ca, le coup du paramétrage de TP sur Maildir, puis une synchro type rsync devrait faire l'affaire. Enfin, si problème il y a (suppression du contenu coté serveur, ou erreur de ma part...), l'addon pour

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-10 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 08/09/2018 à 09:59, Pierre L. a écrit : J'imagine qu'en cas de crash, exemple: le serveur a supprimé tous les mails! il sera possible par un copier-coller de restaurer depuis le dossier de sauvegarde les fichiers mails -> dossier imap dans TB... aussi simplement ? Euh non, helas, absolument

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-10 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 08/09/2018 à 16:59, didier gaumet a écrit : je ne suis pas sûr de bien comprendre ce que tu veux mais cet article du Bonjour, souhaites-tu le faire une fois ou de facon reguliere? -- Cordialement, Stephane Ascoet

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le 09/09/2018 à 09:18, Pierre L. a écrit : > Merci Didier pour ce lien. > > Effectivement c'est bien en ayant en tête le concept de ce qu'est > l'IMAP, que je recherche un outil pour copier/sauvegarder le contenu des > mails qui se trouve sur le serveur mail. > > Car en im

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-09 Thread Pierre L.
Merci Didier pour ce lien. Effectivement c'est bien en ayant en tête le concept de ce qu'est l'IMAP, que je recherche un outil pour copier/sauvegarder le contenu des mails qui se trouve sur le serveur mail. Car en imaginant : - tout de suite maintenant, tu as tes mails stockés sur le serveur les

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-08 Thread didier gaumet
je ne suis pas sûr de bien comprendre ce que tu veux mais cet article du support Mozilla pour Thunderbird pourrait t'intéresser (introduction au protocole et paramétrage associé): https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/le-protocole-imap

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-08 Thread Pierre L.
t;mailbox", car on n'a pas tous les messages stockés sous nos yeux, et facilement récupérables en cas de misère quelconque... Avec ca, j'imagine qu'il est tout à fait possible de double-cliquer sur le fichier du mail stocké, et l'ouvrir simplement pour visionner son contenu ? A vérifier, c'

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-07 Thread G2PC
gt; déconnecté au moment de la sauvegarde. > > En plus, je passerai, si ce n'est pas déjà fait du format mailbox au > format maildir. Avec un fichier par mail, au lieu d'un unique fichier > pour tous les mails, cela permet de faire des sauvegardes > incrémentales rapides. Thunde

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-07 Thread fab
pas déjà fait du format mailbox au format maildir. Avec un fichier par mail, au lieu d'un unique fichier pour tous les mails, cela permet de faire des sauvegardes incrémentales rapides. f.

Re: Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-07 Thread dethegeek
Bonjour, Le vendredi 07 septembre 2018 à 08:10 +0200, Pierre L. a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Utilisant Thunderbird pour de la messagerie sur différentes adresses > mails, je recherche à pouvoir "sauvegarder" le contenu complet d'un > compte mail auquel on se connecte vi

Thunderbird, synchro/sauvegarde boite mail complète

2018-09-07 Thread Pierre L.
Bonjour, Utilisant Thunderbird pour de la messagerie sur différentes adresses mails, je recherche à pouvoir "sauvegarder" le contenu complet d'un compte mail auquel on se connecte via IMAP, donc si les mails sont supprimés coté serveur, à priori Thunderbird les supprimera aussi c

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 11:26:31 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. > > With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
..] > > > > > > We get what we pay for [...] > > > > > > This is also true, but on this side of the pond, the inet service > > > I pay 40 USD a month for, is expected to supply the mail server > > > free [...] > > > > If your connectiv

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:34:37AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. > > Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is > a decentralized way to

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is a decentralized way to do it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward mail to your domain to any address you specify. There needn't be any server of an

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:48:27AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > > people fighting to change

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
o true, but on this side of the pond, the inet service I pay > > 40 USD a month for, is expected to supply the mail server free [...] > > If your connectivity provider treats you well, this is a fine option. > I have my current connectivity provider in relatively low esteem (that

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If your connectivity provider treats you well, this is a fine option. > I have my current connectivity provider in relatively low esteem (that > might change), so I wouldn't like to entrust them with something as > (hopefully) permanent as my mail address. Regis

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > people fighting to change that, mind you). It's not "the sad reality of today's society". It's reality, period. What they do consumes

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Il 29/08/2018 10:34, to...@tuxteam.de ha scritto: > My recommendation over here in Germany (which should be as accessible > to you as an Italian, but perhaps there are equivalent Italian offers, > which I'd tend to support, were I you) > > - posteo.de > - mailbox.org > > Each of them cost

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Thank you for all your precious advices and considerations, expecially for privacy-releaded concerns. Indeed, I'm very well aware of this aspects, but perhaps you're missing my point: the mailbox will be used *only* for mailing lists, which content is (usually) of public domain, on the web. So

