Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:30:41AM +0100, Lisi wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:36:43PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 16 oct 12, 14:00:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: $ aptitude search ~Astable | wc -l 43004 $ aptitude search ~Astable~scontrib | wc -l 271 $ aptitude search ~Astable~snon-free | wc -l 583 Oups, 'stable' will also

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-17 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 16 oct 12, 08:01:59, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search

Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian (Squeeze?) 1. in main 2. in main, contrib and

Re: Number of Debian packages available. ERRATUM

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:30:41 Lisi wrote: Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian (Squeeze?) 1. in main 2. in main, contrib and non-free many, not may :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Titanus Eramius
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:30:41 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Brian
On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 11:30:41 +0100, Lisi wrote: I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
This can be answered (by a developer) using UDD - http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase The answer today is udd= select count(*),release from public.packages group by release; count | release +-- 2 | wheezy-security 272170 |

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:46:01PM +0200, Titanus Eramius wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:30:41 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 11:30:41, Lisi wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Grace
On 16/10/12 11:30, Lisi wrote: Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian (Squeeze?) From doing: for i in main contrib non-free; do echo $i:; curl -s ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/$i/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 | bunzip2 -c | grep Package: | sort -u | wc

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 11:56:34, Jon Dowland wrote: This can be answered (by a developer) using UDD - http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase The answer today is udd= select count(*),release from public.packages group by release; count | release

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:46:01 Titanus Eramius wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:30:41 +0100 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all! I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:55:55 Brian wrote: On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 11:30:41 +0100, Lisi wrote: I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different ways. Approximately, in round

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 14:00:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: $ aptitude search ~Astable | wc -l 43004 $ aptitude search ~Astable~scontrib | wc -l 271 $ aptitude search ~Astable~snon-free | wc -l 583 Oups, 'stable' will also match 'unstable', so the correct search (also excluding non-Debian sources)

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free' should give you the answers you seek, however, I seem to get 0 for the first and only 626 for

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:01:59AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free' should give you the answers you

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:01:59AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Brian
On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 12:06:17 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:55:55 Brian wrote: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to have only the line deb your_mirror squeeze non-free Then apt-get update and look at the output. Add contrib to the line above and

Re: Number of Debian packages available. and thank you to everyone.

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 13:59:21 Brian wrote: On Tue 16 Oct 2012 at 12:06:17 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:55:55 Brian wrote: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to have only the line deb your_mirror squeeze non-free Then apt-get update and

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:59:21 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Without the faffing about with getting a root prompt and using an editor: cat /var/lib/dpkg/available | grep '^Section:' | wc -l cat /var/lib/dpkg/available | grep '^Section: non-free' | wc -l cat

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
FWIW tons of packages doesn't mean tons of apps etc., since of the strange policy to split some packages in an insane way, e.g. the jackd packages are split really insane. Or does any package depend to libjack without jackd? And if so, why? There often is the argument that shared libs will keep a

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 08:01:59, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: According to my reading of the manual: aptitude search '~smain' and aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free' should give you the answers you seek,

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 17:34:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: FWIW tons of packages doesn't mean tons of apps etc., since of the strange policy to split some packages in an insane way, e.g. the jackd packages are split really insane. Or does any package depend to libjack without jackd? And if so, why? Why

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 18:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 16 oct 12, 17:34:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: FWIW tons of packages doesn't mean tons of apps etc., since of the strange policy to split some packages in an insane way, e.g. the jackd packages are split really insane. Or does any

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 18:44:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Why should every application *capable* of outputting to jackd force one to install jackd? Jackd could be a suggested dependency, if you don't use jackd, why should the app link against the lib? The app should link against it, as soon as

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 20:10 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 16 oct 12, 18:44:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Why should every application *capable* of outputting to jackd force one to install jackd? Jackd could be a suggested dependency, if you don't use jackd, why should the app

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 19:22:22, Ralf Mardorf wrote: No, compiling shouldn't be needed. This is a discussion we very often had on jack mailing list, when split packages failed. I don't know why an app should crash, as long as it doesn't try to access the missing lib. It might crash, I don't know,