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:24:36 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I use Brave browser mostly with handy shields option. >Some of these media sites have like 80 trackers and wotnot which is >just daft. Agreed, but that's something else. "I don't care..." blocks EU required _warnings_ about

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 12:09, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close >on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings on most sites. If the warning /isn't/

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? Perhaps relevant in this

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
ay > 40 USD a month for, is expected to supply the mail server free [...] If your connectivity provider treats you well, this is a fine option. I have my current connectivity provider in relatively low esteem (that might change), so I wouldn't like to entrust them with something as (hopefully)

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:05:21AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: > >On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > >>But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? > > > >Maybe, maybe not, but you can

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
ase to exist if everyone > took the "cheap way out". > > Cheers > -- tomás This is also true, but on this side of the pond, the inet service I pay 40 USD a month for, is expected to supply the mail server free, in this case a copy of dovecot which has a pop3 portal too and i

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. I'm a bit fed up with that stupid

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 09:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed out

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-28 17:12, Francesco Porro wrote: Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? <> I'm not knowledge enough to have my own email server advertising its presence or host my own

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Ben Finney
Francesco Porro writes: > Sorry, I forgot to mention that I dont't want to run a mail server by > myself. > > Only *free* mail services, please. In that case, I recommend against all such services. The cost of running a mail server that anyone can join for no fee, practica

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2018 schrieb Dominic Knight: > > > have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the > > > spam > > > folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. > > > I've > > That's the fault of your email client or methodology, rather than GMX. >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Dominic Knight
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 21:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:23:46 +0200 > Stefan Krusche wrote: > > Hello Stefan, > > > have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the > > spam > > folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. > > I've >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
on or policy of treating free mail accounts, I think. Cheers!

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:23:46 +0200 Stefan Krusche wrote: Hello Stefan, >have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the spam >folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. I've Is it not possible to whitelist the addresses? >recently started to think

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Dienstag, 28. August 2018 schrieb Francesco Porro: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? > > I mean, somethihng that has a good Imap server, good enough to be > accessed by a

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Mark Rousell
web-based forum interface. It's open source, with hosting > available - from a small group in New Zealand. It has a bit of > traction in the "electronic democracy" community. If I understand correctly, I think that Francesco was asking for a good (free) email service provider at w

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
ailing lists? I cannot personally recommend any free, proprietary email service providers. Instead I'd say that running your own mail server would be best for this, assuming you have some kind of always-on connection with a static IP you can utilise. Although incoming spam is a potential probl

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Francesco Porro
Il 28/08/2018 18:25, Mark Rousell ha scritto: > Instead I'd say that running your own mail server would be best for this Sorry, I forgot to mention that I dont't want to run a mail server by myself. Il 28/08/2018 18:39, John Hasler ha scritto: > I can personally recommend a paid email s

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread John Hasler
Francesco Porro wrote: > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? Mark writes: > I cannot personally recommend any free, proprietary email service > providers. I can personally recommend a

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Mark Rousell
tead I'd say that running your own mail server would be best for this, assuming you have some kind of always-on connection with a static IP you can utilise. Although incoming spam is a potential problem the real difficulties with running your own mail server in my opinion are (a) maintaining de

[OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Francesco Porro
Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? I mean, somethihng that has a good Imap server, good enough to be accessed by a MUA like Thunderbird without issues, and good spam filter which

Re: Mail delivery system

2018-08-21 Thread Mariusz Ptaķ
Witam i ja serdecznie, nie bardzo wiem co jest powiązane z twoją skrzynką. Pozdrawiam :) Dnia 21 sierpnia 2018 23:25:15 CEST, Szymon Salewski napisał(a): >Witam serdecznie. Mam mały problem gdyż jest to powiązane z moja >skrzynka gmail. >Z poważaniem Salewski Szymon > >Wysłane z iPhone'a

Mail delivery system

2018-08-21 Thread Szymon Salewski
Witam serdecznie. Mam mały problem gdyż jest to powiązane z moja skrzynka gmail. Z poważaniem Salewski Szymon Wysłane z iPhone'a

Re: Claws-mail "Get mail" opens full-page

2018-07-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:29:02 -0500 ntrfug wrote: > I've been using claws-mail since well before it was claws-mail (back > in the sylpheed days). > > When I checked for new mail or opened dialogs they opened in > the reduced size I specified, and this size was preserved

Claws-mail "Get mail" opens full-page

2018-07-03 Thread ntrfug
I've been using claws-mail since well before it was claws-mail (back in the sylpheed days). When I checked for new mail or opened dialogs they opened in the reduced size I specified, and this size was preserved when I exited the program. I upgraded to stretch a couple of months ago

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